Trump Warns He Will Take Back the Panama Canal Unless They Stop ‘Ripping Off’ America and Start Countering China’s Influence.

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Trump Warns He Will Take Back the Panama Canal Unless They Stop 'Ripping Off' America and Start Countering China's Influence | The Gateway Pundit | by Ben Kew

Donald Trump has warned that he could seize back the Panama Canal unless they agree to lower its costs and counter Chinese influence.
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Donald Trump has warned that the United States could seize back the Panama Canal unless the country agrees to lower its costs and counter Chinese influence.
In a post on Truth Social, the incoming president urged the Panamanian government to start taking care of the canal or face the consequences.
He wrote:
The United States has a vested interest in the secure, efficient, and reliable operation of the Panama Canal, and that was always understood. We would and will NEVER let it fall into the wrong hands! It was not given for the benefit of others, but merely as a token of cooperation with us and Panama.
If the principles, both moral and legal, of this magnanimous gesture of giving are not followed, then we will demand that the Panama Canal be returned to us, in full, and without question. To the Officials of Panama, please be guided accordingly!
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Trump later followed up with another post explaining its role preserving America’s economic and national security:
The Panama Canal is considered a VITAL National Asset for the United States, due to its critical role to America’s Economy and National Security. A secure Panama Canal is crucial for U.S. Commerce, and rapid deployment of the Navy, from the Atlantic to the Pacific, and drastically cuts shipping times to U.S. ports.
The United States is the Number One user of the Canal, with over 70 percent of all transits heading to, or from, U.S. ports. Considered one of the Wonders of the Modern World, the Panama Canal opened for business 110 years ago, and was built at HUGE cost to the United States in lives and treasure – 38,000 American men died from infected mosquitos in the jungles during construction.
Teddy Roosevelt was President of the United States at the time of its building, and understood the strength of Naval Power and Trade. When President Jimmy Carter foolishly gave it away, for One Dollar, during his term in Office, it was solely for Panama to manage, not China, or anyone else.
It was likewise not given for Panama to charge the United States, its Navy, and corporations, doing business within our Country, exorbitant prices and rates of passage. Our Navy and Commerce have been treated in a very unfair and injudicious way.
The fees being charged by Panama are ridiculous, especially knowing the extraordinary generosity that has been bestowed to Panama by the U.S. This complete “rip-off” of our Country will immediately stop….
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Panamanian officials have yet to respond to Trump’s warning, although it will be taken extremely seriously given the outsized role in plays in the country’s economy.
During his first term in office, Trump met with former Panamanian President Juan Carlos Varela where he mentioned America’s involvement in the canal’s construction.
“The Panama Canal is doing quite well,” Trump remarked during the meeting. “I think we did a good job building it, right?”
“Yeah. One hundred years ago,” said Valera, to which Trump responded: “We did a very good job.”
 
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Aftermath said:
Really?
How important to US trade is the Panama Canal?
It's not very important at all. That is why J Carter bequeathed the thing away.
Fuck'em....if they don't want to play nice, fuck up all of the locks or destroy it far beyond easy repair.
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Why do you think we built it ?

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Aftermath said:
Really?
How important to US trade is the Panama Canal?
It's not very important at all. That is why J Carter bequeathed the thing away.
Fuck'em....if they don't want to play nice, fuck up all of the locks or destroy it far beyond easy repair.
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Why the Panama Canal is so important to Trump

The Panama Canal, a marvel of engineering and a critical artery of global trade, has once again become the center of geopolitical tension.
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Darayavaus said:
time for a spontaneous color revolution in Panama.

or is one that actually BENEFITS the USA out of the question?
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Well, we already full on invaded and replaced the government in Panama once recently.
I'm guessing Trump would just be the kind of guy to send in the military to do it again and worry about the legality of it later on if ever...
 
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Upon turnover of the canal to Panama, The U.S. and Panama signed a Neutrality Treaty. That treaty essentially guarantees permanent neutrality of the canal and fair access for all nations. It also states that only Panama can operate the canal or maintain military installations in Panama. More importantly, it provides the U.S. with the right to exert military force in defense of the Panama Canal or its neutrality. That said, the Chicoms have been subverting the neutrality agreement by performing a fair degree of construction work and taking over entire islands in Panama under the guise of being commercial enterprises. Don’t forget we move a lot of military traffic through the canal and they are gathering up intel and building capabilities. This is all directly part of China’s BR Initiative, and Panama knows exactly what they are doing. My guess is so does the new CiNC and he’s putting them on notice.
 
