2012 COMBAT BIATHLON SERIES [WY] + Photos!

[Zak Smith]

COMPETITION DYNAMICS presents The
<span style="font-weight: bold">2012 COMBAT BIATHLON SERIES</span>
<span style="font-style: italic">Periodically held near Douglas, Wyoming</span>

<span style="font-weight: bold">This match is a biathlon-style race that includes movement over land (run, hike, snowshoe, or ski based on weather conditions) in conjunction with practical shooting challenges. <span style="font-style: italic">The intent of this match is to test the concept of combining use of martial force with hard physical challenges</span>: The "Fitness Match." </span>

Individuals will complete approx 5 miles of movement using a method appropriate to the weather and ground conditions, to include: running, hiking, slogging, snowshoeing, or skiing. The total distance will be broken up into laps or segments. Between each lap, the competitor will complete one or more practical shooting challenges that involve a full-power rifle, carbine, shotgun, or pistol. (Consult schedule for required guns each month.)

<span style="font-weight: bold">The rest of the details are available on the
MATCH WEB SITE</span>

This is a <span style="font-style: italic">"local"</span> match and we're still working on the dates. The format is flexible and we intend to try some different things as we get it going. I'll update the web site and this thread when the first dates are set. This post is a heads-up.

thanks
-z

 

[Chilo]

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About 365 miles to Douglas...hmmm... I've been wanting to do something like this for a while. Keep us informed as to dates. Weather depending, I'd love to make this one.

Thanks,

Chilo

 

[KM375]

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Sounds like fun, Good ole fashioned Ass Kicking fun.

 

[Christopher Rance]

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pretty sweet, keep informed.

 

[808H200321]

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cool! keep updated....thanks!

 

[arkansashntr]

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Tag

 

[ewoaf]

Re: 2012 COMBAT BIATHLON SERIES [WY]

awesomesauce

 

[Alpine 338]

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It doesn't say on the match web site, but will one be required to carry their weapon or weapons during the movement phase?

I'm assuming so.

Sounds like fun.

 

[Zak Smith]

Re: 2012 COMBAT BIATHLON SERIES [WY]

Be prepared to do it, yeah

 

[oinco]

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Any darker pencil for pending dates? Would like to keep the calendar clear....

 

[RayDog]

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we are working on dates to get up there again and drop some steel. We want this one together pretty bad cause we all want a place we can get up to for a workout and training rolled into one. It's going to happen pretty soon

 

[SRSDriver]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RayDog</div><div class="ubbcode-body">we are working on dates to get up there again and drop some steel. We want this one together pretty bad cause we all want a place we can get up to for a workout and training rolled into one. It's going to happen pretty soon </div></div>

Very anxious!

You should add a dumbass division, for multiple 5 mile loops.

 

[banks74]

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Super stoked to shoot these!

 

[Niles Coyote]

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I need to move to Wyoming!

 

[Zak Smith]

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First Combat Biathlon is Sunday April 22, 2012

Details http://competition-dynamics.com/combat-biathlon-series-2012/schedule.php

 

[KevinU]

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Target distances known?

 

[Zak Smith]

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They will be

 

[SRSDriver]

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By '3 divisions' does that mean I can bring 3 guns and do 15 miles (3 laps or whatever), or pick 1 gun to compete in a single division with?

 

[Zak Smith]

Re: 2012 COMBAT BIATHLON SERIES [WY]

The intent is to choose one. If you finish very early and there is time, you could do another one.

 

[earthquake]

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What would be the round count for a bolt-gun? Gotta see if I need to buy more ammo! Thanks.

 

[Zak Smith]

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It won't exceed 50 rounds for sure.

 

[Alpine 338]

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Are all the targets going to be visable from the prone position?

 

[banks74]

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What fun would that be!

 

[Zak Smith]

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Be prepared in case you have to shoot from another position but you'll get to shoot from prone a bunch.

 

[Alpine 338]

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Zak,
Ok, went to the links for the Combat Biathlon, Rules, etc. and cannot find much info there. Sorry to ask, but I have a few more questions:

It mentions a min. 9mm pistol, will we be engaging pistol targets in all three divisions?

What's the rules/requirements for the Carbine division, can I use my TRG-22 with 20" barrel since it's technicaly a carbine?

What's the upper limit's on the Rifle division, can we use 338LM?

With the lack of snow this season, assuming there will be no snowshoes or ski's needed? That is if we don't have a huge snow storm the day prior.

One hit per target, or multiple hit required?

 

[Zak Smith]

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Hi,

Each match this year will be a slightly different format. The method of movement depends on ground conditions: pick the best based on what you think you'll find on the ground. The equipment divisions and what guns are required may chance some month to month. For April, it's detailed on the schedule link and for future matches it'll be listed there as well. I don't think we'll have any snow to expect to go on foot.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Individuals will complete approx 5 miles of movement using <span style="text-decoration: underline">a method appropriate to the weather and ground conditions</span>, to include: running, hiking, slogging, snowshoeing, or skiing. The total distance will be broken up into laps or segments. Between each lap, the competitor will complete one or more practical shooting challenges that involve a full-power rifle, carbine, shotgun, or pistol. (<span style="text-decoration: underline">Consult schedule for required guns each month.</span>)</div></div>

The Schedule tab at the top lists the format for this month
http://competition-dynamics.com/combat-biathlon-series-2012/schedule.php

 

[earthquake]

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Quick question, I've never done a comp like this...do most compete with the rifle slung, or with the rifle in some kind of pack like an Eberlestock? I have both. Was thinking of using my X3 Lodrag, but wondering how easy it'd be, or not, to remove the rifle at each stage.

