Craddock RTR

[pangris]

we all gotta draw our lines If I was gonna slap one, I'd hope it was a bitchy one but for .41 moa at 317 I'd commit to slapping almost any nun period. I could look them in the eye and say the Lord made me do it so that I could do God's work...

 

[txrider15]

Hypothetically if you were picking up another/new 6 arc barrel would those here go with a 16" proof (because the 18" is out of stock every where) or give the 18" RTR a try? Looking for consistent accuracy for mixed long range target shooting and hunting applications. (Sometimes suppressed) Say 80% target 20% hunting use.

 

[pangris]

80% target = 18"

 

[BurtG]

sabatoged

Wow. Any more details to the story ?

 

[Jsp556]

No sir. He just gave basic info in an email.

ETA: It probably doesn’t mean much but their honest approach to the situation earned them a repeat customer. The barrels I got average +\- .75 moa, don’t copper foul to amount to anything, clean up easily, and look good. I’ll buy more barrels from them. They did the right thing and that means a lot.

 

[Maelstrom]

I am just finishing up an 18" .22 ARC build. I wanted to go with a 20" RTR barrel but they were sold out so I went with the 18" RTR barrel instead. It's going to be used for foxes, coyotes, ground hogs with a thermal once my tax refund comes it. I may try to use it on hogs next year. It will be used almost always suppressed.

 

[smarcus]

Anyone have MV on 16 and 14.5 6.5 Creedmoor barrels with factory loads?

 

[Bigjake83]

Anyone have MV on 16 and 14.5 6.5 Creedmoor barrels with factory loads?

With 14.5" RTR Barrel and Hornets factory 108 ELD I'm getting around 2470 fps

The 80gr VT shot around .5 MOA and carry a respectable amount of velocity i think it eas over 2600 fps

I can give you specific muzzle velocities next time I go out.

 

[rlsmith1]

With 14.5" RTR Barrel and Hornets factory 108 ELD I'm getting around 2470 fps

The 80gr VT shot around .5 MOA and carry a respectable amount of velocity i think it eas over 2600 fps

I can give you specific muzzle velocities next time I go out.

I think he was asking about Creedmoor not ARC velocities. I only clarify because I'm interested in Creed velocity as well in the 14.5" length

 

[Bigjake83]

I think he was asking about Creedmoor not ARC velocities. I only clarify because I'm interested in Creed velocity as well in the 14.5" length

Yup missed that..lol

 

[pangris]

I've got no creed velocities as I have no creed

6.5 Creedmoor- Effect of Barrel Length on Velocity: Cutting up a Creedmoor!

Since its introduction by Hornady in 2007, the 6.5 Creedmoor (sometimes shortened to Creed) has established a strong foothold in the US rifle market. The 6.5 Creedmoor balances the excellent exter…

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but I do have google

 

[71firebird400]

Anyone have MV on 16 and 14.5 6.5 Creedmoor barrels with factory loads?

16” 6.5 Creed RTR

S&B 140gr 2438 fps
Berger 130gr Hybrid 2504 fps
Berger 144gr Hybrid 2512 fps
Berger 153.5 Hybrid 2426 fps
Hornady 140gr ELD-M 2453 fps
Federal 140gr Gold Medal 2385 fps
AAC 140gr BTHP 2489 fps
AAC 140gr Matchking 2504 fps
Norma 130gr Golden Target 2592 fps

 

[matt33]

16” 6.5 Creed RTR

S&B 140gr 2438 fps
Berger 130gr Hybrid 2504 fps
Berger 144gr Hybrid 2512 fps
Berger 153.5 Hybrid 2426 fps
Hornady 140gr ELD-M 2453 fps
Federal 140gr Gold Medal 2385 fps
AAC 140gr BTHP 2489 fps
AAC 140gr Matchking 2504 fps
Norma 130gr Golden Target 2592 fps

How is the accuracy? Thanks for posting all those velocities!

 

[71firebird400]

How is the accuracy? Thanks for posting all those velocities!

All 5-shot groups at 100/200 meters. Have a handful of 10-shot groups and they are what you'd expect (about 1.2x the size of the 5-shot groups). Hornady 140 will show promise with one tiny group and then shit the bed. Berger 130's have been extremely consistent and are my go-to. Factory Berger 153.5's haven't shot well for me in any of my bolt guns so I wasn't surprised they didn't do well in this barrel. I have more testing to do with the AAC and Norma ammo.

S&B 140gr - Average 1.24 MOA, 8 groups fired.
Berger 130gr - Average 0.72 MOA, 8 groups fired.
Berger 144gr - Averaged 1.04 MOA, 2 groups fired.
Berger 153.5 - 2.19 MOA, 1 group fired.
Hornady 140gr ELD-M - 0.89 MOA, 12 groups fired.
Federal 140gr - Averaged 1.34 MOA, 2 groups fired.
AAC 140gr BTHP - 0.86 MOA, 1 group fired.
AAC 140gr Matchking - 0.77 MOA, 1 group fired
Norma 130gr Golden Target - 0.68 MOA, 4 groups fired.

 

[Bakwa]

Also looking for accuracy reports, and reliability reports [unsuppressed] on the rifle length 14.5” 6.5CM barrels.

I want one something bad, but if they’re finicky unsuppressed because of the lack of dwell time, they’re a non-starter for me.

 

[BurtG]

Who has been truly happy with their RTR accuracy ?


