We may finally know who’s been to the island

The new bullshit excuse preparing us for a heavily redacted release is that the release of the Epstein file has national security implications. Fuck right off with that bullshit. Was Epstein an agent of Israeli Intelligence services? Probably but that doesn't mean we shouldn't have complete transparency.
 
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By national security do they mean they don't want to give up potential blackmail material they could use? They have the snake by its head, yank that fucker into the light and set the swamp back a few years.
 
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By national security do they mean they don't want to give up potential blackmail material they could use?

NatSec as in: Trump is not constantly handing out rewards to the Florida Coverup Crew because they are really-good-lawyers.

If they were good lawyers and performed their actual-jobs, they would be American Heroes for bringing a pedophile to justice, while also exposing the most powerful coercive foreign control network ever, and freeing our Gov from foreign domination.

Acosta, Bondi, Barr, etc... all belong in prison for life- not sitting in cabinet positions and running the United States Government.
 
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i guess we can still hope.

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They aren't going to release anything. Not as long as there's "cases pending" for prosecution.
If there's people that are out of the country they'll have to try to extradite them. Which could ruin their case against the person. If they put out an extradition order for Helen Degenerate the Internet would go crazy saying that it was because of the Epstein list. Her lawyers could claim that getting a fair trial would be impossible.
The list is bullshit other than ruined careers and lifestyles unless they have incriminating videos or pictures of someone in the act and proof that the other person is/was underage at the time. Getting those that are willing to come out and testify against a well known celebrity or politician will be a hurdle. The lawyers will destroy their lives. They did it to supreme court nominees and a presidential candidate. They will be even worse against a no name 20 something year old. G
 

Former CEO of two of the world’s largest banks/ financial institutions was a frequent flyer - and he liked Disney princesses.
He’s on trial now in the UK - but from the article looks like he is facing fines and suspension from working in the financial world .
 
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The list is bullshit other than ruined careers and lifestyles unless they have incriminating videos or pictures of someone in the act and proof that the other person is/was underage at the time.
we have a winner.

The expectations on this have been built up when there’s nothing there.

254 “victims”/escort/massage therapists(rub n tug)

I mean, come the fuck on….
 
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And then I’ll be expecting J6 and Covid type raids with tanks and machine guns and snipers and dogs from the feds all the way town to town constable 👮.

And if we see any type of action like that at all it’ll go a long way toward rebuilding trust .
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i've seen her stuff on comp. exc digging. i think she is hiding out in Paraguay? must find her book!
She’s one of the only younger people who has a clue about these topics. She has managed to reach many places where I was decades ago, in a very short time in her life, by staying a critical thinker and putting in the dispassionate research to come to the findings and conclusions she has made.

She basically explains how international organized crime families and people have harnessed the powers of surveillance and exploitation operations for their own interests.

I don’t know if she covered it, but Ghislaine Maxwell is daughter of Robert Maxwell, who was one of the biggest shadow-bankers in the world. He specialized in money-laundering for international criminals, especially heads of state of many prominent nations.

This is how Epstein actually made most of his money as well, and used the sexual blackmail exploitation operation as a lower-level lever to those efforts.

Again, if people really want to learn more about how the financial systems work in these spaces, read Dope Inc.
 
Whitney did get into the Maxwell thing as i recall. her work is really impressive and she doesn't BS without docs. i am a big fan of Trump and Musk. she is def not. it is good to have a reliable alt source of info. keeps the love at a limited and questioning level. same with Sachs,Mearsheimer,Ritter and Macgregor. i find their stuff useful. i know you think they are FOS at best or commie spies at worst. they do flog the same themes hard a lot,which makes me suspect. but staying informed and learning the truth is difficult,esp in this digital,AI world. all opinion anyway as i suspect nobody here is gonna be making nat'l policy.
 
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sucks. same as UK,where i used to know some good people. what is it about the Anglosphere that it has gone so hard left/woke/commie? really doesn't make much sense historically. we did kick out monarchy,so that put us ahead of the curve a bit. we have 2A,kinda,and that helps. despite Trump,we are way not fixed yet.
You Americans are so gullible. No, you won't accept communism outright, but we'll keep feeding you small doses of socialism until you'll finally wake up and find you already have communism. We won't have to fight you. We'll so weaken your economy until you'll fall like overripe fruit into our hands.

Nikita Khrushchev

The United States will eventually fly the Communist red flag…The American people will hoist it themselves.

Nikita Khrushchev

I can prophecy that your grandchildren in America will live under socialism -- Our firm conviction is that sooner or later Capitalism will give way to Socialism. Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you.

Nikita Khrushchev
 
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I got interested today ,so I googled epstiens island , there's not even a airstrip on the island , the name is little Saint John's island and the next island to the north is quite a bit larger and it does have a airport , so anyone visiting epstien would have to helo there or take a boat ride, so does he have a private Learjet that stays a the big island or is this whole story just a hoax.asking for a feind.
 
