Also, I noticed that when I quit cigarettes, food really does taste better. Funny thing is I could not handle much hot sauce or spicy stuff but now I can.
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I agree that there is no reason anyone should start smoking. It is one of the nastiest habits you can have. I have been reading a lot about alternative medicines such as peptides and came across a few things about nicotine health benefits including some suppressed studies on intravenous nicotine use.Until you get old. What if Nicotine actually has health benefits?
Do your GoogleFu (potential health benefits of Nicotine) and see what the underground medical community has to say.
Growing up in Southside Virginia in the 50's $1,80 pre carton/ $00.19 a pack.I can get behind that- I still remember buying my 1st carton of smokes after I got out and it was something like $40 at that time and I was absolutely blown away. I said I just bought a carton for less than $30 last week. I also went to Newport, RI for work and asked for 2 packs of whatever and they said something along the lines of "that'll be 20 something or another" and I told them I only asked for 2 packs and they looked at me like I had a 3rd eyeball in my forehead.
I'm at the top of my game thus far income wise (hopefully that momentum will continue) but now a carton of cigarettes is well over $100 and frankly I just can't afford the habit anymore.
Quoting drinking was harder for me than quitting smoking. Smoking I don't miss at all and can't stand being around one who does smoke. Nearly 5 years since I quit drinking and I still miss it. A lot. But I am stronger than any desire to drink anymore. Sorry for your loss those years ago. I can only imagine how much it hurt.......I quit Copenhagen in 1982/83, price was about ¢.35 a can when bought by the roll, it jumped to ¢.50 and I said I quit at ¢.75, sometime around then it did and I quit cold turkey. 2 - 3 cans a days to nothing. Never bothered me, Christmas 2 years later I came upon a single car wreck, it was my fiancé, she died. I crawled in a bottle and didn't crawl out for almost 15yrs. That was hard, alcohol addiction is a bitch, tobacco wasn't to hard for me probably because I hadn't been at it all that long. I have watched plenty of friends struggle with it and I am glad it never got a deep hold on me.
I sincerely don't mean this as a jab towards you but just had to say... your username checks out with that post.I'm an advocate of responsible vaping.
By that I mean age appropriate (old farts) low wattage, low nic levels.
I stay away from commercial "E-Juice", prefilled Pods, Gay Pen vapes .
Vaping will NOT help you if you are not committed.
There will be an initial $ outlay to get started, maybe as much as a new set of reloading dies.
We currently use vapes with a replaceable 18650 battery, variable wattage (capable of 80 watts) at a low 8-10 watts with a Nicotine strength level of 8-10 mg/ml. Some pods are 50mg/ml
One way or another get off SMOKES.
No offense taken by me personally- I think I'm ok with my few times a year of caving into a pack or two. For what it's worth- I'm genuinely happy to hear that your father was successful in quitting, as another poster shared, I'd have to imagine that a good chunk if not the majority of his motivation & why he was successful was for his children.Father had spot on lung..quit cold turkey
Not being a dick..but if he could do it with 2 packs of reds a day..man up and quit
If you don't mind me asking- which pills? I mentioned 2 of which that I'm familiar with/ just was curious if it was one of those two is all.Quit Oct 8 2008. Hardest thing I've done.
Took the pills for a week, weird dreams. After one week I got sick of the pills and dumped them. Figured if I could go a week I'd never touch it again. I do not miss it.
I consider it a feature, not a bug lol. Very intense lucid dreams until tolerance builds up. Mine weren't bad like yours, but I've heard that before.Funny story on this.
I had a friend hand me a partial box of the highest strength quit smoking patches. I dont even remember what the brand was. This was Thursday before the Monday I picked to quit. He said, smoke your brains out, get it all in this weekend, then wake up Monday and put the patch on. He said it helped him and here is a partial box of the initial high strength patches you start out with. So I smoked all weekend, I remember my last cig, 11:36pm on Dec 12, 2010. I woke up Monday morning, took a shower, slapped a patch on.
Went to work, I was agitated and wanting a cig but I guess this patch kept the edge off just enough that I didnt give in. Came home from work that night, ate dinner and went to bed.
I had THE WORST FUCKING NIGHTMARES OF MY LIFE. I am talking CRAZY, WILD, murderous shit about me and my close friends. You wouldnt believe me if I told you the dreams. Just nuts murderous shit. And the thing is, I am one of those people that dont dream. I might remember a dream once or twice a year.
