First off this is not say that one is better than the other, just a report on actual observations. Picked up some scraps from a butcher shop to compare 10mm and .45, I love both so again, I'm not trying to ruffle any feathers with this. Glock 20 shooting 155 grain Gold Dot at 1500fps and Sig P250 4" barrel shooting 185 grain Gold Dot at 1100fps. Shooting at 6 yards with target placed on top of a 5 gallon bucket. 10mm completely mangled the scraps and blew it off the bucket. .45 hardly moved it at all and did not have a lot of extra tissue damage beyond the wound channel. Both targets were almost identical in size, weight and appearance. I could almost put my fist in the wound channel the 10mm left, not to mention it showered me with debris. I love the .45 but it clearly does not have the same effect. Thought I would post this for anyone who cares. 10mm is not that popular, ammo is tough to get but its one hell of sidearm.
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Re: 10mm Rocks
+1 I have been in love with the Colt Delta Elite's for a long time. One of these days I'm going to pick one up.
+1 I have been in love with the Colt Delta Elite's for a long time. One of these days I'm going to pick one up.
Re: 10mm Rocks
Yeah,
I've loved the 10MM sence a friend of mine bought a 1006 back in the 90's. Man you could load up wadcutters in that thing and it looked like someone used a whole punch on the target just left perfect wholes. I bought me a G20C last year don't get to shoot it much but realy like the gun. Should have took a deer with it last year. About 100# doe right under my stand. I could have took her with the Glock but tried to get on her with my 30-30 and she spooked.
Yeah,
I've loved the 10MM sence a friend of mine bought a 1006 back in the 90's. Man you could load up wadcutters in that thing and it looked like someone used a whole punch on the target just left perfect wholes. I bought me a G20C last year don't get to shoot it much but realy like the gun. Should have took a deer with it last year. About 100# doe right under my stand. I could have took her with the Glock but tried to get on her with my 30-30 and she spooked.
Re: 10mm Rocks
You could always throw the 45 super in the mix.
Were you shooting handloaded 10mm? I was thinking that Cor-bon and Buffalo Bore were the only loaders of full power 10mm.
You could always throw the 45 super in the mix.
Were you shooting handloaded 10mm? I was thinking that Cor-bon and Buffalo Bore were the only loaders of full power 10mm.
Re: 10mm Rocks
Yep, Love the 10mm. Got a S&W model 610 revolver. Never shot any scrap meat with it, but it definitely hotter than a 45.
Yep, Love the 10mm. Got a S&W model 610 revolver. Never shot any scrap meat with it, but it definitely hotter than a 45.
Re: 10mm Rocks
I'm a huge 10mm fan. I carry a Modded G29SF daily and hunt with both a DW PM7 and 6" Fusion Hunter. I load 135s for personal defense and hunt with 180XTPs or 200gr Leads. All loaded over 800x or Blue Dot.
I'm a huge 10mm fan. I carry a Modded G29SF daily and hunt with both a DW PM7 and 6" Fusion Hunter. I load 135s for personal defense and hunt with 180XTPs or 200gr Leads. All loaded over 800x or Blue Dot.
Re: 10mm Rocks
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BOLTRIPPER</div><div class="ubbcode-body">aren't there chillren starving in NY ? </div></div>
I don't know what you guys eat in Dallas, but I wouldn't feed what I was shooting to anyone but a dog. I've heard great things about Texas cooking, so whenever you want to have me over for dinner and few long range shooting lessons, Im all for it. Im sure you could teach me plenty.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BOLTRIPPER</div><div class="ubbcode-body">aren't there chillren starving in NY ? </div></div>
I don't know what you guys eat in Dallas, but I wouldn't feed what I was shooting to anyone but a dog. I've heard great things about Texas cooking, so whenever you want to have me over for dinner and few long range shooting lessons, Im all for it. Im sure you could teach me plenty.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: [email protected]</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You could always throw the 45 super in the mix.
Were you shooting handloaded 10mm? I was thinking that Cor-bon and Buffalo Bore were the only loaders of full power 10mm. </div></div>
I may try the 45 Super in the Sig. Doubletap ammunition is producing the hottest 10mm and .45 that I know of. The Super from Buffalo Bore isn't much hotter than DT's .45 but I will look into maybe changing the spring in the Sig before shooting it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: [email protected]</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You could always throw the 45 super in the mix.
