Knife fight to the death between a Russian and Ukraine soldier.

#101
Mr.BR said:
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Well the Russian guy seems to be rather down to earth and not all gloating and going on about his upcoming book tour like so many western types.

He seems to not be glorying in it, but just dealing with what happened because men like him have to do the killing and dying for old corrupt men that are in power.
 
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LRShooter101 said:
Great Close Quarters training (both with a knife and pistol), no B.S., very practical and realistic! (just commenting as an attendee).

https://shivworks.com/course-schedule/



If you find yourself in a close quarters fight, you F#@$! UP, because the chances are very good that your fate will be determined by luck, and in a real world life or death battle as shown in the video that started this discussion, it is going to get very ugly!
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5:42 time mark. How is that going to look in court? Push the person down, break away, stand up, back up, and then put three rounds into a helpless person lying on the ground.

Oh, but it was self defense. I felt in fear of my life.

Good luck with your legal issues from that point forward.

It might be fine in war, the context of this thread, but that was some sort of force on force training class in Atlanta, presumably not for folks destined to be shipped to the Ukrainian-Russian front.
 
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I've seen that video before it's real no idea why that guy was off by himself running up on that building with no backup is crazy you don't know whats coming out the door. They must be fighting on a really desperate level in that area.

Jmccracken1214 said:
In a close situation like that, is a $500 dollar fighting knife better than the compact 9mm or 380 that I carry, basically in the same area the knife would be carried?
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LOL

A 10$ regular hunting knife can be just as fatal.
 
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Jmccracken1214 said:
In a close situation like that, is a $500 dollar fighting knife better than the compact 9mm or 380 that I carry, basically in the same area the knife would be carried?
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Brooo!

The fancy knife fetish is an obsession of the moneyed first world :ROFLMAO:

For the “developing countries” that actually use them, a knife is a knife is a knife (except for the moneyed few who adopted said rich boi fetishes).
 
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Jmccracken1214 said:
In a close situation like that, is a $500 dollar fighting knife better than the compact 9mm or 380 that I carry, basically in the same area the knife would be carried?
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No matter the time period, a reasonable sized (3.5" to 4.5" assisted/automatic folder, or 3" to 5" fixed blade) knife will ALWAYS be essential as a last ditch CQB fight ender. The reason: When a fight becomes close contact and survival instincts take over, a properly deployed/drawn knife is an extension of your hand. And instead of using your bare hand to try clawing or otherwise pushing or pulling the assailant's limbs away from you, you will be cutting, severing, and doing biomechanical destruction with every move your hand is making.

A properly deployed knife during a defensive situation is one that the assailant does not even see until they are actually fading away and dying. It is a tool that relies on complete surprise. One second, the assailant has you in a grapple or a hand over your mouth or neck from behind. They seemingly feel your fist thudding weakly against their side, and at first they think nothing of it as it doesn't really hurt. And then they wonder why they are suddenly feeling really lightheaded and disoriented. They let you go, and noticing a sensation of wetness at their side, look downward only to see that their entire abdominal cavity had been carved out by you twisting and then pushing the blade through their innards like you were coring a soft and bruised part out of an apple. Intestines dangling down and everything just seemed to have fallen out. That is when the realization hits them, that they are about to find out what is on the "other side" of the mortal coil...

Like all weapons and tools, mentality and the willingness to absolutely and quickly end a bad situation with them is the first and foremost key to success with actually using that tool. You have to be pragmatic, utterly willing to play in the dirtiest fashion, with only survival in mind.
 
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Edsel said:
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Brooo!

The fancy knife fetish is an obsession of the moneyed first world :ROFLMAO:

For the “developing countries” that actually use them, a knife is a knife is a knife (except for the moneyed few who adopted said rich boi fetishes).
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I always used a toothbrush handle, melted, formed, and sharpened. They don’t cut for schit but they’re hell for punctures.




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Threadcutter308 said:
For me, it's kind of amazing that two human beings would be that committed to killing each other.

Particularly, for what ? The "paycheck" ? That can't be it. "Sense of duty, honor and country" ? Seems to me they're mercs, so that's not likely to be it. Because they were "told to/had orders" ? I suppose so, but who knows ?

I don't get the sense that many of the troops on either side understand that they are nothing more than cannon fodder for the respective MIC's on both sides that are getting very, very rich off this shit show.

Over a million combined military casualties. You'd think more of the ones still left alive would start figuring things out and saying "fuck this noise, I'm outta here". Yeah, I know, it's prison or the firing squad. Nice "choices".