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BurtG said:
Why do you think we built it ?
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918v said:
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Why the Panama Canal is so important to Trump

The Panama Canal, a marvel of engineering and a critical artery of global trade, has once again become the center of geopolitical tension.
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When that canal was built, ships were MUCH smaller. The canal has had to be rebuilt and remodeled at least once that I am aware of to make it larger in an effort to remain viable for actual ship traffic. I'm pretty sure that more tons of goods are carried across the isthmus via truck and train than by ship. The US could easily do that within the border of the US...of course, at greater costs due to the US wages and all...but aren't we trying to dramatically and strategically reduce our reliance on cheap foreign labor and goods?

The canal is more important for IMPORTING goods to the USA than EXPORTING. Aren't we wanting to dramatically and strategically decrease our reliance on imports?

Further, let's say we do take it over...what are the maintenance and operational costs? Who picks up that tab? The consumer (already doing that) or the taxpayer? Aren't we wanting to reduce the amount of wasted US tax dollars?
 
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Aftermath said:
Further, let's say we do take it over...what are the maintenance and operational costs? Who picks up that tab? The consumer (already doing that) or the taxpayer? Aren't we wanting to reduce the amount of wasted US tax dollars?
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Roads and bridges and furthering commerce is one of the only things .gov is supposed to be doing
 
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Aftermath said:
at greater costs due to the US wages and all...but aren't we trying to dramatically and strategically reduce our reliance on cheap foreign labor and goods?
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BurtG said:
Roads and bridges and furthering commerce is one of the only things .gov is supposed to be doing
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Why did you cut out the part about making American jobs and increasing US labor participation?
 
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I’m sick and tired of people pising away American assets and achievements. And Our economy needs all the help it can get right now. I don’t see how increasing shipping costs of goods is going to help us. Treaties mean what they say. Just as people are held accountable to laws and agreements here, they need to be held accountable there. And China needs to fuck off.
 
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Agree that China needs to fuck off...BUT...

China isn't the enemy you think.

Americans reinforce Chinese business practices (and discourage internal US growth) by buying cheap goods.

The real problem, as I see it, is the lack of options now.
 
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PatMiles said:
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Trump Warns He Will Take Back the Panama Canal Unless They Stop 'Ripping Off' America and Start Countering China's Influence | The Gateway Pundit | by Ben Kew

Donald Trump has warned that he could seize back the Panama Canal unless they agree to lower its costs and counter Chinese influence.
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Donald Trump has warned that the United States could seize back the Panama Canal unless the country agrees to lower its costs and counter Chinese influence.
In a post on Truth Social, the incoming president urged the Panamanian government to start taking care of the canal or face the consequences.
He wrote:

Trump later followed up with another post explaining its role preserving America’s economic and national security:

Panamanian officials have yet to respond to Trump’s warning, although it will be taken extremely seriously given the outsized role in plays in the country’s economy.
During his first term in office, Trump met with former Panamanian President Juan Carlos Varela where he mentioned America’s involvement in the canal’s construction.
“The Panama Canal is doing quite well,” Trump remarked during the meeting. “I think we did a good job building it, right?”
“Yeah. One hundred years ago,” said Valera, to which Trump responded: “We did a very good job.”
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This is a lot of hot air from Trump. Nobody is going to take back anything in Panama.
 
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lariat said:
This is a lot of hot air from Trump. Nobody is going to take back anything in Panama.
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Most likely correct.

But it is a shot across the bow of the ChiComs that we are not messing around with their meddling in the Americas.

The Monroe Doctrine is and needs to stay the cornerstone of our foreign policy. Stop fucking about in Africa and Asia and third world shitholes.

But this is our hemisphere.

And we need to keep out the Eurotrash and the ChiComs like we are defending Texas!!

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It would appear there is going to be some further discussion of these issues between President Trump and President Mulino.
I suspect there is going to be a bilateral trade agreement opened and renegotiated between the USA and Panama. Perhaps tariffs on Panama goods flowing into the U.S. along with central American financial mechanisms, travel restrictions and potential other aspects coming into play.
In the end of that complicated dynamic, expect to see USA flagged carriers with negotiated special transit costs.
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President Donald Trump and Panama President José Raúl Mulino Spar Over Panama Canal
 
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Panamanian president says "hands off", no indian-giving.

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Panama rejects Trump’s threat to take control of Canal

PANAMA CITY: Panama’s president Jose Raul Mulino on Sunday dismissed recent threats made by US President-elect Donald Trump to retake control of the Panama Canal over complaints of “unfair” treatment of American ships. “Every square meter of the Panama Canal and its adjacent areas belongs to...
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People need to get it in their heads that hyperbole is a key component of Trump's trade negotiations.
 