Were you shooting handloaded 10mm? I was thinking that Cor-bon and Buffalo Bore were the only loaders of full power 10mm. </div></div>
I may try the 45 Super in the Sig. Doubletap ammunition is producing the hottest 10mm and .45 that I know of. The Super from Buffalo Bore isn't much hotter than DT's .45 but I will look into maybe changing the spring in the Sig before shooting it.
Re: 10mm Rocks
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 300WSM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">probably why we hunt deer with .30 cal projectiles at 2500-3500 fps. Instead of 2.00" stuff moving at 800fps.
same as 10mm vs .45
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With the right bullet on thin skinned, lightly boned animals, velocity by itself produces some pretty nasty wounds.
.45 is still 2nd on my list as diameter and bullet weight have a calming effect in my carry gun.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 300WSM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">probably why we hunt deer with .30 cal projectiles at 2500-3500 fps. Instead of 2.00" stuff moving at 800fps.
With the right bullet on thin skinned, lightly boned animals, velocity by itself produces some pretty nasty wounds.
.45 is still 2nd on my list as diameter and bullet weight have a calming effect in my carry gun.
Re: 10mm Rocks
DT loads the hottest "factory" ammo out there for it.
I love my 10mm, I have a G20 and a G29 and they're awesome weapons. I got a chipmunk with the 29 yesterday at about 20 feet.
I was moving things around on the bench at the range yesterday and he walked out from the weeds right in front of me. Not much left after the 175 Silvertip hit him.
I generally shoot handloads, rarely do I shoot factory ammo due to it being about $1/round. I am awaiting a new recoil spring for the G20 right now to get some more from the case.
DT loads the hottest "factory" ammo out there for it.
I love my 10mm, I have a G20 and a G29 and they're awesome weapons. I got a chipmunk with the 29 yesterday at about 20 feet.
I was moving things around on the bench at the range yesterday and he walked out from the weeds right in front of me. Not much left after the 175 Silvertip hit him.
I generally shoot handloads, rarely do I shoot factory ammo due to it being about $1/round. I am awaiting a new recoil spring for the G20 right now to get some more from the case.
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Loved the .45 and mostly all I ever shoot, but after shooting a Delta years ago just had to have one. Then I had to have another and when you touch off a hot 10mm at the range you sure get a lot of looks trying to figure out how that 1911 makes soo much noise and fire LOL Delta top right and Fusion LS10 on the bottom. Handload all ammo and is fairly cheap to shoot.
Loved the .45 and mostly all I ever shoot, but after shooting a Delta years ago just had to have one. Then I had to have another and when you touch off a hot 10mm at the range you sure get a lot of looks trying to figure out how that 1911 makes soo much noise and fire LOL Delta top right and Fusion LS10 on the bottom. Handload all ammo and is fairly cheap to shoot.
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I run 2 10mm's both on Caspian parts. One is a standard Gov't in size and the other is an officers frame and commander slide. Deffinately know when you lit off the DT 165's, and you do get some strange looks.
I run 2 10mm's both on Caspian parts. One is a standard Gov't in size and the other is an officers frame and commander slide. Deffinately know when you lit off the DT 165's, and you do get some strange looks.
Re: 10mm Rocks
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rhys</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I run 2 10mm's both on Caspian parts. One is a standard Gov't in size and the other is an officers frame and commander slide. Deffinately know when you lit off the DT 165's, and you do get some strange looks. </div></div>
Those strange looks are usually followed by "Is that some kind of auto mag?"
Well, in a way... yes. LOL
The 10mm is awesome, I'm totally hooked on it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rhys</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I run 2 10mm's both on Caspian parts. One is a standard Gov't in size and the other is an officers frame and commander slide. Deffinately know when you lit off the DT 165's, and you do get some strange looks. </div></div>
Those strange looks are usually followed by "Is that some kind of auto mag?"
Well, in a way... yes. LOL
The 10mm is awesome, I'm totally hooked on it.
Re: 10mm Rocks
So will a .22 Mike, but I wouldn't want my life dependant on it. We aren't measuring the effect in degrees of deadness, so much as a calibers ability to rapidly incapacitate a target.
So will a .22 Mike, but I wouldn't want my life dependant on it. We aren't measuring the effect in degrees of deadness, so much as a calibers ability to rapidly incapacitate a target.
Re: 10mm Rocks
Since this is going to turn into a pissing match soon, I thought this was appropriate.
And FWIW, I'll take a 10mm over a 45 almost any time. The only time I'd take a 45 before a 10mm is when I want to shoot something suppressed, then I'd take the 45 because the hottest loads with a 230gr bullet aren't supersonic and come out of a can with 100% of the lethality and all of the quiet.
