I'm going to call this the "Official" Glock Appreciation Thread...
- Thread starter LuckyDuck
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People who obsess over cartridges, and handgun cartridges in particular, are almost never good shooters.
They have convinced themselves that the trivial differences in handgun caliber performance will make them more effective. In other words mental masturbation is way easier than being actually good with a handgun.
Change my mind
I only disagree ever so slightly with one statement you made.
Ballistic advancements do make sense at least to me when it comes to rifle calibers since there's really no "maximum" distance that a rifle could be employed at. It's limited by ballistics, physics to some extent and optics.
As you said, there will always be a point where skill and experience trumps the best gear in the damn world. People are making some insane shots with .308 for fucks sake.
Handgun calibers will always be a short range solution so trying to make a .45 ACP into a 220 yard ballistic missile is just dumb.
I've held a couple, never shot a real one though. Put almost 4,000 rounds through my P80 last year, it's Glockish.
I was never a Glock guy, but they've grown on me a bit.
I'm indifferent on the omission of the finger grooves personally. That being said I do understand why some folks find that to be nothing short of fantastic as well. But for me, I've never had a problem with the finger grooves.
That aside, I do not care for (and personally dislike) the ambit-slide locks on the Gen 5. I also do not care for the front slide serrations at all either. Moving on- I'm not a fan of the barrel change (GMB) that was introduced with the G5 and the "lip" for a lack of better words that allows carbon to accumulate.
Glock has changed their finishes quite a bit over the years but the one the G5 brought with it... also not a fan (personally). The "improved" trigger... as far as functional use, I don't see much of a difference but I do understand and appreciate what previous issue they were trying to address with that change.
I "think" Glock may have already changed gears on this particular gripe, but they used to include a half circle type of scallop in the front strap that all but guaranteed your pinky finger would be pinched between the frame and magazine. Oh and they also changed the striker to a more inexpensive design that... well I just don't care for.
The other 'features' introduced with the G5 I (again personally) found 'meh' is the introduction of the orange colored follower of the magazines. Another one was them widening the slide of the 40 cal+ chambered pistols that meant that the previously owned holsters were now 'iffy' on whether they'd fit the G5's.
That all said- I like my Glocks, I really do, but I'm just not smitten with the G5's is all.
-LD
Nah-
No need to. I can appreciate where you're coming from. The problem I have with your opinion on this discussion though is you cannot separate your biases from competition shooting (and this is coming from from someone that's done quite a bit of that in various disciplines such as IDPA, USPSA, GSSF, Steel Challenge, etc).
You likely believe the 9mm is the proverbial "end all, be all". And I'd suspect you'd point towards an argument such as split times or something else related to USPSA shooting. That's fine by the way- but it's also a skewed perspective.
I'm not going to argue that "games will get ya killed", far from that- I participate and also believe that participation in the games sharpens a shooter and makes them far better than they ever would have been had they not went down that road. Heck you might even be a super grand master in one concentration or another- I won't pretend to be anything anything more than I am with a pistol... last I measured I was a high sharpshooter in IDPA and somewhere between a high 'D' and low 'C' in USPSA (so nothing remarkable to speak of).
But these pistol matches are not my sole focus either- more power to the folks that dry fire an hour+ every night and plan their weekends around attending as many matches as they can every weekend. I can admire their dedication (maybe you're among those ranks) but I've just got other stuff to do and I'm more than fine staying 'mid-pack' in the pistol games because I likely have a different goal/mindset then you do.
-LD
ETA: If you want to get into a pissing match about how awesome you are then start a thread in the Pit. We're just talking about Glocks and how cool they are in this thread.
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9mm is awesome. If you want cheap shit, you can get it. Affordable reloadable FMJ in bulk is available, 1,000 rounds for under $250 with free shipping all the time now. Ammo that meets of beats FBI numbers, you have lots of choices. Bullets that shoot straight through a 100+ pound ugly boar hog, yup got that too. And the guns hold more of them.
Now is a good time to shoot a 9mm.
Now is a good time to shoot a 9mm.
Don't get me wrong- your comment (and user name for that matter) all tracks... but this thread is about Glocks. I'm struggling to see how your remark aligns with the topic at hand is all?
-LD
Somewhere in the first 9 posts you said FBI testing, lords caliber and some other stuff.... Just replying to that
And the first Glock was a 17 in 9mm right? Glock was ahead of his time. Who knew plastic guns in 9mm would be all the rage 40 years later.
Ya know- you're absolutely right.
Appreciate you connecting the proverbial 'dots' for me. To your question though- yes the G17 was in 9mm and they were absolutely ahead of their time.
Presently, here in 2025 with the G3 patents having expired, we are seeing some really sweet alternatives.
I wasn't trying to 'call you out' but do appreciate you responding to my question regardless.
-LD
My dismissal of pistol calibers that are not 9X19 has nothing to do with competition.
When did I ever say so? Why do you like putting words in others' mouths?
Perhaps I based my experience from previous comments you freely shared here on the topic in other posts.
But to your point- in this particular thread you didn't mention the comments I alluded to and it wasn't fair of me to throw that at you either.
So in this case- it's egg on my face and you were more than right in calling me out on that. For that I apologize to you.
-LD
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