I woke up Tuesday morning and said holy shit wtf was that. I tell me wife and shes like man thats some crazy shit.. I rip the patch off, shower, slap another one on and go to work day 2. This repeats the next 2 nights....
I finally see my buddy that gave me this partial box of patches Thursday afternoon.. I tell him how the week has gone and about these insane nightmares. He looks at me and said.. asshole did you read the directions? Uh, no.. I just slapped the patch on in the morning and rinse and repeat daily..
He says read the directions when you get home. Sure enough, I read the box and it says right on the back. "WARNING do not sleep with the patch on. Remove before bed. Will cause vivid nightmares."
I cracked up, finished off day 7 of this partial 14 day box and never bought another box or used another patch again after the first 7 days.
I worked at the NASA facility "Rocket" and promoted "Vaping" over smoking.I sincerely don't mean this as a jab towards you but just had to say... your username checks out with that post.
-LD
Do you remember what your bi-monthly pay was? I remember thinking $30 a carton being good for the time.If my memory is correct, $2.19 a carton in the commissary when I quit.
I 100% believe this. Same experience here.Funny story on this.
I had a friend hand me a partial box of the highest strength quit smoking patches. I dont even remember what the brand was. This was Thursday before the Monday I picked to quit. He said, smoke your brains out, get it all in this weekend, then wake up Monday and put the patch on. He said it helped him and here is a partial box of the initial high strength patches you start out with. So I smoked all weekend, I remember my last cig, 11:36pm on Dec 12, 2010. I woke up Monday morning, took a shower, slapped a patch on.
Went to work, I was agitated and wanting a cig but I guess this patch kept the edge off just enough that I didnt give in. Came home from work that night, ate dinner and went to bed.
I had THE WORST FUCKING NIGHTMARES OF MY LIFE. I am talking CRAZY, WILD, murderous shit about me and my close friends. You wouldnt believe me if I told you the dreams. Just nuts murderous shit. And the thing is, I am one of those people that dont dream. I might remember a dream once or twice a year.
I woke up Tuesday morning and said holy shit wtf was that. I tell me wife and shes like man thats some crazy shit.. I rip the patch off, shower, slap another one on and go to work day 2. This repeats the next 2 nights....
I finally see my buddy that gave me this partial box of patches Thursday afternoon.. I tell him how the week has gone and about these insane nightmares. He looks at me and said.. asshole did you read the directions? Uh, no.. I just slapped the patch on in the morning and rinse and repeat daily..
He says read the directions when you get home. Sure enough, I read the box and it says right on the back. "WARNING do not sleep with the patch on. Remove before bed. Will cause vivid nightmares."
I cracked up, finished off day 7 of this partial 14 day box and never bought another box or used another patch again after the first 7 days.
That quite literally hurt to even read. I'm not sure how much it'll mean to you but I'm sorry to hear that. That's next level rough there.I quit Copenhagen in 1982/83, price was about ¢.35 a can when bought by the roll, it jumped to ¢.50 and I said I quit at ¢.75, sometime around then it did and I quit cold turkey. 2 - 3 cans a days to nothing. Never bothered me, Christmas 2 years later I came upon a single car wreck, it was my fiancé, she died. I crawled in a bottle and didn't crawl out for almost 15yrs. That was hard, alcohol addiction is a bitch, tobacco wasn't to hard for me probably because I hadn't been at it all that long. I have watched plenty of friends struggle with it and I am glad it never got a deep hold on me.
I get it- I haven't had any Copenhagen in over 10 years but I still have dreams about it and occasionally catch myself rubbing my tongue across my front lip thinking about it.I always went the cold turkey route. Quitting cigarettes was pretty easy to me. Only smoked for a couple years after high school. Chew was a lot harder. Fuck I want a chew right now. A nice fresh can a Cope...fuck. Lol.
Whenever I felt like I should stop I would take a brand new can or pack, and go throw it in the garbage. It could be unopened or have one out of it. Dealers choice. I'd do that enough that I'd just say "this is stupid I should just be done for real."
Smokes were easy, but dip is an entirely different animal for me. When my wife got pregnant with our first I started freaking out thinking about mortality and was able to make a mostly permanent quit. Went about 6-7 years and then chewed for about a year. Had a moment of weakness while drinking. Been off it again for the last 2-3 years.
But yeah, I want some chew...fuck.