Since this is going to turn into a pissing match soon, I thought this was appropriate.
And FWIW, I'll take a 10mm over a 45 almost any time. The only time I'd take a 45 before a 10mm is when I want to shoot something suppressed, then I'd take the 45 because the hottest loads with a 230gr bullet aren't supersonic and come out of a can with 100% of the lethality and all of the quiet.
Re: 10mm Rocks
Now that's funny! You should animate it and stick it on YouTube.
I had a 10mm DE and it was great. I shot some bowling pin matches and it really blew them off the table. Way more smack down than 45.
Now that's funny! You should animate it and stick it on YouTube.
I had a 10mm DE and it was great. I shot some bowling pin matches and it really blew them off the table. Way more smack down than 45.
Re: 10mm Rocks
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shoot4fun</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now that's funny! You should animate it and stick it on YouTube.
I had a 10mm DE and it was great. I shot some bowling pin matches and it really blew them off the table. Way more smack down than 45. </div></div>
I can't take credit for it, I stole it from the 10mm forum on AR armory.com
I shot some steel poppers last weekend with my 10mm, it was everything I'd remembered... hits them like Kirsti Allie hits the buffet bar.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shoot4fun</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now that's funny! You should animate it and stick it on YouTube.
I had a 10mm DE and it was great. I shot some bowling pin matches and it really blew them off the table. Way more smack down than 45. </div></div>
I can't take credit for it, I stole it from the 10mm forum on AR armory.com
I shot some steel poppers last weekend with my 10mm, it was everything I'd remembered... hits them like Kirsti Allie hits the buffet bar.
Re: 10mm Rocks
I love the DT 180 and 200 grain ammo.
Out of a G20 with a 6" barrel shoots very tight groups.
I can't wait to connect with a deer, or groundhog with it.
I got a doe a few years ago with Pro Load 10mm 180's(I think).
It was a broadside shot went through a rib and vertebrae and kept on going.
45 Super out of my USP was pretty impressive also but the recoil was heavier. I can get back on target faster and more accurately with the Glock.
I love the DT 180 and 200 grain ammo.
Out of a G20 with a 6" barrel shoots very tight groups.
I can't wait to connect with a deer, or groundhog with it.
I got a doe a few years ago with Pro Load 10mm 180's(I think).
It was a broadside shot went through a rib and vertebrae and kept on going.
45 Super out of my USP was pretty impressive also but the recoil was heavier. I can get back on target faster and more accurately with the Glock.
Re: 10mm Rocks
10MM's are AWESOME!!
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Heard the Navy is gonna start to issue'm as back up's on the next satellite shoot down.
10MM's are AWESOME!!
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Heard the Navy is gonna start to issue'm as back up's on the next satellite shoot down.
Re: 10mm Rocks
GN,
Man I love the way that looks with the lonewolf slide and barrel. How much did accurancy improve from stock set-up.
GN,
Man I love the way that looks with the lonewolf slide and barrel. How much did accurancy improve from stock set-up.
Re: 10mm Rocks
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ghogs Nightmare</div><div class="ubbcode-body">10MM's are AWESOME!!
Heard the Navy is gonna start to issue'm as back up's on the next satellite shoot down. </div></div>
Hahahahah...
Nice long slide, is that a complete slide assembly from LWD?
Banks-
10mm factory ammo runs about $1/round for Win 175gr Silvertips and Double Tap 165's run about 80 cents a round.
If you get a 10mm, you should get the stuff to load it, if you're not a reloader, this caliber costs as much as a 308 does to shoot factory ammo, so start loading.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ghogs Nightmare</div><div class="ubbcode-body">10MM's are AWESOME!!
Heard the Navy is gonna start to issue'm as back up's on the next satellite shoot down. </div></div>
Hahahahah...
Nice long slide, is that a complete slide assembly from LWD?
Banks-
10mm factory ammo runs about $1/round for Win 175gr Silvertips and Double Tap 165's run about 80 cents a round.
If you get a 10mm, you should get the stuff to load it, if you're not a reloader, this caliber costs as much as a 308 does to shoot factory ammo, so start loading.
Re: 10mm Rocks
I have the G29SF and G20SF. The SF does make a difference. I love both of those pistols. Let me know if you need ammo. I load it on a Dillon 650.
I have the G29SF and G20SF. The SF does make a difference. I love both of those pistols. Let me know if you need ammo. I load it on a Dillon 650.