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sirhrmechanic said:
Most likely correct.

But it is a shot across the bow of the ChiComs that we are not messing around with their meddling in the Americas.

The Monroe Doctrine is and needs to stay the cornerstone of our foreign policy. Stop fucking about in Africa and Asia and third world shitholes.

But this is our hemisphere.

And we need to keep out the Eurotrash and the ChiComs like we are defending Texas!!

Sirhr
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I hate to tell you this, but, nobody outside of Texas has been defending Texas. So, what's this we shit?
 
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Actually, that's not quite right, some states have sent Guard members to assist. It is just ineffective though, when the feds are opening gates in the fences.
 
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Aftermath said:
Definitely. And be financed by the US taxpayer to do so.
Americans will then gleefully buy the less expensive products made off-shore.
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Given the inflation rate, the manufacturing index in the US under pressure, unemployment doing its thing, credit card rates so high and other factors they really have no choice but to make the dollars they have go farther. The consumer is trapped. The only ones who dont want to acknowledge where we are have their head in the sand or have financial reasons to keep the goods flowing in from overseas.
 
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lariat said:
Given the inflation rate, the manufacturing index in the US under pressure, unemployment doing its thing, credit card rates so high and other factors they really have no choice but to make the dollars they have go farther. The consumer is trapped. The only ones who dont want to acknowledge where we are have their head in the sand or have financial reasons to keep the goods flowing in from overseas.
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The American tax payer has been placed in this situation for many decades.
America transitioned from being a manufacturer to a consumer long ago and that is not going to change without some tough love and even then, not in a single POTUS term.
 
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Holliday said:
Invade Mexico. Wipe out cartels, then on to Panama. Everything Panama and North is FAFO, going forward.
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You know instead of like invading and murdering everybody if you just got folks here to stop doing drugs you wouldn't have any problem with the Cartels
Or if you can't do that, then make them legal and have big corporations here make enough the price is not worth any foreign stuff.

But hey why spoil all the "good folks" on here's fantasies of going and invading, slaughtering and conquering other countries.
I guess we can see how the Romans thought about other countries right up until it was their turn to get the same done to them...
 
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Holliday said:
Invade Mexico. Wipe out cartels, then on to Panama. Everything Panama and North is FAFO, going forward.
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You think Ukraine costs money, invade Mexico and Central America. Then it moves to South America. Then we got to go in for nation rebuilding - more stupid costs. At some point the best path forward is to mind out own business and clean our own house.

BRICS has made major inroads into Mexico on down south. They would respond with support at an absolute minimum to protect their investments. The EU wouldn't help, so we would be on our own. The next generation would for what?
 
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lariat said:
You think Ukraine costs money, invade Mexico and Central America.
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You don’t think what’s going on our border, isn’t costing us? If China takes control of the canal, you don’t think that won’t cost us dearly.

I mean how far up our ass do they have to get before
it is about more than money and protecting our god damn homeland!

This lady won’t be with her family for Christmas because an illegal set her on fire while she was napping. When is enough, enough??!!

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anon said:
I hate to tell you this, but, nobody outside of Texas has been defending Texas. So, what's this we shit?
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Well if it were left up to me… I’d turn the first 1000 yards North of the Rio Grande into a free fire zone and sell hunting permits to anyone who wanted to visit…

Screw the wall… set up shooting benches 1100 yards North of the border… every 50 feet from South Padre Island to El Paso. Rent the benches by the day and anything moving between the bench and the river is open season.

Texas is defended. And has the biggest budget surplus in the nation!!!

Oh… Except no shooting cats. They can rule the wasteland!

Sirhr
 
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Holliday said:
You don’t think what’s going on our border, isn’t costing us? If China takes control of the canal, you don’t think that will cost us dearly.

I mean how far up our ass do they have to get before
it is about more than money and protecting our god damn homeland!

This lady won’t be with her family because an illegal set her on fire while napping. When is enough, enough??!!

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China already has some control of the canal. They control a significant portion of the port and have the political backing of the Panamanian government to be there, especially since they have come out against anything that means Panama cannot operate it independently.

The bigger issue is that we simply do not have the resources to carry out a successful Monroe Doctrine, and our adversaries have made allies out of a number of the countries in question. We need to get out DEI and get our war-making inventory back up to snuff. And realize what I said previously - it will be the US vs many other countries.

