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224 Valkyrie Bolt Guns
- Thread starter Tobyboy22
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One of my mags that I use us is this:
https://accurate-mag.com/shop/magazines/223-rem-5-56-nato-dssf-magazine/. I had to modify the plastic a bit but it does work....the other is an accurate mag 308 mag with a primal rights 6br mag modification. http://www.primalrights.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=135. This one I had to squeeze the mag in a couple places to get it to work better.....for some reason I use this one more, I guess to make sure it works and it has for quite a while where as with the .223 one I know it works.
Here's a video by Ultimate Reloader on using Accurate Mags with the Primal Rights 6mmBR kit. He's in the middle of a series of videos based around building a 223 Valk Bolt Action, they've been interesting so far.
sorry I haven't taken time to check this in a bit..... which mag? I used the 5 round mags for all this, I don't like the mag hanging down that far.
On the AI with the primal rights I did what the video above did but I used a channel lock pliers and I squeezed the body a little under the feed lips and I also squeezed right at where the feed lips are connected to the main body of the mag front and back. There is a video of a tool a person can use to fold the lips in, , but I was going to make my own tool. I don't know if I would bend the lips like the video above, I would try to get down on the lips a little more because the way he did it was that I would think that the cartridges would ride right on the sharp edge of the lips and scratch the brass all to hell. I would try to take the curvature out of the lips more and try to straighten them more and bend them in to ward the shell to capture the cartridge better and guide it better because well its made for a 308....mine still scratches the hell out of my brass, because I haven't adjusted the pitch of the feed lips.
On the 223 one with the plastic insert I had to grind away the plastic feed lips with the dremel to accept the bigger cartridge body and grind the follower stop in the front to make the follower come up more in the front because the cartridge wanted to nose dive in the mag. when I got done it works great!! Just takes time, let me know if anyone has anymore questions.
I ordered an accurate 308 ten round mag and the Primal Rights 6BR kit. We’ll see how everything works. I appreciate all the videos and comments so hopefully I don’t mess up the mag!
Ah those mags are tough.....thing is it takes a lot to f them up and if you do they’re metal and they can for the most part be fixed!!! I’m operating on very tight budget on stuff and if I can take one and make it work you can too and I hardly did ANY research as to if it were to work, function ect. Hell when I did all this there wasn’t anything much on the Valkyrie.
IHF, why haven't you just sanded/polished the edges of the feed lips to avoid scratching the cases???
I hate to “remove” material.....once you remove that, its gone, I’d rather shape it how I want. I know it won’t remove much but still..... lol I’m different I guess
There are times when remove just a small bit of material is appropriate. This is one of those times. 
You should see my AI 10 round mag, gastly, it looks like I modified it, lol, but that thing is 100% reliable now and it wasn't before.
I have this friend, he has an almost new Microtech MSAR that he bought 10 years ago. He won't shoot it because he's afraid, very much so, that he will wear out the mags, LOL??? I say to him well why did you mount that scope on it then, (it took him 8 years to mount the scope) , or for that matter not just sell it??? So he literally decided not to shoot it, not kidding either. !?!? Let's all bow our heads now and grieve.
Don't let the sickness go to far.
Lol ah I AM NOT THAT bad, I do like to use things right away and have no problem doing so....I use and sometimes abuse products but taking material off is the last resort for me, in my opinion there’s a better way, I tend to get a lil carried away at times so FOR ME I will do it MY way lol!!
With my ar15 it was brand new and I got a little aggressive with trying to make the gas block not hit the hand rail.....didn’t like how big the charge handle was, cut it off......both times after I modified I thought, fudge I could’ve been more patient and thought about it more and both wouldn’t have turned out to look like crap...oh well both parts work do their job, just not as nice looking!!
Ha, I've tuned perfectly good guns to a standstill. It's hard to find a balance sometimes. My problem is the local gunsmiths in my city suck and then I thought I was a gunsmith, uh no, found that out the hard way, lol.
But I did learn some stuff along the way.
But I did learn some stuff along the way.
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The avatar picture is the gun I built into a Valkyrie using the remage system, I even pillar bedded and installed a ptg dbm on it, the bedding job is not the prettiest because of the tools I had available and once again patients was short but it all turned out great for my first time fiddling with this stuff this far in-depth.
I think the ammo that federal is putting out is not very consistent, mine with 60gr bt in one lot of ammo I had 3 rounds left and all 3 were touching. The next box I did another 3 shot group and had like a 1.5or so group....idk what’s going on but I’m going to pony up and start reloading bc of this, but I always wanted to anyway.
lol I hear ya. I’m a tight a$$ about stuff I think I can learn and I like learning!!! I’m a mechanic and welder so the will to play with this sort of thing is awesome for me!!
The avatar picture is the gun I built into a Valkyrie using the remage system, I even pillar bedded and installed a ptg dbm on it, the bedding job is not the prettiest because of the tools I had available and once again patients was short but it all turned out great for my first time fiddling with this stuff this far in-depth.
I think the ammo that federal is putting out is not very consistent, mine with 60gr bt in one lot of ammo I had 3 rounds left and all 3 were touching. The next box I did another 3 shot group and had like a 1.5or so group....idk what’s going on but I’m going to pony up and start reloading bc of this, but I always wanted to anyway.
This here shows the promise/greatness that this cartridge is capable of that I gave it from the beginning!!! Very impressive, not the fastest round but speed ain't everything all the time.
