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Your PVA prefit experience

#801
santee116 said:
Just got an Osprey prefit in .223 Wlyde, .062 freebore, .750 taperless.

I broke it in with cheap 55gr. fmj ammo and it did not particurly like it, hovered around 1.5-2" groups. About 100 rounds in I finally fed it some handloads and it perked right up. Just a load I threw together with no work up. Looks like it will hunt. This mirrors my experience with my 6mm Osprey, great accuracy in that one too.

Hornday 68 gr BTHP
25.0 grains of Varget
Nosler brass
CCI-BR4

5 round group
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20 round group
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Prefit on the Bighorn, really digging the .750 taperless. Seems like an ideal "hunting" weight contour as a suppressor host.
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Sounds familiar. I started fire forming .223 Rem brass through my 223 AI barrel with hand loads of cheap FMJ bullets and was getting 2-3" @ 100 yds. This was VERY concerning!!! Then, I ran some Lapua and Norma match grade box ammo 223 Rem and groups went right down to 1/2" @100. Once I had enough fire formed brass, I started reloading with good quality Berger 80 gr and 85.5 gr bullets, and now the gun shoots 0.3 - 0.6 MOA, very consistently
 

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#802
Black Greyhound said:
Sounds familiar. I started fire forming .223 Rem brass through my 223 AI barrel with hand loads of cheap FMJ bullets and was getting 2-3" @ 100 yds. This was VERY concerning!!! Then, I ran some Lapua and Norma match grade box ammo 223 Rem and groups went right down to 1/2" @100. Once I had enough fire formed brass, I started reloading with good quality Berger 80 gr and 85.5 gr bullets, and now the gun shoots 0.3 - 0.6 MOA, very consistently
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Looks like a winner now!
 
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#803
bohem said:
"Thanks for reaching out and letting us know you're having an issue. I am happy to help, let's get to the bottom of what's going on."

That's the email you would have gotten if you had reached out to let us know.


Someone else had a problem recently where the rifle would shoot fine for groups and pressure. Then inside a handful of rounds they got sticky extraction. Turned out that the bolt was screwed up somehow and it needed to go back to the action maker. I haven't heard back on anything since then so I have no idea if that cured his problem.

Yours sounds similar that things were fine at 64 grains but now over time you're having problems at 59.

Let's try this:

Email me ALL the information you have and I will see what we can do to sort it out.

Order number
Action
Barrel blank ordered (Osprey or Rock Creek)
Bullets and powder being used
Brass being used
What symptoms you're calling "pressure signs" (there's a lot of poor or misapplied information out there as to what pressure signs are).
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email sent I am having similar issues to zrod
 
#807
santee116 said:
Just got an Osprey prefit in .223 Wlyde, .062 freebore, .750 taperless.

I broke it in with cheap 55gr. fmj ammo and it did not particurly like it, hovered around 1.5-2" groups. About 100 rounds in I finally fed it some handloads and it perked right up. Just a load I threw together with no work up. Looks like it will hunt. This mirrors my experience with my 6mm Osprey, great accuracy in that one too.

Hornday 68 gr BTHP
25.0 grains of Varget
Nosler brass
CCI-BR4

5 round group
View attachment 8640686

20 round group
View attachment 8640687


Prefit on the Bighorn, really digging the .750 taperless. Seems like an ideal "hunting" weight contour as a suppressor host.

View attachment 8640691
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Did you weigh that 20” spiral fluted barrel before mounting it? Looks like a perfect size for a suppressed set up. What can is that?
 
#808
Chose a 6CM PVA prefit for my Tikka hunting rifle I'm building because of this thread. Should have it within the next few weeks I imagine. I'll only be shooting factory ammo through it but I'm also not looking for uber-precision. Just functional hunting rifle precision like a 20 round group under 1.5 MOA or something.
 
#809
KYAggie said:
Did you weigh that 20” spiral fluted barrel before mounting it? Looks like a perfect size for a suppressed set up. What can is that?
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I did, its actually 18" and weighs 38.5 oz on my scale. The can is a Thunderbeast Ultra 7.

I think its great hunting profile. To compare, I took off an unfluted 18" Prefered Barrel Blanks #2 Sporter in 6.5 CM that weighed in at 46.4 oz. So in the barrel swap I saved about 8 oz for the same length barrel in a smaller caliber.
 
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santee116 said:
I did, its actually 18" and weighs 38.5 oz on my scale. The can is a Thunderbeast Ultra 7.

I think its great hunting profile. To compare, I took off an unfluted 18" Prefered Barrel Blanks #2 Sporter in 6.5 CM that weighed in at 46.4 oz. So in the barrel swap I saved about 8 oz for the same length barrel in a smaller caliber.
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I thought that looked a little short for a 20”, I’m not sure where I got the idea it was that long. That barrel hammers. I have a 20” 300WSM of the same profile and flutes showing up this week for my short action Origin. I have high hopes for it. What stock is that? I have Peak 44 Bastion for mine, although I’ll likely put it in my weighted KRG-b for breaking and load development. Why bench a 8# gun when you can make it a 12# gun for testing.
 
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KYAggie said:
I thought that looked a little short for a 20”, I’m not sure where I got the idea it was that long. That barrel hammers. I have a 20” 300WSM of the same profile and flutes showing up this week for my short action Origin. I have high hopes for it. What stock is that? I have Peak 44 Bastion for mine, although I’ll likely put it in my weighted KRG-b for breaking and load development. Why bench a 8# gun when you can make it a 12# gun for testing.
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Its a Stocky's VG2, I really like the ergos on it, its been a great stock. I actually have a Peak Bastion on my Tikka, great stock as well.
 