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I plan to try a 10mm on a deer this year if the opportunity presents itself. Using a Glock for now but like the Fusion longslide. That Lone Wolf conversion for the Glock is interesting too. Need to research some more.
I plan to try a 10mm on a deer this year if the opportunity presents itself. Using a Glock for now but like the Fusion longslide. That Lone Wolf conversion for the Glock is interesting too. Need to research some more.
Re: 10mm Rocks
I'm a 10mm KoolAid drinker as well. Olympic 10mm, DW, & G20 and a few others. I'd really like to play with one of the Fusions some time.
As soon as VLTOR releases the new Bren Ten, I'll have to pick one of them up. Hopefully it will be before Christmas.
I'm a 10mm KoolAid drinker as well. Olympic 10mm, DW, & G20 and a few others. I'd really like to play with one of the Fusions some time.
As soon as VLTOR releases the new Bren Ten, I'll have to pick one of them up. Hopefully it will be before Christmas.
Re: 10mm Rocks
Damn I bet that M&P gets the big bills right on out of your back pocket, and I thought my G20 was expenise to shoot.
Have to say the M&P is bad to the bone.
Damn I bet that M&P gets the big bills right on out of your back pocket, and I thought my G20 was expenise to shoot.
Have to say the M&P is bad to the bone.
Re: 10mm Rocks
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MLC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">ogs, what velocities are you getting out of the OLY upper? </div></div>
If my experience with carbine 9's is any clue, I'm betting he's getting close to 1700fps with a 180gr bullet...
Pretty sweet tool, I've oft dreamt of a 10mm carbine.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MLC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">ogs, what velocities are you getting out of the OLY upper? </div></div>
If my experience with carbine 9's is any clue, I'm betting he's getting close to 1700fps with a 180gr bullet...
Pretty sweet tool, I've oft dreamt of a 10mm carbine.
Re: 10mm Rocks
I just posted up a feeler for a group buy on some Starline 10mm brass in the group buy section. Let me know if anyone is interested by posting in that thread. Thanks!
I just posted up a feeler for a group buy on some Starline 10mm brass in the group buy section. Let me know if anyone is interested by posting in that thread. Thanks!
Re: 10mm Rocks
The 10mm is the most versatile semi-auto handgun cartridge around, but it also makes a great carbine round too!
The 10mm is the most versatile semi-auto handgun cartridge around, but it also makes a great carbine round too!
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Damn it. I did not need to see this post. I have been thinking really hard about getting a G20.
Damn it. I did not need to see this post. I have been thinking really hard about getting a G20.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sideshowbob</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Damn it. I did not need to see this post. I have been thinking really hard about getting a G20. </div></div>
You should stop thinking about it and start getting it...
Chad, I just bought 1000 pieces 6 weeks ago or I'd jump on that with you, thanks for the offer, I'm sure some would take you up on it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sideshowbob</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Damn it. I did not need to see this post. I have been thinking really hard about getting a G20. </div></div>
You should stop thinking about it and start getting it...
Chad, I just bought 1000 pieces 6 weeks ago or I'd jump on that with you, thanks for the offer, I'm sure some would take you up on it.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bohem</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ghogs Nightmare</div><div class="ubbcode-body">10MM's are AWESOME!!
Heard the Navy is gonna start to issue'm as back up's on the next satellite shoot down. </div></div>
Hahahahah...
Nice long slide, is that a complete slide assembly from LWD?
Banks-
10mm factory ammo runs about $1/round for Win 175gr Silvertips and Double Tap 165's run about 80 cents a round.
If you get a 10mm, you should get the stuff to load it, if you're not a reloader, this caliber costs as much as a 308 does to shoot factory ammo, so start loading.
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The slide was stripped i put it together w/ factory glock pieces mostly with the exception of the barrel which is a KKM. I haven't had a chance to check accuracy on it yet. Pretty much jus took it out an ran it a lil bit.
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I may get some of that GB 10mm.
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Anyone else thinkin about one of those bren tens? How bout an SH edition
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bohem</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ghogs Nightmare</div><div class="ubbcode-body">10MM's are AWESOME!!
Heard the Navy is gonna start to issue'm as back up's on the next satellite shoot down. </div></div>
Hahahahah...
Nice long slide, is that a complete slide assembly from LWD?
Banks-
10mm factory ammo runs about $1/round for Win 175gr Silvertips and Double Tap 165's run about 80 cents a round.
