Craddock RTR

#151
we all gotta draw our lines 🤷‍♀️ If I was gonna slap one, I'd hope it was a bitchy one but for .41 moa at 317 I'd commit to slapping almost any nun period. I could look them in the eye and say the Lord made me do it so that I could do God's work...
 
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Hypothetically if you were picking up another/new 6 arc barrel would those here go with a 16" proof (because the 18" is out of stock every where) or give the 18" RTR a try? Looking for consistent accuracy for mixed long range target shooting and hunting applications. (Sometimes suppressed) Say 80% target 20% hunting use.
 
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No sir. He just gave basic info in an email.

ETA: It probably doesn’t mean much but their honest approach to the situation earned them a repeat customer. The barrels I got average +\- .75 moa, don’t copper foul to amount to anything, clean up easily, and look good. I’ll buy more barrels from them. They did the right thing and that means a lot.
 
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I am just finishing up an 18" .22 ARC build. I wanted to go with a 20" RTR barrel but they were sold out so I went with the 18" RTR barrel instead. It's going to be used for foxes, coyotes, ground hogs with a thermal once my tax refund comes it. I may try to use it on hogs next year. It will be used almost always suppressed.

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smarcus said:
Anyone have MV on 16 and 14.5 6.5 Creedmoor barrels with factory loads?
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With 14.5" RTR Barrel and Hornets factory 108 ELD I'm getting around 2470 fps

The 80gr VT shot around .5 MOA and carry a respectable amount of velocity i think it eas over 2600 fps

I can give you specific muzzle velocities next time I go out.
 
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Bigjake83 said:
With 14.5" RTR Barrel and Hornets factory 108 ELD I'm getting around 2470 fps

The 80gr VT shot around .5 MOA and carry a respectable amount of velocity i think it eas over 2600 fps

I can give you specific muzzle velocities next time I go out.
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I think he was asking about Creedmoor not ARC velocities. I only clarify because I'm interested in Creed velocity as well in the 14.5" length
 
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smarcus said:
Anyone have MV on 16 and 14.5 6.5 Creedmoor barrels with factory loads?
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16” 6.5 Creed RTR

S&B 140gr 2438 fps
Berger 130gr Hybrid 2504 fps
Berger 144gr Hybrid 2512 fps
Berger 153.5 Hybrid 2426 fps
Hornady 140gr ELD-M 2453 fps
Federal 140gr Gold Medal 2385 fps
AAC 140gr BTHP 2489 fps
AAC 140gr Matchking 2504 fps
Norma 130gr Golden Target 2592 fps
 
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71firebird400 said:
16” 6.5 Creed RTR

S&B 140gr 2438 fps
Berger 130gr Hybrid 2504 fps
Berger 144gr Hybrid 2512 fps
Berger 153.5 Hybrid 2426 fps
Hornady 140gr ELD-M 2453 fps
Federal 140gr Gold Medal 2385 fps
AAC 140gr BTHP 2489 fps
AAC 140gr Matchking 2504 fps
Norma 130gr Golden Target 2592 fps
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How is the accuracy? Thanks for posting all those velocities!
 
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matt33 said:
How is the accuracy? Thanks for posting all those velocities!
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All 5-shot groups at 100/200 meters. Have a handful of 10-shot groups and they are what you'd expect (about 1.2x the size of the 5-shot groups). Hornady 140 will show promise with one tiny group and then shit the bed. Berger 130's have been extremely consistent and are my go-to. Factory Berger 153.5's haven't shot well for me in any of my bolt guns so I wasn't surprised they didn't do well in this barrel. I have more testing to do with the AAC and Norma ammo.

S&B 140gr - Average 1.24 MOA, 8 groups fired.
Berger 130gr - Average 0.72 MOA, 8 groups fired.
Berger 144gr - Averaged 1.04 MOA, 2 groups fired.
Berger 153.5 - 2.19 MOA, 1 group fired.
Hornady 140gr ELD-M - 0.89 MOA, 12 groups fired.
Federal 140gr - Averaged 1.34 MOA, 2 groups fired.
AAC 140gr BTHP - 0.86 MOA, 1 group fired.
AAC 140gr Matchking - 0.77 MOA, 1 group fired
Norma 130gr Golden Target - 0.68 MOA, 4 groups fired.
 
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Also looking for accuracy reports, and reliability reports [unsuppressed] on the rifle length 14.5” 6.5CM barrels.

I want one something bad, but if they’re finicky unsuppressed because of the lack of dwell time, they’re a non-starter for me.
 
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71firebird400 said:
All 5-shot groups at 100/200 meters. Have a handful of 10-shot groups and they are what you'd expect (about 1.2x the size of the 5-shot groups). Hornady 140 will show promise with one tiny group and then shit the bed. Berger 130's have been extremely consistent and are my go-to. Factory Berger 153.5's haven't shot well for me in any of my bolt guns so I wasn't surprised they didn't do well in this barrel. I have more testing to do with the AAC and Norma ammo.

