Re: SemiAuto, 6 groups, 5shot each, 30 round SHOOTOUT!
Ok, ok... lets be respectful. One thing is for damn sure, JP makes a damn good rifle. There is no doubt about that IMO. Hell, I would get an upper for my lower in a heartbeat if I had the money to burn. I would seriously consider it an honor for someone from the JPE team to run a 6group, 5shot each, 30bullet target as per the OP. Regardless of brandname, all rifles are welcome to "walk the walk" just as long as they are semi-auto. Clark, do you think it would be possible if you could hand pick one of JP's best semi-auto rifles and run this test as per the original post rules? We would all love to see the results, especially the current / future owners of JP rifles.
Thank you for making this post. As for me, I find this test no easy walk in the park for semi-autos. It might be for a bolt action rifle, but there is just something "different" about semi-auto rifles when it comes to this test IMO. Some of the results are rather interesting for damn sure just as long as everyone is honest.
First and foremost, the main reason why I made the original post is I figured it would be down right fun and a real challenge. How stupid small can you make that 5shot bug hole, 6times in a row??? I find it no easy task. I love the fact my rifle can be stupid accurate one second, and can mow down a target on the second..... I'm just a semi-auto kind of guy. I just don't get into bolt action rifles. That is just me. Second, I was also down right sick of people talking a bunch of BS and backing it up with no pics,,,,,, or some hand picked picture of a bug hole target from a billion other single group 5shot (and sometimes friggen 3shots, oh lord) targets saying they do .5moa ALL DAY LONG...... I invite all manufactures to walk the walk. Until then, it is just talk IMO regardless of the person's abilities and the rifle's potential,,, with the type of ammo they are using as a sideshow.
One thing is for damn sure, the amount of people saying they do ".5moa ALL DAY LONG" sure has gone down considerably since the inception of this forum post I think... I see a lot more "I do sub-moa" all day long now,,, giving those that just purchased AND shot the same rifle a little bit better perspective of their rifle's abilities and not wondering why it isn't........................ shooting .5moa ALL DAY LONG.........
Is it possible for a semi-auto to do .5moa for 6groups / 5shots each?? hell yes! BUT i've found it really damn hard to do so....
Enough talk, it is time to walk the walk. Lets see what you can do.......... Bring it. I welcome the challenge. Regardless, you've already said you would do it!! <span style="color: #3333FF">You've crossed the line and there is no going back now, hehehe</span>:
<span style="color: #009900"> "I will get some groups on paper to see how well it does and try to get John Paul to post some also." </span>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: clark k</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just found out about this thread from John Paul a few mins ago and it looks to me that you guys need to be shooting JPE rifles. I have a LRP 07 .308 that is a sub min rifle all day with M118LR 175gr and thats every time I have shot it on paper. I haven't shot anything else in it or reloaded for it so I don't know if it likes anything else.
I have shot several groups that were .5 moa during shooting sessions at FT Bragg and would put it up against most custom bolt guns for shooting groups or steel.
As for my JPE LRP 07 6.5 Creedmoor I haven't shoot it on paper much but John Paul and I did win the last PMG Team Sniper match in Tenn.with it the first time I ever shot the rifle. I had never fired a rd out of it till the first stage of the match and it couldn't have shot any better. I did get to put it on paper this past weekend at the range and the first group was around .75 moa and the 2nd group was around .3 moa. Thats with Hornady Factory 140 AMAX at 100 yds.
I would shoot my JPE PSC 11 .223 with 77gr SMK in most any sniper match out to 750 yds. I have shoot clay pigdons out to 750 with it but haven't shoot it much on paper either. The last groups I shot were around .5 moa with 77 SMK and .75 with 62 FMJ.
Thats not bad for a 18" bbl rifle and it realy shines out at around 500 yds as I have shot a bunch of 2.5 moa to 3.0 moa groups.
I will get some groups on paper to see how well it does and try to get John Paul to post some also.
If you ever shoot a JPE rifle you will see what I am talking about and thats no BS.
Clark K
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