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This is an obvious but actually a profound statement on that poster. We have always been an agrarian society and always will be. It's a necessary condition of our existence. When you take that fact into consideration and bang it up against the ongoing plight of farmers around the world through regulation, denial of fertilizers and various other initiatives like turning productive fields into migrant housing you wind up at a very dark conclusion about what is about to go down if we do not change course.And .... Ice floats.
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MrSmith
This is an obvious but actually a profound statement on that poster. We have always been an agrarian society and always will be. It's a necessary condition of our existence. When you take that fact into consideration and bang it up against the ongoing plight of farmers around the world through regulation, denial of fertilizers and various other initiatives like turning productive fields into migrant housing you wind up at a very dark conclusion about what is about to go down if we do not change course.
This is easily the most short-sighted conclusion I have read in a while. The issue doesn't affect anyone "first"; everyone is affected. Some will experience it worse than others, but don't think for one second that the West won't have its share of problems associated with this. The farmers and ranchers here can attest to the price of fertilizer, reduced crop yields and lack of food for livestock that came about when the supply chain got tight not too long ago, and we are still feeling the effects of it. This results in more than just high prices, it results in less food. So, we then get corporations that want us to eat bugs, stop farming so they can use the land and therefore choose what to grow (which is suspiciously similar to state planning via corporatism).Well, The countries that will suffer are the ones that sit around on their asses all day waiting for USAID to drop a bag of wheat on their head.
So whatever happens gets felt there first. And won’t be pretty. But since they’ve had 80 years to learn to set up farms, aquaculture, creative agronomy, but instead spent it on AK-47’s and chopping each other‘s arms off because they were from the wrong tribe. I guess they fucking deserve it? The West is dumped trillions into trying to help out people who won’t be helped
Of course, since half of them are trying to take over Fertile western countries they haven’t destroyed yet it’ll get ugly.
Sirhr
And yeah, I know we also fucked them up a lot with proxy wars, and selling them the weapons. But you know what they’ve had 80 years to recognize that in the guns and butter debate it’s probably better to settle for butter.
Have a B&M shifter that is an inline 4.Vertigate shifter….for a 4spd trans.
This is easily the most short-sighted conclusion I have read in a while. The issue doesn't affect anyone "first"; everyone is affected. Some will experience it worse than others, but don't think for one second that the West won't have its share of problems associated with this. The farmers and ranchers here can attest to the price of fertilizer, reduced crop yields and lack of food for livestock that came about when the supply chain got tight not too long ago, and we are still feeling the effects of it. This results in more than just high prices, it results in less food. So, we then get corporations that want us to eat bugs, stop farming so they can use the land and therefore choose what to grow (which is suspiciously similar to state planning via corporatism).
It is a bigger topic than "fuck those guys over there". The people everyone wants to shit on as the rednecks of the world actually keep it going. Wake up.
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Cattle in Texas are going for ridiculous prices. The low herd population says it will be years before we get back to normal. We now have a situation where the prices are so high that some are selling good cows to the stockers as they can pay off bank notes and have a base herd left over while lowering feed costs over winter. It makes business sense, but it makes the problem even worse going forward.A friend of mine owns and runs a restaurant and says that he’s already being told by his suppliers, the prices of beef are going to go through the roof and plan accordingly.
This is easily the most short-sighted conclusion I have read in a while. The issue doesn't affect anyone "first"; everyone is affected. Some will experience it worse than others, but don't think for one second that the West won't have its share of problems associated with this. The farmers and ranchers here can attest to the price of fertilizer, reduced crop yields and lack of food for livestock that came about when the supply chain got tight not too long ago, and we are still feeling the effects of it. This results in more than just high prices, it results in less food. So, we then get corporations that want us to eat bugs, stop farming so they can use the land and therefore choose what to grow (which is suspiciously similar to state planning via corporatism).
It is a bigger topic than "fuck those guys over there". The people everyone wants to shit on as the rednecks of the world actually keep it going. Wake up.
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Easy solution - go to or call your local salebarn and ask them who sells to regular consumers. They will know all the players and can give you both advice on who to call and their phone numbers. That is the best starting point.How to mention, the quality that is appearing at the supermarket level is pretty bad - especially on the parasite level. Does anybody have a link how to hook up to local cattle farmers? My dog and I don't eat much, but we need our red meat!
Easy solution - go to or call your local salebarn and ask them who sells to regular consumers. They will know all the players and can give you both advice on who to call and their phone numbers. That is the best starting point.
ETA: there may also be a local butcher who sells beef. That should be a better quality than what you get at the store. And there should be some reviews online to help you with the decision on them.
Real deal 'indians'
Real deal 'indians'
Forgotten Weapons did a vid on it.somewhere, there's a MGunner frothing at the mouth.
didn't know the browning could kick out 1200. I learned something new.. as well as, someone got a MOH using one of these.
