.260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

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Wannashootit

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    #1
    These are all so close...
    Re-barreling mine, and my son's, Savage 10's.
    Long range paper punching and steel, out to 1000 max. Barrels will be Varmint countours.

    My 14 year old has confessed that he may want a bit less recoil than the .308 he currently has in the factory barrel.

    For ease of reloading, whatever is used, will be for both rifles.

    While I'm willing to trade-off a tiny bit in the ballistics dept. for less felt recoil, best ballistics is still the primary consideration.

    Which of these calibers provides the best solution?
     
    #2
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    General opinion is that the 260 and 6.5 Creedmoor are a wash.

    6.5 vs 7mm

    Hard to get the 7-08 to push the 162amax (the bullet I would use) to a velocity that will get it a real advantage over the 260/6.5C.

    I'm building a 6.5 Creedmoor because I don't have a bunch of time to reload and when I can't there is really good factory ammo at a reasonable price.
     
    #3
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    If you run a 140 Amax and a 162 Amax at the velocities that a 260 vs. 7-08 can comfortably push them from otherwise identically configured rifles the differences at 1000yd are about 1 MOA drop in favor of the 260 and about 0.5MOA drift in favor of the 7-08.

    The difference is felt recoil, relative cost of bullets/power/barrel/brass and delivered energy on target.

    All said and done, the real difference is recoil and energy on target, the recoil is very reasonable with both. The energy on target is good for both (when compared to a 308) and goes to the 708.

    Long story short, it's essentially a wash between the two. I am currently running a 6.5CM as my primary short action rifle and it's a fantastic shooter. A friend and I shot his 7-08 against my 6.5 CM at 600-1000yd and we shared wind calls for the entire day.

    There's little difference between them unless you're trying to kill something with it. In that case I'd turn to the 7-08 to gain the advantage in "ass".
     
    #5
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 7mmRM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ive been very, very happy with my 7mm08. 162s @ 2700 FPS via 22" tube. </div></div>

    Sounds just like my 6.5 CM: 140 Amax @ 2680 from a 22" barrel. For the very slight differences in BC they are effectively twins. Both great calibers, flipping a coin to choose 1 vs. the other would still net a great choice.
     
    #7
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    What I've seen is the 260 will do a fine job and be right with me on wind until 900 yards. At 900 + I pick up much less drift than a 260. So if your shooting under 900 and want the option of good store bought ammo then go 260. If you want to shoot 900+ in the wind more than once a year go 7-08.

    My 7-08 pushes a 162bthp to 2780, Barrel specs are in my dog.

    Good luck,
    Merritt
     
    #8
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    I've been long debating what my next build would be. I'm currently running a 6.5x47 Lapua with 140VLD's at 2800fps. I've been trying to decide if I want to go with a 7-08, try another 6.5, or maybe a fast 6mm with the 115 dtac. I've run the numbers in Ballistic and it really is a wash. I'm now thinking that if I want something with more punch and a worthwhile ballistic edge, I'm going to have to jump up to something like a .284 Win to push the 180 VLD - at the expense of felt recoil.

    Here are my 6.5 Lapua numbers along with some 7-08 numbers and a 6mm. I'm thinking about just sticking with another 6.5, maybe try a Creedmore. It is a tough decision when picking your next toy.

    These numbers are at 1100yds just because that is the farthest I usually shoot.

    6.5 Lapua 140VLD @ 2800 -369.5" drop 80.6" drift
    7/08 162 amax @ 2800 -371.9" drop 82.9" drift
    7/08 162 HPBT @ 2800 -407.8" drop 99.7" drift
    6mm 115 dtac @ 2950 -343.8" drop 81.1" drift
     
    #9
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    Thanks for all the comments, guys.
    Guess it may come down to barrel availability (Xmas is coming!)...

    MDM:
    I was looking at your #'s and thought the 115 dtac must have been a typo...I couldn't believe such a small bullet could put up those kinds of numbers. I'd never heard of the dtac so I looked it up; wow- a BC of .588 is unbelievable in a bullet that size.
     
    #10
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    Yep, Sierra makes the Dtac. I've actually thought about a 6x47 Lapua. Mainly because the brass is brick shit-house strong. The 2950fps is a little consevative from what I've read out of a 28" tube. 3000 should be doable.
     
    #11
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MDM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've been long debating what my next build would be. I'm currently running a 6.5x47 Lapua with 140VLD's at 2800fps. I've been trying to decide if I want to go with a 7-08, try another 6.5, or maybe a fast 6mm with the 115 dtac. I've run the numbers in Ballistic and it really is a wash. I'm now thinking that if I want something with more punch and a worthwhile ballistic edge, I'm going to have to jump up to something like a .284 Win to push the 180 VLD - at the expense of felt recoil.