If most use a sling, how do they carry ammo? Thanks.

 

[kraigWY]

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I think you can forget the skis and snowshoes.

 

[Zak Smith]

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Bring what you want to try and figure out what works best for you, for your rifle.

I would probably carry it in front with the sling around my back for some support.

 

[CPRifle]

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So the match starts at 11am... Will there be a sight-in period before that? What time is the match expected to finish by?

Will this be a ~5 mile course (different targets) or several loops totaling the 5 miles on the same targets?

 

[Zak Smith]

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For this first match, we'll have one shoot location with a couple different arrays of targets for the different rifles/divisions. You'll run a lap, then shoot the course, then do any penalty activities, then run another lap...

I updated the exact location on the map tab
http://competition-dynamics.com/combat-biathlon-series-2012/map.php

There is no sight-in prior to the shooters' meeting. The match will be finished as quickly as you can run 5 miles and shoot a short rifle stage 5 times...

 

[earthquake]

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Anyone else driving up from the Denver area? I was thinking on driving up early day of, and returning that same evening. Ride share?

 

[CPRifle]

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COfox, pm incoming.

 

[SRSDriver]

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Anyone else interested in a carpool from Longmont/Loveland/Ft Fun, pm me

 

[ewoaf]

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I'll be coming down from Thermopolis.

 

[Zak Smith]

Re: 2012 COMBAT BIATHLON SERIES [WY]

Results-
http://thunderbeastarms.com/forum/threads/results-from-april-2012-combat-biathlon.170/

Congrats to everyone who came out! This was a super tough event. Competitors had to run about 5 miles total, in approx 1 mile increments. After each lap, which was on basically a jeep road that went up and down some hills, rifle shooters got only one shot at each of 6 targets, from about 240 out to about 720. For each missed target, they had to do 5 "Rifle Thrusters" (a normal thruster holding your rifle, and your feet have to leave the ground at the top of the thruster). This sequence was repeated 5 times.

We had a rimfire class, where only 6 hits on a 90 yard target were required but extra shots were allowed. Next time we'll make the .22 shooting a lot harder, since our sole rimfire competitor didn't incur any Rifle Thrusters.

Photos

 

[Zak Smith]

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[Zak Smith]

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More photos
http://demigodllc.com/photo/Combat-Biathlon-2012.04/

 

[CPRifle]

Re: 2012 COMBAT BIATHLON SERIES [WY]

Zak, Ray,

Thanks for hosting this match. It was a lot harder (physically) than I was expecting.

 

[SRSDriver]

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+1 - Thanks so much for doing this! As always, CD match have a twist!

This was a fun match, more demanding than usual"run and gun" events! A Lot of fun, plus you get to feel your pulse in your cheek weld!

 

[Bill Larson]

Re: 2012 COMBAT BIATHLON SERIES [WY] + Photos!

any swimming involved........????
bill larson

 

[earthquake]

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+1 Great to meet all you guys! This was a tough on for sure...I'm feeling it today.

 

[Quickdraw40]

Re: 2012 COMBAT BIATHLON SERIES [WY] + Photos!

Toughest match... hell, toughest thing I have ever done physically. Great time with great people. Thank you Competition Dynamics, another GREAT match.

 

[Zak Smith]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">any swimming involved........????</div></div>
Maybe next time...

 

[dinosdeuce]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Zak Smith</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">any swimming involved........????</div></div>
Maybe next time... </div></div>

That stock tank looked good by the 4th lap.

I'll echo everyone else's comments. Very physically demanding. I'm sore as shit. Thanks Ray and Zak.

Dino

 

[DamnYuppie]

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It looks like you where making guys do some form of Thruster with their rifles. Looks like fun, hopefully you made them do like 50-100 as rifles don't way much!

 

[Zak Smith]

Re: 2012 COMBAT BIATHLON SERIES [WY] + Photos!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For each missed target, they had to do 5 "Rifle Thrusters" (a normal thruster holding your rifle, and your feet have to leave the ground at the top of the thruster). </div></div>
There were 6x5 target opportunities over the event so worst case someone might've had to do 150, best case 0 (if zero rifle misses). I think the average person had to do about 75 total.

 

[RayDog]

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Great job for all you guys that showed up.

RJ you have made awesome progress in the last couple months, you kicked ass. Great Job!

 

[Quickdraw40]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RayDog</div><div class="ubbcode-body">RJ you have made awesome progress in the last couple months, you kicked ass. Great Job! </div></div>

Thanks Ray, four months of CrossFit as suggested by you and Zak...

 

[ewoaf]

Re: 2012 COMBAT BIATHLON SERIES [WY] + Photos!

I still can't walk right, then today at work I think I pulled an ass muscle. Can't wait to do it again though, only next time I'll bring the .260 along.