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2021 ELR rifle weight and caliber restrictions
- Thread starter SmileMaker
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Oh, lol... I wouldn't have thought anyone would make a positive reference to anything related to the unmitigated clusterfuck that was the origin of the cheytac... Funny that it turned into a decent parent cartridge given what a dead end the 408 itself ended up being.
ELR within the FCSA lingered at the edges of pursuits since the early days about 35 years ago. Skip Talbot in particular worked at optimizing for that kind of shooting with things like the 338 Talbot being marginal successes from that era. There was a broad selection of wildcats geared towards pushing the range limits. Lynn McMurdo worked the monolithic development side of things back then and they would go sling bullets and a big rock in the middle of the desert from a few miles out to try and figure out what worked and what didn't. I want to say Randy Dirks and Scott Nye were a part of those efforts too but it has been at least 15 years since I read about it.
-Alex
Hi,
As cluster as cheytac was it doesn't take away the fact that there were other groups and companies pushing the boundaries as a "growth" initiative on the USA and International side of things long before the current elr organizations ever were a thought.
FCSA members were involved in the ELR shooting, not the FCSA itself. Because we all know the FCSA in itself had a shit load of pushback on the elr realm even as lately as the KO2M origins. Eduardo got all sorts of complaints and such from FCSA members in the beginning.
Yes Scott was involved back then...from messing around with 1200gr stainless steel projectiles to attempting to get fcsa to allow for faster twist rates per their rules...but he met opposition to that because some dumbass showed up with super fast twist and jacketed bullets....
Sincerely,
Theis
As cluster as cheytac was it doesn't take away the fact that there were other groups and companies pushing the boundaries as a "growth" initiative on the USA and International side of things long before the current elr organizations ever were a thought.
FCSA members were involved in the ELR shooting, not the FCSA itself. Because we all know the FCSA in itself had a shit load of pushback on the elr realm even as lately as the KO2M origins. Eduardo got all sorts of complaints and such from FCSA members in the beginning.
Yes Scott was involved back then...from messing around with 1200gr stainless steel projectiles to attempting to get fcsa to allow for faster twist rates per their rules...but he met opposition to that because some dumbass showed up with super fast twist and jacketed bullets....
Sincerely,
Theis
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Alex - The first "official" URSA shoot was in NorCal on May 3, 2015 - as of today's shoot in NorCal, that was the first of 56 (fifty-six) events we've held. The first SoCal event was on May 17, 2015. [See https://www.unlimitedrange.org/activity event schedule.html ] An attempted organizational meeting was held in Vegas at SHOT 2014 - which I did not attend because I was in the hospital with three broken ribs and a broken jaw (car vs me and I lost).
According to the FCSA the first Ko2M was held July 1, 2015 (the first of how many to date, you tell us).
"The Rock" shoot was not an inspiration at all (for me - I wasn't there, only heard about it from Lynn), though possibly on Lynn's mind as he considered joining URSA as CA/NV Regional Director.
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