I have the 5.11 rush 72 for my range/match pack. It's way to big to be a day pack and is not even close to being discreet. My BOB for the house is a Kelty ROAM, truck pack is a Kelty Redwing 32, and a Kelty Redwing 50 for hiking and camping. Just go ahead and rule out anything with molle stapes...