I have grown my own tobacco a few times the past few years. tried to quit many times. but I definitely feel better smoking my organic homegrown than store bought.I dont think anyone here has ever started smoking or dipping under the misconception that it was healthy…
Pointing that out is as helpful as announcing that the sky is blue
But, where do you get all the extra chemicals "they" put in store bought?I have grown my own tobacco a few times the past few years. tried to quit many times. but I definitely feel better smoking my organic homegrown than store bought.
I get that too- towards the end of my 'regular' cigarette smoking I switched to American Spirits (no I'm not a hipster but I sure looked like one) for the same reasons. They were actually pretty good but certainly more expensive than other more popular brands.I have grown my own tobacco a few times the past few years. tried to quit many times. but I definitely feel better smoking my organic homegrown than store bought.
Quiting You have to change your habits. and having to go roll one definitely changes your habits.I get that too- towards the end of my 'regular' cigarette smoking I switched to American Spirits (no I'm not a hipster but I sure looked like one) for the same reasons. They were actually pretty good but certainly more expensive than other more popular brands.
-LD
What a fuckstain......dude.. youre in a thread abour people quiting tobacco.
Do you remember what your bi-monthly pay was? I remember thinking $30 a carton being good for the time.
-LD
I got so tired of looking for my cigarette and lighter every time I went somewhere. I smoked 2 packs a day ( Marlboro reds) and quit cold Turkey 20 years ago. I definitely don’t like the smell now either.Got tired of the little bastards controlling my life 5 years back, quit and have had no serious relapses outside of a few 1 smoke relapses in the first 6 months. The smell off them makes my stomach turn these days, no chance of relapse.
Best part of the patch…Very realistic and detailed….Always good dreams for me. YmmvI consider it a feature, not a bug lol. Very intense lucid dreams until tolerance builds up. Mine weren't bad like yours, but I've heard that before.
I had quit until I went to an awesome cigar store in Perfection Nevada.I've had a bit of a run at things on this topic myself. Presently I consider myself an "former" cigarette smoker & dipper but I still have my momentary relapses. Other than that- I still enjoy the occasional cigar (which I absolutely refuse to give up completely) and I'm also a regular pipe smoker these days (imagine how that comes across here in 2025... but hey I've always did things my way).
I imagine I started smoking cigarettes as either a freshman or sophomore in High School (things were a bit different then, not exactly "accepted" but a blind eye was often turned by our 'elders'). In a lot of ways, I'd reckon that I started smoking (1) because it was still socially acceptable (if you went to a restaurant you would be asked smoking or non-smoking) and (2) most of the elders I looked up to (almost exclusively WWII Vets) all smoked like it was going out of fashion and on that matter (3) smoking was still very much a common thing on TV as well.
In a lot of ways- I did things... I'll say differently as I was all about the menthol cigarettes at the time. I'm pretty sure I started smoking Marlboro Milds (the blue pack years before legislation came down to alter how cigarettes were labeled). I eventually moved to Marlboro menthols (full flavor/green packs) but took a side route into smoking Camel Turkish Jades.. I still think about those even though they've been discontinued for likely over 20 years now.
At that time, it was fairly common to see gas stations offer "buy one-get one" type of deals and I ran the gamut I'd suppose. I loved my Turkish Jades and also Marlboro Menthols- but would often take advantage of the deals and would smoke Kool's, Salem 'Blacks' (they had a cool pack that slid sideways), and also Parliament's (the smoke with the recessed filter). Occasionally I'd smoke Newports (hey I went to HS in the inner city and sometimes that's all that was available). But primarily Camels & Marlboro's were my thing. Camel also came out with 'premier' type of smokes that came in a tin rather than a cardboard box and they had otherwise exquisite/other worldly flavors in that line for a short time before that got shut down by the government.
After HS, I somehow got introduced to dipping and supplemented my smoking with dips, at the time Kayak (I remember that being one of my first cans), but also Shoal & Grizzly (want to say peach was my preferred flavor there, but also enjoyed green apple). There was a berry blend (I seem to remember it being from Skoal) that just gave me absolute heartburn so that was short-lived but there was also a vanilla type of blend that caught my fancy. I also was smoking "cigars", quotations being that they were swisher sweets/Philly blunts/etc.
Shortly afterwards- I got lost navigating college and found myself wearing a uniform because (believe it or not) I was afraid I'd miss being able to participate in the 'war' that started after 9/11. I remember going through BCT & AIT and not being allowed any tobacco and it being hell but after months without it, as soon as I was able to, I went back into it without any reservations.