And fuck biden, zelensky, the democrats, rinos and the MIC for being involved neck deep in this atrocity. And, some people wonder why so many people in the rest of the world hate us. As far as I can tell, it isn't without good reason.
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If someone invaded your home, would you not fight to the death?

One of those guys has zero business being in the other’s homeland. He’s literally from a place thousands of miles away from Ukraine far in the East.

Ethnic Russians frequently disparage Yakuts and Chutchkas as lower forms of life than them.

Remember, Burisma was run by Ethnic Russian Zlochevsky when Putin was funneling millions into the Biden family shell companies, not a Ukrainian. Burisma was laundering untold fortunes for other Russian oligarchs, since nobody wants Rubles.

Elena Baturina, the Russian billionaire sex trafficker who sells human beings and pays her boyar fees to Putin, wired $3.5 million to Hunter Biden and Chris Heinz in Feb 2014.

This is why the Biden pardon goes back to Jan 2014, including crimes against the United States.
 
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LRRPF52 said:
If someone invaded your home, would you not fight to the death?

One of those guys has zero business being in the other’s homeland. He’s literally from a place thousands of miles away

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Remember when we kind of spent about 25 years doing the same thing?

Remember when we and our proxies are still doing it now?

Pot, meet Kettle.
 
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W54/XM-388 said:
Remember when we kind of spent about 25 years doing the same thing?

Remember when we and our proxies are still doing it now?

Pot, meet Kettle.
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No, I don’t remember when the US launched an offensive military territorial expansion campaign on one of our neighbors, burning their farmland, leveling their cities, and murdering their people en masse while saying they have no right to live there and aren’t a real people anyway.

I do remember us stepping into a strategic trap Afghanistan, then in the Middle East set by some very clever people, with the Israelis finally getting their wish that we take out Saddam for them, then leaving after making a mess.

It’s a false equivalency on so many levels.

Ukrainians defending their homeland from Putin has zero to do with US responses to 9/11.

Putin had it all planned anyway regardless of whether the US existed or not.
 
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LRRPF52 said:
No, I don’t remember when the US launched an offensive military territorial expansion campaign on one of our neighbors, burning their farmland, leveling their cities, and murdering their people en masse while saying they have no right to live there and aren’t a real people anyway.

I do remember us stepping into a strategic trap Afghanistan, then in the Middle East set by some very clever people, with the Israelis finally getting their wish that we take out Saddam for them, then leaving after making a mess.

It’s a false equivalency on so many levels.

Ukrainians defending their homeland from Putin has zero to do with US responses to 9/11.

Putin had it all planned anyway regardless of whether the US existed or not.
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It's not too late to take Canada . . .
 
#120
louu said:
I can't believe trump didn't run his campaign on how the democrats are laundering money through this and stole billions from the US taxpayers. He should have a team finding out where the money is and have them executed.
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All rah rah aside, neither are doing what transpired in the video for any other reason than, pure survival. When two men have each other by the neck, and neither want to die, either both fight until unable to, one gets the advantage or one breaks away enough to run. Any weakening of commitment, means a much shorter fight. This went on agonizingly long, because each was desperate. And neither gave up until one paralyzed the other with a blow to the eye, with a roofing tile, and took back the knife. All the other knife wounds, occurring in the duration, were merely nuisance leve, until the Russian put the blade into the neck of the Uk. He even explains that.
Neither is fighting for God, Country, apple pie, or a paycheck. They were fighting for their lives.
 
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cas6969 said:
IIRC the tips broke off them as well. Assuming we're talking about the one from the 80's.
(Rambo / Lile inspired lol)
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We are. They had an interesting look but if you want the hollow handle knife go with the old Chris Reeve ones. Made from one solid block of steel.

Lile made some interesting stuff back in the day didn’t he.

Or if you want to have a “survival knife” with a legit function kit the Extrema Ratio Ontos or Selvans are worth a go.
 
#126
cas6969 said:
Two things I longed for and lusted after in high school, a Buck Buckmaster knife and this girl named Trudy. Learning a few years later that it was better that I didn't get either. :giggle:
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Same (except I’ve never known a Trudy).

I did acquire the Buckmaster, but it’s more of a piece in the collection.

In 04 I did order a Chris Reeve knife that I kept on my IBA. It did pretty good and its leather sheath held up surprisingly well in that desert heat. It still has some dust embedded in it from all the dust storms.

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View inside the handle
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