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Unless you have access to heirloom seeds you are SOL. And they are not going to produce the quantity of the modified seeds.Everyone gets affected... but the ones who will get affected first and most massively are the ones that rely on aid.
The US can feed itself with one hand tied behind its back. Maybe not as we're used to today. But we have the ability to ramp up agriculture ranging even if it means Victory gardens and local agricuture.
Would it be pleasant? Nope. Would it be fun? Nope. Would swaths of the population get affected? Yes, probably in urban areas most especially.
But we feed the damn world. And in a national emergency, the 'feed the world' would come to a sudden and painful halt (for the rest of the world).
And I agree our state of beef and similar production is scary. Though I don't know why. I certainly see it. Used to go the grocery store and there would be 10-12 feet of beef stacked 3 feet tall in the meat section. Now it's 3 feet. And prices are nuts. And selection is worse than nuts. If there are 10 steaks, it's surprising! Shortage? I don't know. Or is it price up, demand down? So they're not stocking it? I don't know? Is price up because supply is massively short? Or because of general inflation and now people can't afford? So it's not getting stocked... I don't know! But there is a change. Same with other meat, chicken and "real" protein... Is it agribusiness rationing? Are they trying to change us to Eat Zee Bugs? Is it just people who can't afford meat in my AO so the meat is being stocked elsewhere? (we are not a rich state, despite all the rich tourist douch bags... and the trendy butcher in town is loaded with $100 steaks.... so I assume beef out there.) Are we importing less from South America... or competing with China for beef and meat imports? Again... I don't know.
So something is going on. But I can say without being short-sighted or without being xenophobic... that if push comes to shove, North America will feed itself first.
The ones who will starve are the nations that rely on our output. And those nations can't begin to feed themselves. And that includes China. All of Africa. A lot of Russia and the FUSSR. India. The M.E. Even chunks of Western Europe are now incapable of supporting their populations with their domestic agriculture. None of them can feed themselves.
That leaves Canada and the USA as (again) the breadbaskets. Maybe Australia to some extent. Thanks to lots of arable land and a great climate, etc. We may not live like it was pre-2020... It would likely get a lot worse.
But the U.S. can feed itself... short of some massive natural disaster or something that affects our ability to small-scale farm and move food. And that is certainly a possiblity. But not as much of a possibility as watching the third world lose hundreds of million in famines that make biblical famines look like some tummy growls. The fact is that the carrying capacity of much of the world is so out of whack that a massive die-off has been overdue for a while. And without transport and US/Canada exports... the world starves or... other stuff happens.
So will it be starvation? A real pandemic (not a fake one), and malnutrition can trigger a pandemic. Large scale wars over food/water (pretty hard to do in third world where they mostly lack the technology for extermination-level warfare). But it will be somethin If we're lucky, we'll put it off for a few more decades. But it's coming. And the USA will be affected. But betting it's not going to be 1980's Ethiopia or 1990's Somalia... That will be going on in... well... Ethiopia and Somalia.
Sirhr
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Unless you have access to heirloom seeds you are SOL. And they are not going to produce the quantity of the modified seeds.
There's a reason we can feed the world but in the scenario we won't be able to feed the cities in the USA. Commercial farming would not be sustainable
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So you got fields of weed?Anyone who does not have an ammo can or two of “regional” food seeds should take a week off buying more ammo… and put a collection together.
Up here we have High mowing seeds… filthy hippies. But superb seed produce of heirloom stuff from here…. Their seed fields are 30 miles away.
So right with you there on that one!!! Sirhr
So you got fields of weed?
Search on Facebook. Usually see one or two adds a weekDo an online search for ranchers in your area. Where I am there are probably a dozen ranchers who sell direct. They deliver to a butcher, you pick up the finished product.
I'll still occasionally catch a whiff of Love's Babysoft perfume. I think that was what every girl wore back when I was in junior high, and they were more curious and aggressive back then. Something about a scent that takes you right back. This usually happens in a supermarket, and yes, I do walk around a bit to see who's wearing it.
Easy solution - go to or call your local salebarn and ask them who sells to regular consumers. They will know all the players and can give you both advice on who to call and their phone numbers. That is the best starting point.
ETA: there may also be a local butcher who sells beef. That should be a better quality than what you get at the store. And there should be some reviews online to help you with the decision on them.
But the U.S. can feed itself... short of some massive natural disaster or something that affects our ability to small-scale farm and move food. And that is certainly a possiblity. But not as much of a possibility as watching the third world lose hundreds of million in famines that make biblical famines look like some tummy growls. The fact is that the carrying capacity of much of the world is so out of whack that a massive die-off has been overdue for a while.
Sirhr
Looked more like a big ass plant ….plenty of padding. Now more smackShe needs more heroin.
Nuclear war. Conventional war with China with PLA striking here first. A huge volcanic eruption. A phase change in the weather due to solar variation. A meteor strike in a shallow water location…
Senior year I dated a girl who looked like middle bottom row (except long straight hair was the thing in 73). There was a club in Myrtle Beach called Silly’s Magic Carpet, I believe, that didn’t card. She liked Boone’s Farm Strawberry Fields (?). One Saturday night she gets drunker than Cooter Brown. I know I can’t take her home so we ride around until she pukes. Half in, half out of Mom’s Bonneville.
Clean it up the best I can and take her home around four AM. Even walked her to the door. Her dad caught me before I could get the car door open. Read me the riot act and told me to never drive down his street again. I was grateful he didn’t beat my ass around the block. I would have.
Mom was pissed when she came home from church.
I ain’t that old.
Fucking crew chiefs.![]()
Southern Exposure Seed Exchange is also excellentAnyone who does not have an ammo can or two of “regional” food seeds should take a week off buying more ammo… and put a collection together.
Up here we have High mowing seeds… filthy hippies. But superb seed produce of heirloom stuff from here…. Their seed fields are 30 miles away.
So right with you there on that one!!! Sirhr
50 pounds of rice or grits will fit in exactly 13.5 2L soda bottles with a 100cc oxygen absorber and will last indefinitely if kept in reasonable conditions.Nuclear war. Conventional war with China with PLA striking here first. A huge volcanic eruption. A phase change in the weather due to solar variation. A meteor strike in a shallow water location.
Two 50lb bags of Costco rice, 20 lbs of beans, and ten Costco tuna packs and you are set for a year.
Solar flare, pole reversal...…an EMP attack… potentially by an ally.