S&B 140gr - Average 1.24 MOA, 8 groups fired.
Berger 130gr - Average 0.72 MOA, 8 groups fired.
Berger 144gr - Averaged 1.04 MOA, 2 groups fired.
Berger 153.5 - 2.19 MOA, 1 group fired.
Hornady 140gr ELD-M - 0.89 MOA, 12 groups fired.
Federal 140gr - Averaged 1.34 MOA, 2 groups fired.
AAC 140gr BTHP - 0.86 MOA, 1 group fired.
AAC 140gr Matchking - 0.77 MOA, 1 group fired
Norma 130gr Golden Target - 0.68 MOA, 4 groups fired.
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That's actually pretty good, especially for the price.

I only have one large frame gas gun, LMT 20" stainless steel barrel. it does best with Berger 130 Hybrids and Hornady 140 ELD-M's, although I haven't tried all of those.

Recently, I've gotten away from 5 round groups. My new standard for semiauto accuracy is 10 Rounds at 1 MOA. Only 33%of my semiautomatic rifles are capable of this, and most of them are premium rifles.
 
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BurtG said:
Who has been truly happy with their RTR accuracy ?


Seems like sub par for 90+% of what’s been posted
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I’ve been happy with it. It’s a relatively lightweight, inexpensive 6.5 creed barrel. My SR25s outshoot it but they are several times more expensive than what it cost to put together this upper. I run it with a KAC PRT suppressor and it’s been extremely reliable.
 
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71firebird400 said:
16” 6.5 Creed RTR

S&B 140gr 2438 fps
Berger 130gr Hybrid 2504 fps
Berger 144gr Hybrid 2512 fps
Berger 153.5 Hybrid 2426 fps
Hornady 140gr ELD-M 2453 fps
Federal 140gr Gold Medal 2385 fps
AAC 140gr BTHP 2489 fps
AAC 140gr Matchking 2504 fps
Norma 130gr Golden Target 2592 fps
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Were those Berger 130's loaded by Berger or the FGMM load? Seems slow if FGMM but those bullets seem to be ideal in these shorter Creed barrels
 
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71firebird400 said:
All 5-shot groups at 100/200 meters. Have a handful of 10-shot groups and they are what you'd expect (about 1.2x the size of the 5-shot groups). Hornady 140 will show promise with one tiny group and then shit the bed. Berger 130's have been extremely consistent and are my go-to. Factory Berger 153.5's haven't shot well for me in any of my bolt guns so I wasn't surprised they didn't do well in this barrel. I have more testing to do with the AAC and Norma ammo.

S&B 140gr - Average 1.24 MOA, 8 groups fired.
Berger 130gr - Average 0.72 MOA, 8 groups fired.
Berger 144gr - Averaged 1.04 MOA, 2 groups fired.
Berger 153.5 - 2.19 MOA, 1 group fired.
Hornady 140gr ELD-M - 0.89 MOA, 12 groups fired.
Federal 140gr - Averaged 1.34 MOA, 2 groups fired.
AAC 140gr BTHP - 0.86 MOA, 1 group fired.
AAC 140gr Matchking - 0.77 MOA, 1 group fired
Norma 130gr Golden Target - 0.68 MOA, 4 groups fired.
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Thanks!
 
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BurtG said:
Who has been truly happy with their RTR accuracy ?


Seems like sub par for 90+% of what’s been posted
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I had MOA expectations and got what I expected. It's a $350 barrel from a maker who knows how to property gas and finish a barrel. If I wanted a barrel that shot every bullet more consistently I would pay the $700-$800 and wait 6-8 months for a Bart
 
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BurtG said:
Who has been truly happy with their RTR accuracy ?


Seems like sub par for 90+% of what’s been posted
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I like both of mine. They shoot Hornady Black 123ELD’s .75-1moa lot to lot. That’s about all I can expect from them with box ammo. I’d expect more from a developed hand load. They’re gassed perfectly. Function has been 100% suppressed and unsuppressed. Neither string shots when they get hot. Velocity has been on par with any other 18” Grendel barrel I’ve chrono’d with the ammo I shoot. Both clean up easily.
 
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rlsmith1 said:
I had MOA expectations and got what I expected. It's a $350 barrel from a maker who knows how to property gas and finish a barrel. If I wanted a barrel that shot every bullet more consistently I would pay the $700-$800 and wait 6-8 months for a Bart
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This is where I'm at as well, but I've also paid for the top shelf stuff to discover that doesn't mean you get a half minute barrel with factory ammo. This Craddock has performed nearly as well as any other large frame gas gun I've shot with the exception of a couple Knight's rifles and one Larue. I've owned several more expensive barrels that could not hang with the RTR.
 
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There is for sure a venn diagram of internet accuracy, factory ammo accuracy, reloading accuracy, bag accuracy, sled accuracy... to say nothing of 3 shot, 5 shot, 10 shot groups.

I'll tell on myself and say that as I've gotten older I have some great days and some days I just don't shoot as well as I used to.

I have a Noveske Grendel that consistently shoots 5 rounds into .6 MOA but I've struggled to get 10 rounds into 1" - with factory ammo - I finally got tired of $25 groups in order to be able to say it did it. It has killed game out to 400 yards and proven itself on steel out to 900. If I would switch to a 20 MOA base it would be a legit 1000 yard small frame AR gas gun.

I wish we could all know the possible performance with tuned ammo and the best shooter on the most stable rest - but I suspect sometimes people are an OK shooter on an OK rest using OK ammo - and if in that scenario you're anywhere near MOA - go do God's work.
 
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