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most of the Stinger's fame comes from its use by Medal of Honor awardee Corporal Tony Stein, who used it during the Battle of Iwo Jima to provide covering fire for his platoon mates.[5] While often attributed as Stein's work, the Stinger was actually the brainchild of two marines, namely Sergeant Milan "Mel" J. Grevich[1] and Private First Class John Lyttle.[2][3]
Stein fought in the Vella Lavella and Bougainville Campaigns, shooting five snipers in a single day during the latter operation.[1] A toolmaker prior to the war, Stein customized a .30 caliber AN/M2 Browning machine gun from a wrecked Navy fighter plane into a highly effective personal machine gun he nicknamed the "Stinger".[3]
M2 Stinger - Wikipedia
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Tony Stein (September 30, 1921 – March 1, 1945) was a United States Marine who posthumously received the U.S. military's highest decoration, the Medal of Honor, for his actions in World War II. He received the award for repeatedly making single-handed assaults against the enemy and for aiding wounded Marines during the initial assault on Iwo Jima on February 19, 1945. He was killed in action ten days later.
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This is easily the most short-sighted conclusion I have read in a while. The issue doesn't affect anyone "first"; everyone is affected. Some will experience it worse than others, but don't think for one second that the West won't have its share of problems associated with this. The farmers and ranchers here can attest to the price of fertilizer, reduced crop yields and lack of food for livestock that came about when the supply chain got tight not too long ago, and we are still feeling the effects of it. This results in more than just high prices, it results in less food. So, we then get corporations that want us to eat bugs, stop farming so they can use the land and therefore choose what to grow (which is suspiciously similar to state planning via corporatism).
It is a bigger topic than "fuck those guys over there". The people everyone wants to shit on as the rednecks of the world actually keep it going. Wake up.
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I beg to differ. Ukraine has shown us that US will feed whatever country offers the largest kickbacks to the politicians first. We will have to fend for ourselves.Everyone gets affected... but the ones who will get affected first and most massively are the ones that rely on aid.
The US can feed itself with one hand tied behind its back. Maybe not as we're used to today. But we have the ability to ramp up agriculture ranging even if it means Victory gardens and local agricuture.
Would it be pleasant? Nope. Would it be fun? Nope. Would swaths of the population get affected? Yes, probably in urban areas most especially.
But we feed the damn world. And in a national emergency, the 'feed the world' would come to a sudden and painful halt (for the rest of the world).
And I agree our state of beef and similar production is scary. Though I don't know why. I certainly see it. Used to go the grocery store and there would be 10-12 feet of beef stacked 3 feet tall in the meat section. Now it's 3 feet. And prices are nuts. And selection is worse than nuts. If there are 10 steaks, it's surprising! Shortage? I don't know. Or is it price up, demand down? So they're not stocking it? I don't know? Is price up because supply is massively short? Or because of general inflation and now people can't afford? So it's not getting stocked... I don't know! But there is a change. Same with other meat, chicken and "real" protein... Is it agribusiness rationing? Are they trying to change us to Eat Zee Bugs? Is it just people who can't afford meat in my AO so the meat is being stocked elsewhere? (we are not a rich state, despite all the rich tourist douch bags... and the trendy butcher in town is loaded with $100 steaks.... so I assume beef out there.) Are we importing less from South America... or competing with China for beef and meat imports? Again... I don't know.
So something is going on. But I can say without being short-sighted or without being xenophobic... that if push comes to shove, North America will feed itself first.
The ones who will starve are the nations that rely on our output. And those nations can't begin to feed themselves. And that includes China. All of Africa. A lot of Russia and the FUSSR. India. The M.E. Even chunks of Western Europe are now incapable of supporting their populations with their domestic agriculture. None of them can feed themselves.
That leaves Canada and the USA as (again) the breadbaskets. Maybe Australia to some extent. Thanks to lots of arable land and a great climate, etc. We may not live like it was pre-2020... It would likely get a lot worse.
But the U.S. can feed itself... short of some massive natural disaster or something that affects our ability to small-scale farm and move food. And that is certainly a possiblity. But not as much of a possibility as watching the third world lose hundreds of million in famines that make biblical famines look like some tummy growls. The fact is that the carrying capacity of much of the world is so out of whack that a massive die-off has been overdue for a while. And without transport and US/Canada exports... the world starves or... other stuff happens.
So will it be starvation? A real pandemic (not a fake one), and malnutrition can trigger a pandemic. Large scale wars over food/water (pretty hard to do in third world where they mostly lack the technology for extermination-level warfare). But it will be somethin If we're lucky, we'll put it off for a few more decades. But it's coming. And the USA will be affected. But betting it's not going to be 1980's Ethiopia or 1990's Somalia... That will be going on in... well... Ethiopia and Somalia.
Sirhr
I beg to differ. Ukraine has shown us that US will feed whatever country offers the largest kickbacks to the politicians first. We will have to fend for ourselves.
Gentris Clark and Lois Fourlane, netflix?...
Do an online search for ranchers in your area. Where I am there are probably a dozen ranchers who sell direct. They deliver to a butcher, you pick up the finished product.How to mention, the quality that is appearing at the supermarket level is pretty bad - especially on the parasite level. Does anybody have a link how to hook up to local cattle farmers? My dog and I don't eat much, but we need our red meat!
I see your in Texas, if you are near Stephenville Tarleton the college has processing setup and you can buy from them. I have a local place I buy from in central Arkansas.Salebarn? The roadside stands of fruit and vegetables? All gone. Yes, I'm just looking for a local butcher.
Slackers!!! All y'all let this pass and not a single one of you gave it a Claven.Interesting side note. The human digestive system does a really good job of digesting corn. All except for that tough exterior skin (pericarp). If you ever see “corn kernels” in poop, what you are actually seeing is the pericarp which has been filled with poop by your digestive system as it all moves along. I suppose there is symbolism in that as well…