You didn’t really think this comment through if your argument is that more acceleration won’t result in velocity.
Think about that for a minute...
The question is not well formulated. Think this through and ask a better question.
I suppose I should have left out the “all other variables” part of my post. All I’m wondering is how velocity compares between 80gr ELD (22 CM) and 80gr ELD-VT (6CM).
And you expect the one that hit it quicker to just flatline its acceleration?
Generally, yes. You can see this play out in the loading data as well. For a wider window of bore size with identical cases, check out data for the .243 win, 260 rem, 7-08 rem, .308 win.
That's because the larger diameter bullet, with all other things being equal will generate a different and higher pressure curve.
There is but one question to be answered and it is a very simple answer without any convoluted and irrelevant wanderings.That depends on the location of the unit measuring velocity.
Is it at speed or at a place before final speed is reached?
Since your question asked for velocity, then it's 80mph. If one was to measure in meters per second, feet per second, furlongs per second or even skittles per second, all of it can be mathed out, knowing the 80mph velocity.
Acceleration rate is a different animal. Look at the cheetah and the pronghorn antelope. Both can reach 50 mph with ease. Their acceleration rates probably differ. Also, the pronghorn can maintain the 50mph for a much longer time.
It's got a much better BC...
Name a few.
Again...not well formulated or maybe you do not understand that 2750 fps with an 80 gr ELD is the same 2750 fps with an 80 gr ELD-VT
I agree his question isn't super clear, but you can see where’s he’s going. You changed his question. His question isnt what will these bullets do at the same speed as one another. Its will a 80 vt in a 6cm be faster than the 80 eld in a 22 cm. A bunch of variables aside, the simple answer is yes. To what degree depends on the variables of course.
Because the Pronghorn is made in Merica damnit and the lazy ass cheetah is african.That depends on the location of the unit measuring velocity.
Is it at speed or at a place before final speed is reached?
Since your question asked for velocity, then it's 80mph. If one was to measure in meters per second, feet per second, furlongs per second or even skittles per second, all of it can be mathed out, knowing the 80mph velocity.
Acceleration rate is a different animal. Look at the cheetah and the pronghorn antelope. Both can reach 50 mph with ease. Their acceleration rates probably differ. Also, the pronghorn can maintain the 50mph for a much longer time.
It's got a much better BC...
Negative. I did NOT change his question to be what either bullet or Pinto or fucking freight train will DO at some given velocity.
You're not following, at all. His question is very simple, and has been stated and restated by me and other posters above.
Negative, it's not simply the bore, as that would include length and twist. His question, as faulty as it is posed, is only concerned with DIAMETER. THAT's it...nothing more.
He’s asking how one variable affects velocity, thats it. He notes bullet diameter. We say bore area in the context of the question. No need to keep saying there are other variables, the OP has already demonstrated he understands there are many other variables.
If you look back, go ahead, go look, I am the one that has repeatedly said there are not other variables.
Go back a read the Op’s question, he’s not asking about the measurement of velocity. How can you have missed this so many times?
End of the barrels is one thing, at the target is another. The OP's question has too many open variables.
The real world works roughly like this.
But the larger bore means more area therefore less pressure as the bullet gets further down the bore.
But that’s not the issue being posed.
According to Hodgdon data, a 308 with the 110 berger flat base will go 3300-3350. A 243 with a 108 eld shows 3000-3050. They both used 24” barrels, various hodgdon powders, and they ran the 243 to a slightly higher pressure on average (~3k psi).
Yep I make bore riders to gain extra velocity here is an example 350 gr bullet in a tiny 338 Spectre case at 1114 fps fired in an AR 15.
The larger diameter offers more surface area against the bore increasing friction losses
And this is why Sabot ammo exsists and how I was able to push a 41gr solid copper projectile down a 9x19 bore at over 2400fps using a FDM printed sabot. (screw you 5.7 you can’t even do that!)
