We have about 2 acres of gravel and landscaped area at our place that is constantly growing weeds. I’m fine nuking the area. Wife likes organic. Are there any good options to dump in the 4wheeler mounted sprayer and be rid of em? Mixture of broadleaf and prairie grasses, clover and a bunch of other little bastards
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Roundup + Remedy. Remedy will handle yhe stuff with brushy character. Roundup will dry out everything else. Neither are organic. Both work well.
Check your county weed control office to see if you can buy at a discounted price from them.
Check your county weed control office to see if you can buy at a discounted price from them.
I use 2 4 D. It's a herbicide that won't kill plants, just weeds.
Spray at least a couple days before it rains and weeds B Gone
Spray at least a couple days before it rains and weeds B Gone
So, weeds aren't plants? What are they then?
2,4,D is a selective herbicide that only kills broadleaf plants, it won't kill most grasses.
Best time of day to spray 2,4,D is early morning or late evening when temps are cooler and wind is minimal.
Under the right conditions the vapors can drift for miles and damage /kill broadleaf crops, trees, grapevines, ect. so be careful with it.
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1 gallon vinegar
1 tablespoon of dish soap
1 cup salt
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Tried that on the weeds and ivy in my yard a few years back. I've never seen anything work so fast. Literally an hour later everything had changed colors and looked like it was dying.
A week and a half later it all looked perfectly healthy, like it never happened. lol
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I use Cornerstone for a vegetation killer. Ranger works but Cornerstone seems to last longer.
Yeah, he said his wife likes "organic" so that's the best bang for the buck organic solution I know.
I use it in the flowerbeds but never paid attention to whether or not I'm spraying the same weeds over and over again. I mostly use it in the beds because it's weak compared to other options and is less harmful to the plants I want to keep.
Some things like nugrasses will look like they're dying even if you use a glyphosate product or something like Groundclear then pop back up. But this is the kind of stuff I use where I want to scorch the earth.
The best bang for the buck products I've tried to controlling lawn weeds are a brand called IMAGE. They have multiple options and come premixed with the stuff that will knock out nutsedges so you don't have ato have an extra chemical laying around.
Looks like the only active ingredient in Cornerstone is glyphosate. They have one that's 41% and one that's 53%.
If you shop around for just plain old glyphosate you might be able to find the the exact same thing you're using for fewer $$'s.
Honcho K6, Cornerstone Plus = Generic Roundup.
Ranger Pro = Generic Roundup Pro
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But you have to use “cleaning” vinegar, 30%. Way stronger than cooking vinegar which is maybe 5%.
Don’t be down wind when spraying it.
Also, it has no residual effect.
Can’t tell from this description what you are wanting to accomplish. Do you want to kill everything and make it look like the face of the moon or just manage the broadleafs?
A lot of people have no grasp of how much vinegar or boiling water it would take to treat 2 acres. Organic methods are going to be limited in their effectiveness.
Two pronged attack would probably be best if you have other areas where you have perennial vegetation growing nearby that you value.
First I would use a pre-emergent like pendimethalin, Pendulum Aquacap is a good one if you have a sprayer already. This will control the annuals from the get go and will help with phase two. Get that done asap as the ground temps are quickly going up and new weed seeds will start germinating very soon if not already, depending on your location. Most pre-emergents need some form of precipitation/ irrigation to activate them so keep that in mind.
Second phase would be to follow that up with some form of Glyphosate multiple times throughout the year.
Another option would be to use Pramitol on it and completely sterilize it. Only do this if you dont care about other surrounding vegetation that may catch runoff. It will sterilize the ground for up to a year. This one can get expensive especially with the sheer area you have to cover.
None of the options above are organic but lets be honest here, your desire to kill every living plant on a two acre tract of land isnt exactly going to earn you any EPA certificates of achievement anyway.
Two pronged attack would probably be best if you have other areas where you have perennial vegetation growing nearby that you value.
First I would use a pre-emergent like pendimethalin, Pendulum Aquacap is a good one if you have a sprayer already. This will control the annuals from the get go and will help with phase two. Get that done asap as the ground temps are quickly going up and new weed seeds will start germinating very soon if not already, depending on your location. Most pre-emergents need some form of precipitation/ irrigation to activate them so keep that in mind.
Second phase would be to follow that up with some form of Glyphosate multiple times throughout the year.
Another option would be to use Pramitol on it and completely sterilize it. Only do this if you dont care about other surrounding vegetation that may catch runoff. It will sterilize the ground for up to a year. This one can get expensive especially with the sheer area you have to cover.
None of the options above are organic but lets be honest here, your desire to kill every living plant on a two acre tract of land isnt exactly going to earn you any EPA certificates of achievement anyway.
Will this mix work for lawn weed control on Bermuda grass or will it also kill the grass?