If you get a 10mm, you should get the stuff to load it, if you're not a reloader, this caliber costs as much as a 308 does to shoot factory ammo, so start loading.
</div></div>
The slide was stripped i put it together w/ factory glock pieces mostly with the exception of the barrel which is a KKM. I haven't had a chance to check accuracy on it yet. Pretty much jus took it out an ran it a lil bit.
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I may get some of that GB 10mm.
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Anyone else thinkin about one of those bren tens? How bout an SH edition
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ghogs Nightmare</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone else thinkin about one of those bren tens? How bout an SH edition
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I'll be getting at least two. A full-size "Vice" model in 10mm, and a Special Forces Dark in .45 Auto. Hopefully it won't be too much longer.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ghogs Nightmare</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone else thinkin about one of those bren tens? How bout an SH edition
I'll be getting at least two. A full-size "Vice" model in 10mm, and a Special Forces Dark in .45 Auto. Hopefully it won't be too much longer.
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nice MP!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NordicG3K</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The 10mm is the most versatile semi-auto handgun cartridge around, but it also makes a great carbine round too!
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nice MP!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NordicG3K</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The 10mm is the most versatile semi-auto handgun cartridge around, but it also makes a great carbine round too!
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Very nice Roby! Those blued DEGCs are very rare. Here's a few of my favorite tens.
Very nice Roby! Those blued DEGCs are very rare. Here's a few of my favorite tens.
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That HK is sweet!
As far as velocities, I'm thinking 1300+ using 200 gr pills and blue dot ion the Olympic upper and it was 1" at 50 yds with the halo. I'd have to go to the farm and get my load data to be sure on the vel. The Oly get a bad wrap but I've only had one FTF (a reload) since having the gun and I've run it quite a bit. It is hard on brass though. Really throws it.
I know I got my best velocities in a contender using a 12" barrel vs the 10" and 14" in both the Rem UMC 180 gr ammo and the win silvertips. I guess the 12 was the optimal length for the powder combos.
Some more 10mm Porn:
S&W 610
That HK is sweet!
As far as velocities, I'm thinking 1300+ using 200 gr pills and blue dot ion the Olympic upper and it was 1" at 50 yds with the halo. I'd have to go to the farm and get my load data to be sure on the vel. The Oly get a bad wrap but I've only had one FTF (a reload) since having the gun and I've run it quite a bit. It is hard on brass though. Really throws it.
I know I got my best velocities in a contender using a 12" barrel vs the 10" and 14" in both the Rem UMC 180 gr ammo and the win silvertips. I guess the 12 was the optimal length for the powder combos.
Some more 10mm Porn:
S&W 610
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I don't have a 10mm anymore , I sold it when I was younger and poorer ,I have since got a 400 Cor-Bon barrel for my G21 though and it will basicaly replicate the 10mm velocity wise (its a bit slower , less pressure).
They do alot more damage to live tissue than any 45acp does. However I also have a 45 super conversion for the G21 , and for sheer flat out explosiveness the 185gr Gold Dot at 1400 fps is awsome!! I use a 200gr Hornady XTP loaded to right over 1300fps as a side arm when I hog hunt.
I will admit its a hand full and not to well suited for the fait of heart as a carry gun but if the first round connects theirs no need for a second. If you plan a double tap you better start at the crotch cause the second round at 10yds is gonna be high chest , I wish I could get hold of some of the 165 gr pills that Cor-Bon uses and see what it would do with that.
If I ever decide to get back into LE work I'll likely buy a G20 as my carry gun
I don't have a 10mm anymore , I sold it when I was younger and poorer ,I have since got a 400 Cor-Bon barrel for my G21 though and it will basicaly replicate the 10mm velocity wise (its a bit slower , less pressure).
They do alot more damage to live tissue than any 45acp does. However I also have a 45 super conversion for the G21 , and for sheer flat out explosiveness the 185gr Gold Dot at 1400 fps is awsome!! I use a 200gr Hornady XTP loaded to right over 1300fps as a side arm when I hog hunt.
I will admit its a hand full and not to well suited for the fait of heart as a carry gun but if the first round connects theirs no need for a second. If you plan a double tap you better start at the crotch cause the second round at 10yds is gonna be high chest , I wish I could get hold of some of the 165 gr pills that Cor-Bon uses and see what it would do with that.
If I ever decide to get back into LE work I'll likely buy a G20 as my carry gun
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<span style="font-weight: bold">"10mm Rocks ..."</span>
Yes, ... Yes it does.