Your argument about the illegals inside the US falls flat - that dude was already here, invading down south isn't going to stop those here, especially those that are mental and/or have criminal aspirations. And invading those countries isn't going to stop those that are here from doing what they want to do. Stopping those that would come over now would involve putting up the wall and get it secured. We are about to find out if Trump will get it done. Those that are in here need to be dealt with through arrest, imprisonment and deportation; bringing the countries from which they came to heel isn't going to remediate what is ongoing inside the country. First thing we need to do is address the most immediate issues that are within our border.

We aren't invading any country down south in any formal manner for this particular, sole reason. We have enough bullshit going on around the world, and we don't have the armaments to address those issues, as has been repeatedly stated by US officials. What may happen with small teams is anyone's guess.
 
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the day we turned it over, Chinese military was already in place to run it. John Wayne was very critical at the time and stated , some day we would lose American lives taking it back
 
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W54/XM-388 said:
You know instead of like invading and murdering everybody if you just got folks here to stop doing drugs you wouldn't have any problem with the Cartels
Or if you can't do that, then make them legal and have big corporations here make enough the price is not worth any foreign stuff.
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Look, don’t deny them their hard - ons.

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lariat said:
The bigger issue is that we simply do not have the resources to carry out a successful Monroe Doctrine, and our adversaries have made allies out of a number of the countries in question.
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Mmm.

Are you sure you know what you’re referring to?

The “Monroe Doctrine” is a furtherance of our colonization of North America, saying nobody else can come close to this continent.

Look at Uncle Sam waving what appears to be a Freudian representation of his proverbial dick.

t’s an imperialist idea.

This is supposed to be a “good” thing?

Any convenient bible verses in support of this?

Looks pretty ugly, honestly.

As far as them being our “allies” go - they probably just don’t want to have anything to do with our antics, simple as that.

Why put up with the spoiled (American) brat whose only asset was the ball he brought to the playground, when there’s someone else who shares his toys without being a jerk?

I think our sense of “Exceptionalism” blinds us from this.

Holliday said:
You don’t think what’s going on our border, isn’t costing us? If China takes control of the canal, you don’t think that won’t cost us dearly.

I mean how far up our ass do they have to get before
it is about more than money and protecting our god damn homeland!

This lady won’t be with her family for Christmas because an illegal set her on fire while she was napping. When is enough, enough??!!

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Hm.

Seems like violence is hispanic on hispanic, black on black, etc. - though, strictly, one really can’t derive or infer that information from the percentages unless otherwisw stated.

I wonder how many of these Asians / Blacks / Hispanics actually are “Illegals.” /heavy sarcasm (for the obtuse)

Give me a break.
 
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Edsel said:
Seems like violence is hispanic on hispanic, black on black, etc. - though, strictly, one really can’t derive or infer t
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Yeah and looks like whites are twice as likely to be murdered versus murdering


Not gonna say what would make this country a whole lot safer and better
 
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Aftermath said:
Agree that China needs to fuck off...BUT...

China isn't the enemy you think.

Americans reinforce Chinese business practices (and discourage internal US growth) by buying cheap goods.

The real problem, as I see it, is the lack of options now.
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Clearly you don't follow PRC press and CCP statements. They are in the middle of a massive military buildup that has only one goal which is to defeat the US and the West.
 
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BurtG said:
Not gonna say what would make this country a whole lot safer and better
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Aftermath said:
China isn't the enemy you think.
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Also, who can blame them for arming up when America’s wagging its dick through “Freedom of Navigation” and publishing outright that we’re preparing for war with them in 2027? After we”ve been flooding SEA with junk weaponry?

When your next - door toothless, tattooed meth snorting neighbor starts giving you dirty looks because you started getting more prosperous, of course you’re getting a gun.

Well, shoot. Poor analogy. That meth snorter actually drives over from Texas, to where you live up north, to give you dirty looks.
 
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W54/XM-388 said:
You know instead of like invading and murdering everybody if you just got folks here to stop doing drugs you wouldn't have any problem with the Cartels
Or if you can't do that, then make them legal and have big corporations here make enough the price is not worth any foreign stuff.

But hey why spoil all the "good folks" on here's fantasies of going and invading, slaughtering and conquering other countries.
I guess we can see how the Romans thought about other countries right up until it was their turn to get the same done to them...
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Are you aware the cartel's have a hand in everything from the little urchins selling candy on the border, all the way up the the highest echelons of the government there? It would be grossly naive to think they were just involved in drugs.
 
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