I got interested today ,so I googled epstiens island , there's not even a airstrip on the island , the name is little Saint John's island and the next island to the north is quite a bit larger and it does have a airport , so anyone visiting epstien would have to helo there or take a boat ride, so does he have a private Learjet that stays a the big island or is this whole story just a hoax.asking for a feind.
It's not. It has been reported quite a bit that it was in the BVI, and it's not. The island's name Little St. James. It's small Island between St. Thomas and St. John, in the USVI, South of Red Hook. You can see it past Great St. James when you take the ferry from Red Hook across to St. John or the BVI.

There are a bunch of dive sites around St. James, Little St. James, and Dog Island a little further South that I used to hit for a shallow dive after a deep one at French Cap, which is much further South and West past Buck Island (French Cap has gorgeous formations with huge fish). I never actually set foot on Little St. James but I have on Dog. When I lived down there in the late '90s there was nothing on either of those islands. Now Google Earth shows they've demoed the weird temple with the stripes Epstein built, but his palatial casa is still there.

There is no airstrip on Greater St. James. You fly into Cyril E. King in Charlotte Amalia (where he probably kept his jet), take a taxi to Red Hook, and then there are ferries and private boats to take you to St. John, BVI, or wherever you want to go. To get to St. Croix you take the Bombardier from Charlotte Amalia harbor straight south. The only other choice of airport is Tortola in the BVI, and then you have to clear customs. Honestly, this is just how people get around and it would draw no suspicion to get to your place by boat. He clearly chose this because he could slip and slip out with no passport and no customs. An ID is all you need to go there like any other American airport. That's how he got them in an out drawing no suspicion. Tons of young girls in bikinis like natural camouflage.

It's a fucking rogues gallery down there. There are many felons who served federal time and made their way down there after prison with all their cash (somewhat like Alaska). I knew quite a few including some celebrities who served time, some Wall Street criminals who you would know, and a couple of retired rock and rollers who like to scuba dive. Seems just to depend on how much cash they hid before they went down.

I lived on Mahogany Run golf course on the North side of St. Thomas (I heard it's gone and all developed now), and would regularly run in the morning with a Wall Street junk bond thief, and a drug dealer rapper who both got out of prison that same year. Both very nice guys... One of my dive masters did fifteen years for selling cocaine in Ohio, and him and his dad were huge bow hunters. He had all his mounts shipped to his house. Full elk and mountain lion mounts... ridiculous. He was a good guy too. It's a strange place to live and work.
 
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It's not. It has been reported quite a bit that it was in the BVI, and it's not. The island's name Little St. James. It's small Island between St. Thomas and St. John, in the USVI, South of Red Hook. You can see it past Great St. James when you take the ferry from Red Hook across to St. John or the BVI.

There are a bunch of dive sites around St. James, Little St. James, and Dog Island a little further South that I used to hit for a shallow dive after a deep one at French Cap, which is much further South and West past Buck Island (French Cap has gorgeous formations with huge fish). I never actually set foot on Little St. James but I have on Dog. When I lived down there in the late '90s there was nothing on either of those islands. Now Google Earth shows they've demoed the weird temple with the stripes Epstein built, but his palatial casa is still there.

There is no airstrip on Greater St. James. You fly into Cyril E. King in Charlotte Amalia (where he probably kept his jet), take a taxi to Red Hook, and then there are ferries and private boats to take you to St. John, BVI, or wherever you want to go. To get to St. Croix you take the Bombardier from Charlotte Amalia harbor straight south. The only other choice of airport is Tortola in the BVI, and then you have to clear customs. Honestly, this is just how people get around and it would draw no suspicion to get to your place by boat. He clearly chose this because he could slip and slip out with no passport and no customs. An ID is all you need to go there like any other American airport. That's how he got them in an out drawing no suspicion. Tons of young girls in bikinis like natural camouflage.

It's a fucking rogues gallery down there. There are many felons who served federal time and made their way down there after prison with all their cash (somewhat like Alaska). I knew quite a few including some celebrities who served time, some Wall Street criminals who you would know, and a couple of retired rock and rollers who like to scuba dive. Seems just to depend on how much cash they hid before they went down.

I lived on Mahogany Run golf course on the North side of St. Thomas (I heard it's gone and all developed now), and would regularly run in the morning with a Wall Street junk bond thief, and a drug dealer rapper who both got out of prison that same year. Both very nice guys... One of my dive masters did fifteen years for selling cocaine in Ohio, and him and his dad were huge bow hunters. He had all his mounts shipped to his house. Full elk and mountain lion mounts... ridiculous. He was a good guy too. It's a strange place to live and work.
interesting. i was there in about 72/3. talked to some US expat biz owners who were leaving. they said that the anti white corruption and discrimination was impossible to deal with. did you see that kinda thing? maybe not when a cash fix was in?
 