<span style="font-weight: bold">Glock 20 + Double Tap's old 165gn Golden Saber HPs (@ 1425fps/744fpe).</span>
<span style="font-weight: bold">Custom Delta.</span>
<span style="font-weight: bold">Carry-mates: Benchmade 9050 AFO & G29.</span>
<span style="font-weight: bold">"10mm Rocks ..."</span>
Yes, ... Yes it does.
<span style="font-weight: bold">Glock 20 + Double Tap's old 165gn Golden Saber HPs (@ 1425fps/744fpe).</span>
<span style="font-weight: bold">Custom Delta.</span>
<span style="font-weight: bold">Carry-mates: Benchmade 9050 AFO & G29.</span>
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ubet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Who else makes a 10mm other than Glock and Colt in a pistol? </div></div>
Right now EAA offers a number of models, but these can be hit or miss with regards to quality. Dan Wesson has a couple 10mms, and Fusion Firearms (run by Bob Serva who used to be head of Dan Wesson) makes quite a few 10mm models. Smith & Wesson has their 610 N-frame in two barrel lengths and is supposed to be adding the 10mm to their Night Guard line, but I've kinda' given up on that one happening. Kimber was producing a 10mm, but it may have been a limited run. Olympic Arms makes their AR in 10mm, Mech Tech makes a carbine conversion kit, and Feather USA makes an interesting 10mm carbine. The big news is that Vltor is bringing back the original Bren Ten and it should be available in the next few months.
As for conversions, any 1911 in .40 S&W can be converted to 10mm easily. There is also a Sig P220 stainless 10mm conversion, but be ready for big bucks and a long wait. A few people have converted the full-size HK USP .40 to 10mm as well.
In addition to all these current offerings, there are quite a few out of production 10mms on the used gun market. S&W made 6 different models in their 10xx series, there was the Star Megastar, the Ruger Buckeye Blackhawk, Thompson 1928A1, T/C Contender, Colt Double Eagle, and Coharie Arms had their MP5 10mm clone. A lot of people complain how they'd like a 10mm, but there just aren't many to choose from, but in reality there's quite a selection.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ubet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Who else makes a 10mm other than Glock and Colt in a pistol? </div></div>
Right now EAA offers a number of models, but these can be hit or miss with regards to quality. Dan Wesson has a couple 10mms, and Fusion Firearms (run by Bob Serva who used to be head of Dan Wesson) makes quite a few 10mm models. Smith & Wesson has their 610 N-frame in two barrel lengths and is supposed to be adding the 10mm to their Night Guard line, but I've kinda' given up on that one happening. Kimber was producing a 10mm, but it may have been a limited run. Olympic Arms makes their AR in 10mm, Mech Tech makes a carbine conversion kit, and Feather USA makes an interesting 10mm carbine. The big news is that Vltor is bringing back the original Bren Ten and it should be available in the next few months.
As for conversions, any 1911 in .40 S&W can be converted to 10mm easily. There is also a Sig P220 stainless 10mm conversion, but be ready for big bucks and a long wait. A few people have converted the full-size HK USP .40 to 10mm as well.
In addition to all these current offerings, there are quite a few out of production 10mms on the used gun market. S&W made 6 different models in their 10xx series, there was the Star Megastar, the Ruger Buckeye Blackhawk, Thompson 1928A1, T/C Contender, Colt Double Eagle, and Coharie Arms had their MP5 10mm clone. A lot of people complain how they'd like a 10mm, but there just aren't many to choose from, but in reality there's quite a selection.
Re: 10mm Rocks
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JJones75</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"steppenwolf" who did the grip work on that top Glock? </div></div>
<span style="font-weight: bold">Bowie Tactical Concepts</span>. He also did the G29 and my wife's G19. Great guy to deal with. Excellent work.
www.bowietacticalconcepts.com
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JJones75</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"steppenwolf" who did the grip work on that top Glock? </div></div>
<span style="font-weight: bold">Bowie Tactical Concepts</span>. He also did the G29 and my wife's G19. Great guy to deal with. Excellent work.
www.bowietacticalconcepts.com
Re: 10mm Rocks
I recently made it out to shoot my G20 SF and love it. I need to find out if our dept. will let us carry these. I am on our Search & Rescue unit and it would be nice to have the extra horsepower of the 10mm while out hiking in the woods.
I recently made it out to shoot my G20 SF and love it. I need to find out if our dept. will let us carry these. I am on our Search & Rescue unit and it would be nice to have the extra horsepower of the 10mm while out hiking in the woods.
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