Seems like sub par for 90+% of what’s been posted

 

[matt33]

All 5-shot groups at 100/200 meters. Have a handful of 10-shot groups and they are what you'd expect (about 1.2x the size of the 5-shot groups). Hornady 140 will show promise with one tiny group and then shit the bed. Berger 130's have been extremely consistent and are my go-to. Factory Berger 153.5's haven't shot well for me in any of my bolt guns so I wasn't surprised they didn't do well in this barrel. I have more testing to do with the AAC and Norma ammo.

S&B 140gr - Average 1.24 MOA, 8 groups fired.
Berger 130gr - Average 0.72 MOA, 8 groups fired.
Berger 144gr - Averaged 1.04 MOA, 2 groups fired.
Berger 153.5 - 2.19 MOA, 1 group fired.
Hornady 140gr ELD-M - 0.89 MOA, 12 groups fired.
Federal 140gr - Averaged 1.34 MOA, 2 groups fired.
AAC 140gr BTHP - 0.86 MOA, 1 group fired.
AAC 140gr Matchking - 0.77 MOA, 1 group fired
Norma 130gr Golden Target - 0.68 MOA, 4 groups fired.

That's actually pretty good, especially for the price.

I only have one large frame gas gun, LMT 20" stainless steel barrel. it does best with Berger 130 Hybrids and Hornady 140 ELD-M's, although I haven't tried all of those.

Recently, I've gotten away from 5 round groups. My new standard for semiauto accuracy is 10 Rounds at 1 MOA. Only 33%of my semiautomatic rifles are capable of this, and most of them are premium rifles.

 

[71firebird400]

Who has been truly happy with their RTR accuracy ?


Seems like sub par for 90+% of what’s been posted

I’ve been happy with it. It’s a relatively lightweight, inexpensive 6.5 creed barrel. My SR25s outshoot it but they are several times more expensive than what it cost to put together this upper. I run it with a KAC PRT suppressor and it’s been extremely reliable.

 

[rlsmith1]

16” 6.5 Creed RTR

S&B 140gr 2438 fps
Berger 130gr Hybrid 2504 fps
Berger 144gr Hybrid 2512 fps
Berger 153.5 Hybrid 2426 fps
Hornady 140gr ELD-M 2453 fps
Federal 140gr Gold Medal 2385 fps
AAC 140gr BTHP 2489 fps
AAC 140gr Matchking 2504 fps
Norma 130gr Golden Target 2592 fps

Were those Berger 130's loaded by Berger or the FGMM load? Seems slow if FGMM but those bullets seem to be ideal in these shorter Creed barrels

 

[smarcus]

All 5-shot groups at 100/200 meters. Have a handful of 10-shot groups and they are what you'd expect (about 1.2x the size of the 5-shot groups). Hornady 140 will show promise with one tiny group and then shit the bed. Berger 130's have been extremely consistent and are my go-to. Factory Berger 153.5's haven't shot well for me in any of my bolt guns so I wasn't surprised they didn't do well in this barrel. I have more testing to do with the AAC and Norma ammo.

S&B 140gr - Average 1.24 MOA, 8 groups fired.
Berger 130gr - Average 0.72 MOA, 8 groups fired.
Berger 144gr - Averaged 1.04 MOA, 2 groups fired.
Berger 153.5 - 2.19 MOA, 1 group fired.
Hornady 140gr ELD-M - 0.89 MOA, 12 groups fired.
Federal 140gr - Averaged 1.34 MOA, 2 groups fired.
AAC 140gr BTHP - 0.86 MOA, 1 group fired.
AAC 140gr Matchking - 0.77 MOA, 1 group fired
Norma 130gr Golden Target - 0.68 MOA, 4 groups fired.

Thanks!

 

[71firebird400]

Were those Berger 130's loaded by Berger or the FGMM load? Seems slow if FGMM but those bullets seem to be ideal in these shorter Creed barrels

Berger loaded 130s. They used to load them hotter but were popping primers.

 

[rlsmith1]

Who has been truly happy with their RTR accuracy ?


Seems like sub par for 90+% of what’s been posted

I had MOA expectations and got what I expected. It's a $350 barrel from a maker who knows how to property gas and finish a barrel. If I wanted a barrel that shot every bullet more consistently I would pay the $700-$800 and wait 6-8 months for a Bart

 

[Jsp556]

Who has been truly happy with their RTR accuracy ?


Seems like sub par for 90+% of what’s been posted

I like both of mine. They shoot Hornady Black 123ELD’s .75-1moa lot to lot. That’s about all I can expect from them with box ammo. I’d expect more from a developed hand load. They’re gassed perfectly. Function has been 100% suppressed and unsuppressed. Neither string shots when they get hot. Velocity has been on par with any other 18” Grendel barrel I’ve chrono’d with the ammo I shoot. Both clean up easily.

 

[71firebird400]

I had MOA expectations and got what I expected. It's a $350 barrel from a maker who knows how to property gas and finish a barrel. If I wanted a barrel that shot every bullet more consistently I would pay the $700-$800 and wait 6-8 months for a Bart

This is where I'm at as well, but I've also paid for the top shelf stuff to discover that doesn't mean you get a half minute barrel with factory ammo. This Craddock has performed nearly as well as any other large frame gas gun I've shot with the exception of a couple Knight's rifles and one Larue. I've owned several more expensive barrels that could not hang with the RTR.