New Sig CROSS

Fuck no, all sig does is release another pig in different lipstick. Look at all of their current sku's and past ones and their new "forever" warranty bullshit that it has to be a "current" production. They keep changing them, use a different shade, etc. peddle more shit and no support past. The only thing I will give them is they know how to play the "market" in which the average consumer is a retard.
 
1.26" American Rifle Co. M-Brace mount.
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1.25 with plenty of room to spare.

Anyone else having issues with their stock hinge? Mine wobbles quite a bit when it's in the "locked" position. Called sig and they said I could send the gun in but...yeah, I don't want to do that. If all of the hinges develop issues then it is what it is but if they're usually solid. I don't mind replacing the hinge on my own.
 
When locked, mine has side to side play.

I don't mind that it isn't super tight when its folded.

I feel like the prior owner probably screwed with the hinge too much and may have put pressure on it when it was in the folded and locked position. The material may be warped.

I'll probably replace it eventually and see if that improves the issue.

I handled my buddies new cross and it was super tight when locked. I just didn't know if they all developed some degree of slop after use. If that was the case I wouldn't bother replacing the hinge.
 
I'm waiting for the new magnum caliber Cross hinge to be released as a part. I prefer the conventional locking design over the standard. The magnum version looks like a direct swap
 

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Just popped up on the Sig website. Sawtooth Short Action. Was keeping my eye out for this one after seeing it win the Factory division at the NRL hunter grand slam this year.

That is sexy but she's pretty much a normal Sig Cross but in green, integrated ARCA, carbon barrel and 20 moa rail.
 
I like the looks of the fore end. About right for an arca off a tripod. I prefer a pic rail for bipod.

Although my sample size of 2 sig crosses both shot sub 1/2moa, the barrel isn't a huge plus. Although getting a cut rifled barrel is a plus I suppose
 
Any reports on how the STX 6.5 shoots?
Just managed (3) 5 shot groups @ .65" - 70" with Berger 140 Hybrids just after a break in session. With a Bushnell 4.5-18 LRHSi. Not exactly a great optic for groups. Wind was all over the place as well. I'm fairly confident I can tighten that up .
 

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The pricing on the Sawtooth Short action will likely be asinine. The addition of a carbon barrel is, at most, only a few hundred dollar adjustment. As long as they keep making these i would expect that a mini-action should come soonish followed by magnum bolt face short actions.
 
Sig HTX is a deal. Has the ARCA fore end that I like, and most of the same features as the STX. But the barrel is 24". Lacks the STX/PRS safety and fat bolt knob. Both of which can be added. Feels like the PRS version without the steel parts and weight. Mine weighs 10.8 lbs with scope.

The price is a smokin' deal: $1399
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Hmmm, I didn’t see the HTX on the Sig website. Not sure I want a 24” barrel on the Cross, but I can always cut it down to 22” ( my preferred 6.5 barrel length for anything other than a dedicated precision rifle). Is the only difference the hand guard & barrel?
 
Hmmm, I didn’t see the HTX on the Sig website. Not sure I want a 24” barrel on the Cross, but I can always cut it down to 22” ( my preferred 6.5 barrel length for anything other than a dedicated precision rifle). Is the only difference the hand guard & barrel?
My bad, I misspelled HXT.

This is where I first heard about the HXT:

https://www.vikingtactics.com/sig-cross-hxt/

The STX has the full length Pic rail on the hand guard. The STX is black, the HXT is grey. The STX has an Sig taper muzzle device, the HXT comes with the ring that allows a normal 90-degree shouldered brake to work on their barrel.

After removing all the loctited fasteners to pull the pic rail off the STX, required to remove the hand guard, required to remove the barrel, im not a fan of the full-length pic rail.

I like the grey better, and I have a TBAC brake on them both to mount a can. I added the PRS safety to the HXT.

For the cost savings, I can add a Proof Cross barrel or a SJArmory barrel. But the barrels have been pretty accurate (for a factory barrel) for me.
 
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Just managed (3) 5 shot groups @ .65" - 70" with Berger 140 Hybrids just after a break in session. With a Bushnell 4.5-18 LRHSi. Not exactly a great optic for groups. Wind was all over the place as well. I'm fairly confident I can tighten that up .

