I'm really excited to see how they plan to modernize the SS lineup.
The Ultralight was a welcome addition a couple years back, and I hope to see an Ultralight with a MilQuad reticle or even an Ultralight LPVO added to the offerings.
Rifle Scopes SWFA Teasing Announcement?
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I'm really excited to see how they plan to modernize the SS lineup.
The Ultralight was a welcome addition a couple years back, and I hope to see an Ultralight with a MilQuad reticle or even an Ultralight LPVO added to the offerings.
Hopefully this is just a teaser, and they didn't continue to use tall skinny 5 MIL turrets with no zero-stop again... But it's not looking good, based on that outline... 
Pretty sure it's same turrets but with a zero stop added.Hopefully this is just a teaser, and they didn't continue to use tall skinny 5 MIL turrets with no zero-stop again... But it's not looking good, based on that outline...
Ilya showed a the Mil Quad with an added tree in the 10x he reviewed.
Wow, all that time, and that’s the best they can figure out? Bet the price is twice the old ones, too.
Hopefully us MOA brothas will get some love with a tree reticle too….
Why would the they ruin the 10x with a tree reticle smh. Put it on the tactical 5x20 if you have to but not the fixed or 3-9 or 3-15 scopes plz
Adding some up grades to an already fairly popular scope. Seems like a good low cost idea. I am not a fan of Christmas tree reticles. Exept where they never get put. In a lightweight hunting scope with capped turrets. I am interested to see what else they did.
I was not expecting much change in the fixed powers. It would have required all new chassis and parts.
I was not expecting much change in the fixed powers. It would have required all new chassis and parts.
Both original Mil-Quad and the new tree version will be available. The turrets are taller than I like, but they do have zerostop now which is a welcome addition. They are are multiple models and configurations coming up.
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How much longer are they going to drag this out though? First it was coming 2024, then it was summer 2024 and all we got was a sort of teaser pic, no model information let alone inventory. They could at least release some model information and details.
I’m probably not the only one who was excited to see what they were coming down the pipeline with and would have been a buyer to now not even interested in any of it because they seem like a company that could easily not even be in business in a year.
Same, I feel like upgraded models have been coming for a decade, not just earlier this year. Surprised they didn’t just disappear altogether.
If they can manage a durable fixed 10x with zero stop, locking or capped windage turret, 10-15 mil tree (ideally a skinnyish tree, not some monstrosity) reticle with the same thick outer posts as the OG mil-quad, and glass quality that doesn't fall apart at dusk, all without radically altering price point, then they will probably sell decently to the crowd that already knows who SWFA is. Hopefully, the launch of their new line includes an aggressive marketing campaign targeted at expanding their customer base. I own several fixed SWFA scopes and I like them for what they are. That said, when an SWFA fixed power scope is fighting full-featured variable optics with a lot more curb-appeal at similar price points, the odds don't look great. I wish them well and I'm happy they are updating their line, lots of us have been asking for exactly that for a LONG time.
If they keep building 5 MIL turret scopes, in a world of 10+ MIL turret scopes, they will be... You can only stick to Fudd scopes for so long, before your "new and improved for 2024" was already outdated in 2014...
I could use a tree in the 3-9 on my ARs but at this point I’d settle for just plain mildot and actually available
The market for cheap fixed power scopes only has one player (SWFA) so they can get away with Fudd features.
Yes, but the customer base for fixed-power, fudd-feature optics is literally dying more with every day lol. At some point, there won’t be enough interested parties out there to sustain their business.
I think there is plenty of room in the market for a 300 dollar scope with reliable tracking.
I've taken everything from SWFA with a grain of salt ever since I found out that "HD" in their advertising stands for Heavy Duty rather than High Definition (as you would normally expect it to be when dealing with glass/optics).
How do they ever sell anything when everything is perpetually out of stock?
Hopefully this is just a teaser, and they didn't continue to use tall skinny 5 MIL turrets with no zero-stop again... But it's not looking good, based on that outline...
Yeah that's gay
Well, maybe SWFA will drop one at SHOT 2034...
I'm quite surprised that they're still in business.
Hopefully they'll get on the 10 mil turret bandwagon.
Hopefully they'll get on the 10 mil turret bandwagon.
I see (well, used to back when they had any relevancy) just as many threads about swfa shitting the bed as any other scope.
I have not seen the second generation of that scope. I had the first on my PCP air rifle for a while. It was not bad 250. I always tended to lean toward the 10x for the swfa. I shoot under 10x quite a bit if I have a variable.
