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    SCAR MK20S Limited Release

    It's funny how the group think evolves in the gun world. Years ago, "conventional gun wisdom" told us that the DI M4/M16's were a very unreliable and outdated design. Supposed incidents of malfunction during the Vietnam conflict were cited as proof. There were similar stories being passed...
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    Shorty 308, To Thread Or Not To Thread

    I have a 24" barrel (.308 SPR) and adding a brake was a huge help in mitigating the recoil and allowing for faster follow-up shots. I'd say if the OP has any intention of ever using that rifle for long range course work or competitions, adding a brake is a no-brainer. As for the increased...
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    SCAR MK20S Limited Release

    What I find so interesting about these types of threads is that the people who are making the loudest, most negative comments are usually the ones who have little to no experience with the weapon in question. And considering that this version of the SCAR hasn't even gotten into consumer hands...
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    SCAR MK20S Limited Release

    Also, let's have an apples-to-apples comparison here: A SCAR 17 fetches about the same on gunbroker as the 7.62 offerings from LWRC and KAC: $2,800-$3,700 depending on condition and options. Some of the KAC rifles are actually a bit more expensive. This SCAR 20 package for $5,500 is just...
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    SCAR MK20S Limited Release

    You're not stating facts. You're stating opinions. Claiming that the AR-10 outperforms the SCAR-H is not a fact, it's an opinion, one that is based on a series of subjective evaluations. This wasn't covered above. All you said was 'yes' in your previous post; you didn't provide any details...
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    SCAR MK20S Limited Release

    I think you're a bit biased here. Have you even done side-by-side comparisons? If so, how many rounds did you fire through each weapon and in what kind of conditions. Also, which factory-produced AR-10 consistently produces less than .5 MOA? The SCAR has plenty of real-world credibility...
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    SCAR MK20S Limited Release

    Have you done a side-by-side comparison of the AR-10 and SCAR H? The price is expensive for the SCAR, but FN also carries a lot of credibility and cache in the firearms industry. And I haven't heard any significant complaints about its service record with the LEO and military communities.
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    Combo hunting/range action suggestions

    I think it all depends on what constitutes "hunting." If all you're doing is walking a few hundred yards to a tree stand or calling in some predators, then a moderately heavy barrel and stock may not be a big hindrance. Indeed, such attributes may be preferred for certain types of hunts. If...
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    Solid beginner's bolt gun for learning shoot long range?

    You're the one who claimed to be done with the conversation, twice. Now you're dropping meme's instead of logical responses. Maybe you should follow your own advice...
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    Solid beginner's bolt gun for learning shoot long range?

    Okay, but continuing with this car analogy: Do you need the latest and most expensive sports car in order to go to trackdays and get proficient at technical driving? A lot of people would say: "no." In fact, a lot of people advocate getting somewhat older car because it offers a cheaper cost...
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    Solid beginner's bolt gun for learning shoot long range?

    Your counterpoints really don't hold up to scrutiny in my opinion. Saying that the barrel life and ammo cost issues are a wash between the two just isn't accurate. There is this trending mentality within the firearms community, which you're reinforcing, that a new shooter needs to spend the...
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    Solid beginner's bolt gun for learning shoot long range?

    This is getting kind of petty here. All my comparison was doing was illustrating that .308 barrels are longer-lived relative to 6.5CM. Either one is well-suited to PRS, assuming good construction. The 6.5 CM barrel wears quicker because of the nature of 6.5CM loading. Professional or...
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    Solid beginner's bolt gun for learning shoot long range?

    You're absolutely right. But this mentality that new shooters need 6.5CM in order to do well is where I disagree. Unless they practice and learn the proper fundamentals, they're going to get their butts kicked regardless of which cartridge they choose. I'd almost argue it's a moot point until...
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    Solid beginner's bolt gun for learning shoot long range?

    No, I don't think you get what I'm saying. For the top-level competitors, the advantages of 6.5CM might be worth it. For the average shooter, choosing 6.5CM over .308 will not make or break their performance. I've seen very good shooters use .308 and dominate local competitions where most...
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    Will FN...

    That's just classic FN tactics....The A5xp is the newest SPR variant, and of course very few have been made, so the pricing is high for those few that are out there. There are pre-XP SPR's (older A1's, A5's) that can be found for ~$1,300-$1,600, which is decent considering what you're getting...
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    Solid beginner's bolt gun for learning shoot long range?

    Barrel life is much longer on .308. A good .308 barrel won't see a significant accuracy degradation for at least several thousand rounds, likely more. Basic .308 ammo is much cheaper (a simple comparison on ammo seek will demonstrate that). Match-grade ammo for both will cost about the same...
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    Range Report .308 Hornady TAP Ammo

    I've heard from others that Hornady isn't all that forthcoming with regards to their LEO-only TAP ammo.
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    Range Report .308 Hornady TAP Ammo

    So 60 more fps? Is that due to a different powder being used? Is there any difference in the bullet itself?
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    Range Report .308 Hornady TAP Ammo

    Can someone explain the differences between .308 Hornady Tap ammo marked for LEO only (informally referred to as Red Box TAP ammo) and .308 Hornady TAP FPD (for personal defense) which is marketed to civilians (informally referred to as Black Box TAP ammo)? On the surface, it seems the...
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    FN TSR XP .308 Project

    Going the AI-mag route has its advantages. More features and parts availability, generally for a lower price than what is offered from FN. The downside is that the action will have to be modified to accept that mag system. Honestly, for a TSR I don't know how much money you'll really want to...
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