Here is a possibly stupid question. Since the Valkuses the 6.8 bolt face, could we do a barrel swap and shoot both? I really want a small cal. multi-cal bolt gun, but I’m really wanting the Valk. It’d be nice if it was a possibility to interchange with at least the 6.8spc
If you already have a 6.8spc rifle, your set.....yes all you need is a barrel....the Valkyrie and spc have THE same bolt face as the Valkyrie is more or less based off the 6.8spc, not sure if it is just a neck down or it they shortened the 6.8spc case a bit for the Valkyrie or what.....the Valkyrie case OAL is just a bit under a 6.8spc, like .053-.058 or so.
The Valk shoulder is set back and changed from 23° to 30° and the neck is shortened to help with running the long heavy .224 diameter bullets at AR mag lengths.
There is another version that predates the Valkyrie by about a decade the 556x42 that is only a neck down and trim slightly with more capacity and greater velocity potential that I think would be a better option for a bolt gun but it is a wildcat and has no factory ammo so reloader only round.
I have a criterion 24" light varmint with the 1:6.5......honestly from what I've seen is that both twist rates do good for both grain bullets you have listed. From what I've seen on youtube, I think I posted it, but snipershide on youtube had pushed the Valkyrie to 1550, 1760 and 2 miles and I believe they are using the 1:7 twist 90 grain bullets. Mine shoots the 60 grain bullets better than expected, better than the factory 88, 90's. I may have to shoot it again and try something different with my shooting stance and bench to rule out any error I may have done, I also have probably less than 100 rounds through the barrel too though so....that maybe a problem too.
I did post the videos above.....^^^^^^^^post 18
I have the Rock Creek 6.7 twist and it shoots both the 88s and the 90s very well out to distance. I don’t know for sure that’s it’s even needed, but I do know that it works.
I just got my new custom 224 valk Bolt Gun home and doing up some hand loads for this wknd. any info on max charges for the bolt guns? Im running a 6.5 twist 24 inch 5R rifled barrel from Bartlein. My first powders are Varget and H4895. I see guys doing anywhere from 23.8 to 25.5gr in each and some at 26.
Has anyone tried the Magpul AICS mags with 224V?
I'm not sure I could get that round to feed from AW mags with either Primal Rights or HRD Gear conversion kits.
I'm not sure I could get that round to feed from AW mags with either Primal Rights or HRD Gear conversion kits.
I wouldn’t think you could. I’m under the impression the feed lips need to be tweaked for the 224V and you can’t do that with plastic.
I'm using MDT 223 mags modified to run 224 by Buck Holly, CHPWS in Georgia.
Impact Precision 737R Rem 700 action on a 1 in 6.5 twist Bartlein barrel 24 inch.
Any updates on magazines? I've got MDT mags but I hear those are too wide. Any clear winners as far as mags go?
Aren't they the same as the standard (.308) DSSF mags as far as width? I dont doubt that but I was just told that they jam up. Might be worth giving a try.
MDT/CH Precision mags feed the best of anything I've tested to date. MDTZ 6BR after adjusting feed lips is second best but.
I guess I'm missing something, what's the CH/Z about? Are they MDT mags gone through a 3rd party? Any links? A quick Google search didn't do the trick for me.
They pop up first results when typing MDT 224 Valkyrie into google.
224 Valkyrie MDT 8 round mag - C&H Precision Weapons
224 Valkyrie MDT 8 round mag is now available at C&H precision weapon. We take OEM MDT 223 mags and custom modify the internals to work with the new Federal Premium 224 Valkyrie ammunition. This is a short term solution until steel AICS mags have tested and are ready for release.
www.chpws.com
Got mine out to the range yesterday. Stoked.
I got my MDT 6BR mag in today and was pretty disappointed. First, I'm not sure when this hit the MDT site, but at the bottom of the page there's a disclaimer:
Additionally, through testing, we have found that these magazines ARE NOT COMPATIBLE WITH the following actions:
Secondly, loading up 10 Hornady ELDM 88s, they bind in the mag, I had to shake it to get the follower to push the rounds up. Do I need to purchase an additional $45 conversion kits from Primal Rights before I can get this to work? 224 bolt gun in case that wasn't clear.
Additionally, through testing, we have found that these magazines ARE NOT COMPATIBLE WITH the following actions:
- Curtis Custom's Axiom and Vector
- GAP Tempest
- Ultimatum Deadline
- and most other commonly available, aftermarket 3-lug actions
Secondly, loading up 10 Hornady ELDM 88s, they bind in the mag, I had to shake it to get the follower to push the rounds up. Do I need to purchase an additional $45 conversion kits from Primal Rights before I can get this to work? 224 bolt gun in case that wasn't clear.
So I've got a ruger gunsite accurate mag with the PR 6BR kit, I've got it so close but the second round tends to sit down under the feed lip. Any ideas on how to get it to pop up? If I tap the mag it comes up. I cant tell if the rounds are binding or if it's the follower. Every other round feeds fine.
This is my first go with tweaking mags so this might be basic.
This is my first go with tweaking mags so this might be basic.
Yeah, follower might be binding but there might also be a burr on the inside (where the cartridge gets guided)feed lip causing it to hang up. Take some sand paper....idk 120-400 grit and sand the inside of both feed lips. What I’m thinking is that there’s not enough pressure to pop it over the burr....maybe, take your finger nail or something and see if something catches on a burr.
Hope that helps.
Thanks for the ideas, I did quickly hit the feed lips to smooth them out.
One thing I forgot. The second round almost always is loose and can be removed and the rest of the rounds are froze.
So now that I'm thinking about it... it might be the pressure on the 3rd round causing it to catch. I'll grab my gun and play with is some.