It's not. It has been reported quite a bit that it was in the BVI, and it's not. The island's name Little St. James. It's small Island between St. Thomas and St. John, in the USVI, South of Red Hook. You can see it past Great St. James when you take the ferry from Red Hook across to St. John or the BVI.

There are a bunch of dive sites around St. James, Little St. James, and Dog Island a little further South that I used to hit for a shallow dive after a deep one at French Cap, which is much further South and West past Buck Island (French Cap has gorgeous formations with huge fish). I never actually set foot on Little St. James but I have on Dog. When I lived down there in the late '90s there was nothing on either of those islands. Now Google Earth shows they've demoed the weird temple with the stripes Epstein built, but his palatial casa is still there.

There is no airstrip on Greater St. James. You fly into Cyril E. King in Charlotte Amalia (where he probably kept his jet), take a taxi to Red Hook, and then there are ferries and private boats to take you to St. John, BVI, or wherever you want to go. To get to St. Croix you take the Bombardier from Charlotte Amalia harbor straight south. The only other choice of airport is Tortola in the BVI, and then you have to clear customs. Honestly, this is just how people get around and it would draw no suspicion to get to your place by boat. He clearly chose this because he could slip and slip out with no passport and no customs. An ID is all you need to go there like any other American airport. That's how he got them in an out drawing no suspicion. Tons of young girls in bikinis like natural camouflage.

It's a fucking rogues gallery down there. There are many felons who served federal time and made their way down there after prison with all their cash (somewhat like Alaska). I knew quite a few including some celebrities who served time, some Wall Street criminals who you would know, and a couple of retired rock and rollers who like to scuba dive. Seems just to depend on how much cash they hid before they went down.

I lived on Mahogany Run golf course on the North side of St. Thomas (I heard it's gone and all developed now), and would regularly run in the morning with a Wall Street junk bond thief, and a drug dealer rapper who both got out of prison that same year. Both very nice guys... One of my dive masters did fifteen years for selling cocaine in Ohio, and him and his dad were huge bow hunters. He had all his mounts shipped to his house. Full elk and mountain lion mounts... ridiculous. He was a good guy too. It's a strange place to live and work.
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So it's next to st.croix?
 
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interesting. i was there in about 72/3. talked to some US expat biz owners who were leaving. they said that the anti white corruption and discrimination was impossible to deal with. did you see that kinda thing? maybe not when a cash fix was in?
That was still accurate decades later. I was diving, on the water, and around hotels, so I didn’t have a whole lot of contact with the West Indians unless I went shopping. They are totally fine with tourists. They know which side of bread the butter goes on, but they knew if you lived and worked there and they hated us. There was one bar in Red Hook, the Warehouse, where all the white St. Tomians would go to drink where we wouldn't get fucked with. Pretty much both kinds of music on the jukebox, and fist fights over how you hunt deer (not kidding). The place was fucking great. Double or nothing with five dice against the bartender, and if you ordered a $5 rum and coke they would put a glass of ice in front of you with a can of coke and the bottle of rum. It was pour your own (because the coke cost more than the rum).

If I went to Napa, or Kmart, or the grocery store half the men and all the women would suck their teeth at me, which is the West Indian FU. They didn't want us there, but since most of them can't swim and most are scared of the ocean and petrified of sharks we pretty much have everything that's good to ourselves...

When I went down there I thought Rastas were kind of cool...till I met them. Honestly, nothing to recommend with West Indian culture. Most of their food is more Puertorriquena than anything else. The only people they hate more than whites are African Americans. They cannot fucking stand mainland blacks.

I took the written driving test five times because it was written in a form of English with no grammar and a heavy dose of double negatives meaning you had a fifty fifty shot at getting the question right. The first time I took it I loudly told the asshole grading it that it was not written in English, and that a first grader could have written it better. They would not tell me which questions I got wrong. I think they finally just gave it to me when they saw I would not quit and keep coming back till I randomly answered enough questions correctly. West Indians are worthless. Even the hotels preferred not to hire them if they could avoid it because they are so surly, lazy, and entitled.

I have always had a bunch of black friends in the States. The only black people on St. Thomas I was friends with were a captain from Baltimore and his white wife, and the Federal Prosecutor, who was from Georgia, and his Puerto Rican wife is wife. I did not make a single West Indian friend, mostly because they all seemed to resent me and treated everyone who lived there like shit. That is not to say you will have problems as a tourist, you won't. They can be charming if they want your money. There are a lot of really good restaurants on St. Thomas too.

So, yea, same same. Wouldn't trade the experience for anything.
 
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St Croix is a haul. It's more than thirty miles South. You can't see it at all from the rest of the USVI. Whereas you can see Porto Rico and the whole BVI except for Anagada, which is way out to the East. St . Croix is as cool as St. John. The locals are much nicer too. They have beach wall diving there too, which is pretty darn kewl.