My 'tastes' had changed somewhat though- I now was enjoying non-menthol cigarettes (primarily Marlboro Reds & Camel Filters) and when it came to dip I was all about the Copenhagen (would argue with others about the 'born on date' on the cardboard half of the can, and we'd get it so fresh/like within a week). That was some good stuff there.
Most folks that were also wearing a uniform seemed to gravitate towards the snuff but I never could make that work for me so I was primarily a 'long cut' guy (at least until Copenhagen briefly introduces their 'black' line that was mid-cut which I also enjoyed the hell out of.
Eventually I deployed and got what I was chasing after and dip became a crutch just to stay awake often times. I was also fully exploring chew- I remember before enlisting trying mail pouch tobacco which was just 'bleh' but Levi garret & southern pride (?) that was some tasty stuff there (and inexpensive). While deployed I was also introduced to 'good' cigars, real cuban long leaf type and that's where I fell in love with those/quality cigars in general.
Fast forwarding- I had enough of wearing a uniform and got out when my contract was over. I pretty much gave up on the chew (mainly because my situation had changed) but kept up with the Marlboro's/Camel's & Copenhagen. I eventually started dating locally and as odd as it sounds- I quite literally accidentally 'gave up' the Copenhagen because the lady I was courting didn't care for it and I was rather smitten with her (I eventually ended up marrying her) but it was never an intentional choice to stop enjoying Copenhagen, just one of those things that happened.
Cigarettes however- that's a different story all together. Long story short- I've quit at least a half dozen times and presently I tend to stick with smoking a pipe regularly and having the occasional cigar. BUT- anymore, although I say I've quit cigarettes, at least 2 or 3 times a year since then I cave and just have to give into whatever stressor is going on and buy a pack or two. It's gotten a bit harder to resist now that Lucky Strike cigarettes are back (and I have history with those).
But it is what it is I suppose- but one of the things that shocks me is I know cigarettes were never all that amazing and were primarily just an addiction (same with the dip/chew) but I can go months without any of it but still dream about smoking/dipping/chewing. Just strikes me as a bit crazy.
Anyway- that's my cliff notes about tobacco- just curious if anyone else had any similar stories is all.
-LD
Totally understand that- do you remember what cigar you were able to snag by chance?I had quit until I went to an awesome cigar store in Perfection Nevada.
Jesus don't get me started on American Spirit Hunter. Best cig I've ever had. Wife hates when I get them because as great as they are for the smoker, they stink bad afterwards. My wife is the primary reason I'm trying to quit. My family has lifetime smokers on both sides that have lived and continue to live with no cancer etc from smoking so good genetics but...I get that too- towards the end of my 'regular' cigarette smoking I switched to American Spirits (no I'm not a hipster but I sure looked like one) for the same reasons. They were actually pretty good but certainly more expensive than other more popular brands.
-LD
It's an absolute bitch isn't it? I haven't had a cigarette for weeks but guess what I'm thinking about? yeah the American Spirits don't quite have the swagger that Marlboro's do but damn I they aren't tasty as all get out. I went as far down as the bright yellow pack personally.Jesus don't get me started on American Spirit Hunter. Best cig I've ever had. Wife hates when I get them because as great as they are for the smoker, they stink bad afterwards. My wife is the primary reason I'm trying to quit. My family has lifetime smokers on both sides that have lived and continue to live with no cancer etc from smoking so good genetics but...
Trying to get my mom to quit too. She's smoked cigarettes since she was a teen. Switched to smoking Swisher Sweets years ago but has noticed the tobacco quality decrease over the years (part of why I only smoke American Spirits or Winstons, you can tell how much higher quality they are) and has also picked up vaping slowly.
That's the only thing that puts the shits to me with smoking is hearing some of the old fucks say that decades later they still get cravings for cigs.It's an absolute bitch isn't it? I haven't had a cigarette for weeks but guess what I'm thinking about? yeah the American Spirits don't quite have the swagger that Marlboro's do but damn I they aren't tasty as all get out. I went as far down as the bright yellow pack personally.
I almost hate to admit it (after all- I quite literally 'accidentally' quite Copenhagen many years ago) but were it not for my wife- I'd still be sucking down the proverbial Cowboy Killers with a smile on my face. I'm not exaggerating when I say I still dream about smoking cigarettes. It's unreal.
-LD