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Man, this sux, looking at the rifles posted. Just had a hernia that came out of nowhere…had surgery last week.

Since I am forbidden to lift more than 15lbs for 4-6 weeks, I can’t even take my damn 20lbs AI out of the safe! 😢

Looks like only the super lightweights are going to the range with me. Hello Mr. Kidd and Mrs. T-bolt 17hmr!
 
Today's practice session. 26" 6x47L barrel spitting 107smks at 2900. April 5th is her first match.

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Man, this sux, looking at the rifles posted. Just had a hernia that came out of nowhere…had surgery last week.

Since I am forbidden to lift more than 15lbs for 4-6 weeks, I can’t even take my damn 20lbs AI out of the safe! 😢

Looks like only the super lightweights are going to the range with me. Hello Mr. Kidd and Mrs. T-bolt 17hmr!

I feel for ya. I am having labrum surgery on my strong side shoulder in May. I'll be down for up to six months but most certainly the first three. Not looking forward to not being able to shoot or fly but the silver lining is that it's hotter than hell down here during the summer so I won't be missing much lol.
 
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Man, this sux, looking at the rifles posted. Just had a hernia that came out of nowhere…had surgery last week.

Since I am forbidden to lift more than 15lbs for 4-6 weeks, I can’t even take my damn 20lbs AI out of the safe! 😢

Looks like only the super lightweights are going to the range with me. Hello Mr. Kidd and Mrs. T-bolt 17hmr!
Be well soon! Might be fun to shoot small calibers for a while, practice is practice, doesnt matter which caliber.
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Be well soon! Might be fun to shoot small calibers for a while, practice is practice, doesnt matter which caliber.
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Yep, thx man. Thx for the encouragement!

I actually really like small calibers, but when someone (or your body) says, “Nope, you cannot do that,” that’s what chaps your arse grrrrr.
 
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Why are the sterk handles so damn hard to find?!
Trust me, go to eurooptic and just backorder the handle. Yeah, ya gotta pay up front and wait, but that’s the only easy way I could get ahold of one. Took 6-9 months.

They are so worth it. Way better than the Anarchy thing (ewww, tried it).
 
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Why is there an MG pintle mount on a police Bearcat?

What scenario do they envision needing an armored vehicle with a MG on it?

Asking for a friend....
Cosplaying like they are in iraqistan

Never know when they have to get it on with all those civilians that are criminals that haven’t been caught yet.




when gov fears citizens you have liberty
When citizens fear gov you have tyranny.


Something something bearcat <
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Not quite!

The LRAD mounts to tripod and CROWS (MG) mounts per their website.

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Also, per Bearcats website, it is indeed an MG mount.

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According to BearCat, you may need a MK19 for "defensive" police operations. Right....

Before you start making snarky remarks, know your gear. But, I would bet you still won't know how to use half your shit but will feel really good going out and pointing it at people because it makes your pee pee hard.


Back to AIs, hopefully in the hands of responsible citizens.
 
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<<<<<< Scoffs at the term "responsible citizen". I want to continue to be irresponsible, damnit. That's why I divest my children of their inheritance with my firearm purchases.



And I cosplay by putting my boots on and stepping directly in cow shit before I come home and walk around the kitchen until the wife yells at me.
 
Not quite!

The LRAD mounts to tripod and CROWS (MG) mounts per their website.

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Also, per Bearcats website, it is indeed an MG mount.

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According to BearCat, you may need a MK19 for "defensive" police operations. Right....

Before you start making snarky remarks, know your gear. But, I would bet you still won't know how to use half your shit but will feel really good going out and pointing it at people because it makes your pee pee hard.


Back to AIs, hopefully in the hands of responsible citizens.
I do pretty okay with my gear 🙂 Was never trained on the MK19 as an 11 back in the day, so 🤷🏻‍♂️

Anyway, more pics!
 

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Again, it isn't just about the bullet weight, but the bullet length as well that matters.