Keep in mind if you are on a well anything you put down will migrate into your well. Glyphosate residue will stay in the ground for decades.
I use Cornerstone which I was told was the generic for Roundup but don't know for sure. I get it at the Co-op for about $60+tax in a 2.5g jug. I mix it at 4-6oz for a 2 gal sprayer around the house. It takes a couple days for it show any effects, but usually last about a month or so.
Generic glyphosate on a windless day.
I used to poo poo the dangers…… but wear a respirator and gloves please. It isn’t something you want to breathe.
A squirt of dish soap in the mix will help it stick.
24D is for spraying your lawn to kill broadleafs but is very effective on ivy and woody invasive plants.
Note* I am very concerned these days about chemicals, especially what we eat. Glyphosate when handled smartly is ok and goes inert once in the ground but don’t take chances breathing it or getting it on your skin. It is linked to bad trouble in your body.
I used to poo poo the dangers…… but wear a respirator and gloves please. It isn’t something you want to breathe.
A squirt of dish soap in the mix will help it stick.
24D is for spraying your lawn to kill broadleafs but is very effective on ivy and woody invasive plants.
Note* I am very concerned these days about chemicals, especially what we eat. Glyphosate when handled smartly is ok and goes inert once in the ground but don’t take chances breathing it or getting it on your skin. It is linked to bad trouble in your body.
Wrong.
Glyphosate breaks down in soil pretty quick, it has a half life of 7-60 days on average.
While it generally breaks down quickly it can persist in the soil for up to 6-8 months under certain conditions, but not for decades.
As for getting into a well, glyphosate binds tightly to soil particles so it's highly unlikely it would leach into groundwater.
Would you mind referring me to literature showing this (that isn't from a glyphosate selling company) as my previous research showed me long persistence.
I would really love to be wrong because I would nuke a whole bunch of stuff if I am wrong.
41% glyphosate will kill everything and keep it dead for about 5 weeks (it's just the concentrated active ingredient in Roundup). However it is deactivated by soil, so it is not a pre emergent and stuff that hasn't come up yet won't be affected.
Remedy / RM43 will kill everything for about 5 months instead of weeks because it is also a pre emergent. RM43 is what I use on my fence rows.
2, 4-D is good when you want to kill weeds, but not grass. I go through about 36 gallons of the stuff every year just in my pastures.
Remedy / RM43 will kill everything for about 5 months instead of weeks because it is also a pre emergent. RM43 is what I use on my fence rows.
2, 4-D is good when you want to kill weeds, but not grass. I go through about 36 gallons of the stuff every year just in my pastures.
I’m beginning to think it’ll have to be a multi pronged approach. The R43 I’ll probably do on the majority of the gravel. There’s a few trees and some grassy/sculpted areas with different rock and desirable plants. I like the idea of pre emergent napalm on the swaths, but need to not kill the stuff we want to keep. I’m not entirely sold on the organic route, but also don’t want to breathe the stuff that actually works in.
It's tough to beat Glyphosate for non selective weed control.
I would run 2qt/acre at 20gpa.
Do you have hard water? Add a water conditioner or AMS (17#/100gallons)
Generics might have different surfactant loadings so you might need to add a NIS.
Roundup resistance is common and may or may not be relevant in your scenario!
It will not have any residual activity so make sure plants are up and actively growing. (but not too large!)
You might want to plan on a second application as some plants might not be completely killed and recover or might have been shielded from the spray by larger plants and leaves or be part of later flushes.
Do you have Water Hemp or Amaranth species. Assume that you will be dealing with multiple flushes throughout the season!
2.4-D and or Glufosinate (Liberty) could be useful options as well.
Woody plants? Try Crossbow (Triclopyr + 2.4-D)
It will have grazing, replant and slaughter restrictions.
As far as toxicity goes. The LD50s on Roundup are very high and those of us that conducted research with it considered it the safest product on the market. (Many researchers didn't even bother with personal protective equipment)
I would run 2qt/acre at 20gpa.
Do you have hard water? Add a water conditioner or AMS (17#/100gallons)
Generics might have different surfactant loadings so you might need to add a NIS.
Roundup resistance is common and may or may not be relevant in your scenario!
It will not have any residual activity so make sure plants are up and actively growing. (but not too large!)
You might want to plan on a second application as some plants might not be completely killed and recover or might have been shielded from the spray by larger plants and leaves or be part of later flushes.
Do you have Water Hemp or Amaranth species. Assume that you will be dealing with multiple flushes throughout the season!
2.4-D and or Glufosinate (Liberty) could be useful options as well.
Woody plants? Try Crossbow (Triclopyr + 2.4-D)
It will have grazing, replant and slaughter restrictions.
As far as toxicity goes. The LD50s on Roundup are very high and those of us that conducted research with it considered it the safest product on the market. (Many researchers didn't even bother with personal protective equipment)