Sig HTX 6.5 Creed

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Sig STX 6.5 Creed

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Same load. 42.8gr H4350. Lapua SRP brass. CCI-450. Hornady 140 ELDM. Factory barrels. Zeiss scopes.

Couple of questions to the guys with the STX's.
1. What velocity are you getting out of the 20" barrels? Trying to see if it is enough to make NRL power factor.
2. Is the muzzle thread tapered like the regular versions? If so does it come with the 90 deg adaptor to run a normal non tapered muzzle brake?


Thanks!
 
Couple of questions to the guys with the STX's.
1. What velocity are you getting out of the 20" barrels? Trying to see if it is enough to make NRL power factor.
2. Is the muzzle thread tapered like the regular versions? If so does it come with the 90 deg adaptor to run a normal non tapered muzzle brake?


Thanks!
20" 6.5CM STX just after 50 round break in.
 

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Couple of questions to the guys with the STX's.
1. What velocity are you getting out of the 20" barrels? Trying to see if it is enough to make NRL power factor.
2. Is the muzzle thread tapered like the regular versions? If so does it come with the 90 deg adaptor to run a normal non tapered muzzle brake?


Thanks!
1. Looks like my STX with a 20” barrel gets 2700 fps with my 140 ELDM load and 2725 with my 130 TGK load. I looked it up, and this load ( 2700 fps x 140grs) in my STX will not make NRL power factor. Of note, the HXT with the 24” barrel does make power factor. 2800fps x 140gr.

2. Yes, barrel has a tapered shoulder. Since the rifle is sold with a tapered three prong flash hider, no muzzle shoulder ring included. The HXT does not come with the flash hider, so it does include a shoulder ring.
 
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1. Looks like my STX with a 20” barrel gets 2700 fps with my 140 ELDM load and 2725 with my 130 TGK load. I looked it up, and this load ( 2700 fps x 140grs) in my STX will not make NRL power factor. Of note, the HXT with the 24” barrel does make power factor. 2800fps x 140gr.

2. Yes, barrel has a tapered shoulder. Since the rifle is sold with a tapered three prong flash hider, no muzzle shoulder ring included. The HXT does not come with the flash hider, so it does include a shoulder ring.
You'd only have to get ~2,585 fps with 147gr though right? That's pretty easily doable with Staball 6.5 or RL-16, even in my 18" Cross, unless you're stuck with factory loads or something like that.
 
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I hope sig brings out a 223 size platform.

Perfect predator rigs.

With Federal’s new powers mixture that Bill G was showing off for great speeds out of short barrels, I think we could see some 223, 6mmArc, 6.5G and others benefit in 16” barrels or less.

The sig cross would be the ideal hunting set up if you didnt want to run a semiauto
 
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You'd only have to get ~2,585 fps with 147gr though right? That's pretty easily doable with Staball 6.5 or RL-16, even in my 18" Cross, unless you're stuck with factory loads or something like that.

Not that I’m an expert, im not, but the velocity x weight must be 380000 or greater. 140s need to go 2715. 147s need to go 2585. You can decide what works best for you. Plus a pad for temperature, variations like es/sd, and the phase of the moon.
 
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Couple of questions to the guys with the STX's.
1. What velocity are you getting out of the 20" barrels? Trying to see if it is enough to make NRL power factor.
2. Is the muzzle thread tapered like the regular versions? If so does it come with the 90 deg adaptor to run a normal non tapered muzzle brake?


Thanks!
If you shoot factory division, power factor not applicable.
 
Are you planning to shoot Factory Division?

If you shoot factory division, power factor not applicable.

Yes! Thankyou - you guys are correct. 18" version it is then! Carry on.

c. There is no minimum Power Factor (PF) for the Factory division, however the Factory Division hunter’s PF will be used in the case of a tiebreaker. Factory rifles chambered in 6mm/.243 or greater, with a cartridge overall length of 2.700″ or greater (per SAAMI-ANSI Max cartridge length standards), with a maximum muzzle velocity of 3275, will be allowed only in the Factory Division.
 
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