Plenty of folks ran the M40, M40A1, M40A3 and M40A5 out past 1000 yards just fine, which has a 1:12 twist barrel, and ran M118LR rounds, essentially Federal GMM SMK 175gr. I did reach out to a sniper instructor peer who has combat experience with the M40 rifles, who confirmed the distance and capability for me.

We also have @FUNCTIONAL with very direct experience running the M40. Sorry to call you out but it's important. Hell I want to share more of that shot data just as a solid reference...

There's no reason why the 1:12 Lothar Walther barrels aren't extremely capable. But, the right round needs to be chosen for it.

And so this circles right back to why I made my original post sharing the shot group: the Sierra 168gr TMK round with it's improved 9° boat tail seems to work best in this barrel, which I've so far tested in 20", and I have no doubt will perform equally well in my 24". My next range day I hope to get 300 round shot groups, and later, 700 round shot groups depending on wind.

I'll share all the images and data I have on this round. For us Yankees, the Federal GMM SMK 168gr & 175gr, and the Federal LE T308T 168gr, seem to be the most effective and cost conscious round to use in these barrels.

I don't have experience with Lapua or Berger rounds in these calibers, so I leave it to others to comment on what else shoots well. I invite it as this data is important for folks like us to have.

And yes, I read every single post in this forum regarding the Arctic Warfare and AT308 looking for ballistic data of factory rounds, and found excruciatingly little.

I hope the attached data helps for context. And I have much more data that shows how the length of Hornady rounds do not stabilize. I also tried the stability factor with a Berger 185gr round without success, but I'd entertain actually shooting it to see how it performs.
So I run the numbers for more projectiles and other barrel twists, I do know that bullet weight isn't really the issue it's length/bearing surface/ogive that all goes into, probably safe to say that high BC bullets need a faster twist.

The outcome is the same as before, other than SMKs (older bullet design, shorter, low BC*) a 1:12 is not a brilliant choice, especially if it's a short barrel. 1:11 is definitely better but still suffers with some of the very heavy/high BC bullets, and a 1:10 is basically good for anything.

It's worth point out that only the Berger Hybrids are actually unstable in the 1:12, everything else on orange is just marginally stable.
The biggest take away from this whole thing is how amazing the newer SMK designs are 169gr/200gr (also the 131gr .25cal, 130gr and 150gr 6.5mm) these things have massively improved BCs over the old SMK design, often have a higher BC than the same weight TMK yet are shorter and likely more forgiving on seating depth.

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I know I could've stream lined this table even more, but it is was it is.

Orange is marginal stability 1.0-1.5.
Red is unstable <1.0
Greyed out means fully stable (because the twist above (slower) was 100% stable at all speeds no point running the numbers at a tighter twist).
 
So I run the numbers for more projectiles and other barrel twists, I do know that bullet weight isn't really the issue it's length/bearing surface/ogive that all goes into, probably safe to say that high BC bullets need a faster twist.

The outcome is the same as before, other than SMKs (older bullet design, shorter, low BC*) a 1:12 is not a brilliant choice, especially if it's a short barrel. 1:11 is definitely better but still suffers with some of the very heavy/high BC bullets, and a 1:10 is basically good for anything.

It's worth point out that only the Berger Hybrids are actually unstable in the 1:12, everything else on orange is just marginally stable.
The biggest take away from this whole thing is how amazing the newer SMK designs are 169gr/200gr (also the 131gr .25cal, 130gr and 150gr 6.5mm) these things have massively improved BCs over the old SMK design, often have a higher BC than the same weight TMK yet are shorter and likely more forgiving on seating depth.

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I know I could've stream lined this table even more, but it is was it is.

Orange is marginal stability 1.0-1.5.
Red is unstable <1.0
Greyed out means fully stable (because the twist above (slower) was 100% stable at all speeds no point running the numbers at a tighter twist).
Well shit!

Imagine how good mine would shoot if I used stable bullets!!!
 
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Well shit!