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#812
Kickin45 said:
Adding to an old thread.
Got a PVA 6mm barrel. Sent it to be chambered in 6GT. So far I’ve shot 45 rounds through it.
This is the best 5 group it’s shot so far, and the best group I’ve ever shot period!!!View attachment 8648502
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I was able to get basically the same grouping with 107 SMK FGMM ammo, but nothing else would group that well from a factory ammo perspective with my PVA heavy contour BBL (which PVA is looking at for me - granted, I haven't heard anything back from them). Edit: heard back from them today and they had to re-ream the throat… all good and being returned. I somehow doubt you’d see that kind of service for anybody else so quickly.

That said, the CF Bull 6 Creed they spun up for me shoots most factory ammo pretty well, and some factory ammo REALLY well, and also shoots my 107SMK bullets through the same hole...
 
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#814
GBMaryland said:
I was able to get basically the same grouping with 107 SMK FGMM ammo, but nothing else would group that well from a factory ammo perspective with my PVA heavy contour BBL (which PVA is looking at for me - granted, I haven't heard anything back from them). Edit: heard back from them today and they had to re-ream the throat… all good and being returned. I somehow doubt you’d see that kind of service for anybody else so quickly.

That said, the CF Bull 6 Creed they spun up for me shoots most factory ammo pretty well, and some factory ammo REALLY well, and also shoots my 107SMK bullets through the same hole...
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That’s great to hear. CS is so important nowadays, good to hear that they are on it.

I forgot to put in my post, that 5 shot group was 0.142” and is Factory Hornady 109 😳
I can’t wait to handload this!!!!
 
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#815
NateVA said:
Chose a 6CM PVA prefit for my Tikka hunting rifle I'm building because of this thread. Should have it within the next few weeks I imagine. I'll only be shooting factory ammo through it but I'm also not looking for uber-precision. Just functional hunting rifle precision like a 20 round group under 1.5 MOA or something.
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We appreciate you’re confidence in ordering from us, based on forum review alone. We will always stand behind every barrel we ship.
 
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BenE said:
We appreciate you’re confidence in ordering from us, based on forum review alone. We will always stand behind every barrel we ship.
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I'm just glad I was able to send it in for install. I need to get my own barrel swap equipment but I will admit I'm glad the first one I do myself won't be taking off a factory Tikka barrel. I've heard it can sometimes be quite a process.
 
#817
I've gotten so many barrels either done through PVA or from PVA. Generally, they are great. The customer service aspect is the important part of it...

They've:

- Rebarreled a Sako TRG-22 for me
- Rebarreled a Tikka T3XA1 for me
- Cambered two Proof CF BBLs for me
- Sold me two PVA CF barrels (for ARC CDGs)
- Chambered at least two Bartlein BBLs for me
- Troubleshot an AREA 419 manufacturers defect with their universal adapter system (they had a bad run of universal adapters for TBAC CBs series suppressors - rare, but it happens)

Their have been occasional issues, but they have 100% stood by me as a customer. It's a great team. They are busy, which is good news, as I hope they are around for a long time.
 
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I've talked about our Production Shop a little, most of the stuff we do for Hide Members is the Custom Shop. We finished a run of 6.5 Creedmoor prefits for Solus/Origin barrels several months back and we just got stock release on the blanks that we had left from the contract run. We buy more blanks for a contract than what is required to make sure if something happens in production we have spares... these are those spares.

There are 15 barrels total, all are 6.5mm Creeds and they're all setup for Origin/Solus headspace. The contours are limited in the drop down menu and the pricing includes muzzle threads (5/8-24) cut to our standard Class 3A spec.

Blanks used are Vortakt Series 400 which are 416R stainless, lapped, stress relieved and button rifled. In our internal testing these seemed comparable to Criterions we've seen. They are not custom made Ospreys

We saw factory ammo hover around 3/4 MOA and hand loads were a little tighter.

The blowout pricing is a "get 'em while they're here, when they're gone they're gone" situation.

LINK
 
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GBMaryland said:
What’s the interest rate on those barrels?
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Performance responses have been very positive, a number of people interested in them as soon as we finish more.

The AR barrels in general have 2 more machining steps involved in getting them out the door so they take longer; this is why we batch them in production and don't really take on custom orders. We underestimated the initial interest on 6mm ARCs on the first batch which is why they're out of stock for a while lately.
 
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I love that you guys offer an adjustable bolt carrier group as opposed to using an adjustable gas block.

If nothing else, because cleaning that’s probably a lot easier than taking apart your adjustable gas block.

Not to mention the fact that a 1:7 might be more advantageous…

Thanks for all the info…. I will be waiting for those to drop.
 
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#830
Drbobinmo said:
My best 5 shot group at 100 yards with a PVA prefit. 6.5cm with about 1400 rounds on it. It’s always been a tack driver and still is. 2400 rounds now and checked zero before my match this Saturday and shot a group not much bigger. Have a 6BRA barrel coming tomorrow from him and have no doubt what it will be capable of!
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5 shots? Damn dude... want a job test shooting barrels for us?
 
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#831
BenE said:
Is that the steel barrel we just returned?
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Yep, but the only thing I could get to shoot extremely well in that barrel were 107 SMK. It would not shoot any other factory ammo really well like that… and specifically that’s 107SMK in the lower node.

Any other bullet it would shoot OK (1 inch or slightly larger), but it would not group like that. When I say I tried other factory ammunition, I tried every other available factory ammunition, and none of them would group like that.

It’s just kind of weird, and it’s not something I’ve experienced before. Usually, you’ll find at least two or three specific bullets and factory ammo that will have really good SDs… and sometimes crappy SDs, but they’ll still group surprisingly well.
 
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