There’s been plenty of examples over the years of them shitting out and it’s almost always the same failure across the fixed powers and the 3-15 where the reticle comes loose. I personally have never had a SWFA fail but I know plenty of people who have. Pretty sure there’s a current thread on your precious kokslide about another one just doing it that all the fanboys were ignoring as they always do when an issue with an SWFA comes up over there. “BuT mUh DrOp TeSt”.
Was really wishing for an illuminated dot on my 6X SS the other evening. Oh well, either way, that pig ain’t coming back to my salt lick for a while (near dark, black pig, moving target).
Otherwise, 5mil turrets and the MQ reticle really don’t bother me on a .223. A zero stop is pretty easy on them with a hose washer.
I could probably cure the obnoxious windage turret with a hacksaw and file, just haven’t bothered.
For $299, it’s a lot of scope. Just wish it had a dot. For shooting pigs 60 yards and in, I need to yank it off and just put a dot on it….
Curious what the new ones will offer (if they ever arrive), but the next rifle will likely get a Helos 2-12.
Otherwise, 5mil turrets and the MQ reticle really don’t bother me on a .223. A zero stop is pretty easy on them with a hose washer.
I could probably cure the obnoxious windage turret with a hacksaw and file, just haven’t bothered.
For $299, it’s a lot of scope. Just wish it had a dot. For shooting pigs 60 yards and in, I need to yank it off and just put a dot on it….
Curious what the new ones will offer (if they ever arrive), but the next rifle will likely get a Helos 2-12.
Any update on these?
Hornady just dropped their full 2025 new products which includes new cartridges, ammo, and bullet lines but these scopes which were “coming 2024” and then slated for summer has delivered nothing but a fuzzy marketing picture of a new turret. No model information, inventory, pricing, nothing.
Hornady just dropped their full 2025 new products which includes new cartridges, ammo, and bullet lines but these scopes which were “coming 2024” and then slated for summer has delivered nothing but a fuzzy marketing picture of a new turret. No model information, inventory, pricing, nothing.
You aren't lying, from what I can see they gave it capped turrets, a zero stop and some revised markings, while making it look cheap as hell. In a world where Arken exists what were they thinking?
Meanwhile over on Rokslide guys will be jizzing their pants.
Yeah.....that's gonna be a no for me dawg....
I'd definitely buy another Arken over the SS.
I'd definitely buy another Arken over the SS.
Wow those are some cheap lookin 15yr old Chinese scopes!!!
Oof... I had been holding out on buying any optics in hopes for something more substantially modern from SWFA.
The only thing that I am happy to see is the new reticle, but they don't even have it listed on their reticle page. It's only in the header image, but it's not mentioned in the list of reticles down below...
The Brown ARES ETR scopes from EuroOptic at $750 are looking *really nice* right about now...
The only thing that I am happy to see is the new reticle, but they don't even have it listed on their reticle page. It's only in the header image, but it's not mentioned in the list of reticles down below...
The Brown ARES ETR scopes from EuroOptic at $750 are looking *really nice* right about now...
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Damn, the only real new value add feature is a zero stop. Has two sets of turrets (capped or uncapped) and some new cosmetic markings on the turrets. Other than that, same reticle choices and the ancient 5 MIL per turn turret values. I was expecting more, especially compared to their competitors feature sets.
And as all ready mentioned, the new Mil quad christmas tree reticle is featured on an advertising banner on the website but not available in any of their scopes………very irritating.
I used to be a pretty big fan of their scopes, but have moved on to Nightforce , Trijicon, Vortex Razor and the Athlon Cronos lines the past seven years. Their $300 fixed power magnification line is still a good buy for the robustness they offer, but I was really wanting more from the 3-15, or a 3-18 model to be offered, and no HD offerings, wth? Very sad, but now I can move on knowing I am not missing out.
And as all ready mentioned, the new Mil quad christmas tree reticle is featured on an advertising banner on the website but not available in any of their scopes………very irritating.
I used to be a pretty big fan of their scopes, but have moved on to Nightforce , Trijicon, Vortex Razor and the Athlon Cronos lines the past seven years. Their $300 fixed power magnification line is still a good buy for the robustness they offer, but I was really wanting more from the 3-15, or a 3-18 model to be offered, and no HD offerings, wth? Very sad, but now I can move on knowing I am not missing out.