Imagine how good mine would shoot if I used stable bullets!!!
I think it goes without saying if it shoots well who cares what the computer says.
I'm no expert but I believe you are probably just giving up some BC, the bullets are stable enough for accuracy.

I hope my LW 1:12 shoots as well as yours, I plan to run 168gr ELD-Ms rather than the 178s, more stable, a bit faster and similar ballistics (if I get a bit more speed). I'll be shooting 168gr SMKs to start with (factory ammo). I have a few rounds of Hornady match 168gr ELD-M to test out also.
 
I think it goes without saying if it shoots well who cares what the computer says.
I'm no expert but I believe you are probably just giving up some BC, the bullets are stable enough for accuracy.

I hope my LW 1:12 shoots as well as yours, I plan to run 168gr ELD-Ms rather than the 178s, more stable, a bit faster and similar ballistics (if I get a bit more speed). I'll be shooting 168gr SMKs to start with (factory ammo). I have a few rounds of Hornady match 168gr ELD-M to test out also.
I should add if I haven’t already that this rifle shooting 178 ELDX is a crop damage hunting rifle. So shooting deer inside 600 for majority of its life. I haven’t shot it a bunch further to see how it truly stacks up at distance. I will be grouping some distances near 500 in coming month when I can access my range area. I’ll share more info then. Just testing a couple charge weights of IMR 4064 expanding of previous testing I did

That said I have an 18” 1:10 Bartlein ready to replace it when needed and would buy a 1:10 over a 1:12 any day. This is just what was on the rifle when I bought it

I’ve probably put 800-1000 rounds through this barrel since I bought it. Had over 3,000 rounds when I got it

Couple bore scope pics. Couple rough spots haha
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So I run the numbers for more projectiles and other barrel twists, I do know that bullet weight isn't really the issue it's length/bearing surface/ogive that all goes into, probably safe to say that high BC bullets need a faster twist.

The outcome is the same as before, other than SMKs (older bullet design, shorter, low BC*) a 1:12 is not a brilliant choice, especially if it's a short barrel. 1:11 is definitely better but still suffers with some of the very heavy/high BC bullets, and a 1:10 is basically good for anything.

It's worth point out that only the Berger Hybrids are actually unstable in the 1:12, everything else on orange is just marginally stable.
The biggest take away from this whole thing is how amazing the newer SMK designs are 169gr/200gr (also the 131gr .25cal, 130gr and 150gr 6.5mm) these things have massively improved BCs over the old SMK design, often have a higher BC than the same weight TMK yet are shorter and likely more forgiving on seating depth.

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I know I could've stream lined this table even more, but it is was it is.

Orange is marginal stability 1.0-1.5.
Red is unstable <1.0
Greyed out means fully stable (because the twist above (slower) was 100% stable at all speeds no point running the numbers at a tighter twist).
Anything orange (1.5 and lower) I don't consider stable enough to shoot.
 
March 1.5-15?
Yeah that is an option, I was keen on a DFP model but the mixed reviews put me off.

I'm going to use the LRTS for a bit (with the 308 barrel) but might end up with an LPVO for hunting use.
I haven't even shot it yet, so will starting shooting before I worry to much about scopes.

That's if the rifle sees much hunting, it weights 14.5lb as pictured...
 
This is a reason why I have gone down a rabbit hole researching the M40 with @FUNCTIONAL due to the extensive use of 1:12 twist barrel.

That said, I have a former USMC Scout Sniper and current Army B4 Sniper telling me they "... ran [M40s] out to 1000 yards regularly." Using M118LR. And 1000 yards consistent sounds mighty fine in my book.

But Frank is right: 1:12 leaves a lot on the table, and 1:10 get practically everything done, with .308/7.62 precision rounds.
 
Last word on barrel twist (at least until I shoot the damn thing) was this comment from Frank Green in another thread, says it all really, given the choice 1:12 twist is leaving a lot on the table.

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It's interesting that Frank still shoots 308win. One would think barrel wizards shoot exotic calibers all the time. But I'm actually happy to see this, it's validating.