    Here are my 6.5 Lapua numbers along with some 7-08 numbers and a 6mm. I'm thinking about just sticking with another 6.5, maybe try a Creedmore. It is a tough decision when picking your next toy.

    These numbers are at 1100yds just because that is the farthest I usually shoot.

    6.5 Lapua 140VLD @ 2800 -369.5" drop 80.6" drift
    7/08 162 amax @ 2800 -371.9" drop 82.9" drift
    7/08 162 HPBT @ 2800 -407.8" drop 99.7" drift
    6mm 115 dtac @ 2950 -343.8" drop 81.1" drift </div></div>

    Seems the numbers are a wash. I'd go back with 6.5 because you're already set-up for it. Only way I'd consider changing is for better barrel life, however, those are consumable anyway.
     
    #12
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MDM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've been long debating what my next build would be. I'm currently running a 6.5x47 Lapua with 140VLD's at 2800fps. I've been trying to decide if I want to go with a 7-08, try another 6.5, or maybe a fast 6mm with the 115 dtac. I've run the numbers in Ballistic and it really is a wash. I'm now thinking that if I want something with more punch and a worthwhile ballistic edge, I'm going to have to jump up to something like a .284 Win to push the 180 VLD - at the expense of felt recoil.

    Here are my 6.5 Lapua numbers along with some 7-08 numbers and a 6mm. I'm thinking about just sticking with another 6.5, maybe try a Creedmore. It is a tough decision when picking your next toy.

    These numbers are at 1100yds just because that is the farthest I usually shoot.

    6.5 Lapua 140VLD @ 2800 -369.5" drop 80.6" drift
    7/08 162 amax @ 2800 -371.9" drop 82.9" drift
    7/08 162 HPBT @ 2800 -407.8" drop 99.7" drift
    6mm 115 dtac @ 2950 -343.8" drop 81.1" drift </div></div>

    MDM,

    Not questioning your veracity, but running JBM on the 115 DTAC @ 2950 FPS comes up nowhere near your numbers for 1100 yds:

    1100 -373.5" Drop 94.1" Drift

    The others list different as well from JBM. Are you using Litz's G7's or published G1's. As Litz list the 115 DTAC G1 as only 0.540 vice published G1 of 0.588 (G7 0.276)

    162 A-max @ 2800 FPS Litz G1 0.599 (G7 0.307)
    1100 -393.2" Drop 88.1" Drift

    140 Berger VLS @ 2800 FPS Litz G1 0.612 (G7 0.313)
    1100 -388.2 Drop 85.7" Drift

    In other words JBM's numbers track exactly like the difference shown in G1's and G7's BC's.....
     
    #13
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wannashootit</div><div class="ubbcode-body">These are all so close...
    Re-barreling mine, and my son's, Savage 10's.
    Long range paper punching and steel, out to 1000 max. Barrels will be Varmint countours.

    <span style="color: #006600">My 14 year old has confessed that he may want a bit less recoil than the .308 he currently has in the factory barrel</span>.

    For ease of reloading, whatever is used, will be for both rifles.

    While I'm willing to trade-off a tiny bit in the ballistics dept. for less felt recoil, best ballistics is still the primary consideration.

    Which of these calibers provides the best solution? </div></div>
    My vote would be a .243 if you want good ballistics and less recoil.
    I chose a 7mm 08 because I wanted good ballistics, and more down range energy and more barrel life than a 6.5 mm.
    Also look at the price of the bullets themselves, I enjoy shooting, and I can't get myself to spend money on the Berger bullets. Hornaday's 162 grn A-max is the perfect ticket for me.
    Enjoy, SScott
     
    #14
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    Hi Bob,

    Ballistic was giving me a G7 of .288, so that is why it is so far off. Didn't know the Litz G7 was that low. Thanks for pointing that out. The 6mm doesn't look that appealing now.

    The rest of the numbers match up pretty well. I'm using an altitude of 1165, 75 temp and 70% humidity, 30.06 Hg. My chart is spot on for the 140 VLD with 9.3 mils to 1100yds.
     
    #15
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    MDM,

    Yea, I was using sea level altitiude, and lower temp and pressures, then your AO. That accounts for most of the differences with the 140 VLD numbers.

    Bob
     
    #16
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    Plus, I was using my real world sight height at 2" instead the standard 1.5". That change alone accounts 5" less drop.

    I should have pointed out that I was using the atmosheric numbers I mostly shoot in.
     
    #17
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MDM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Plus, I was using my real world sight height at 2" instead the standard 1.5". That change alone accounts 5" less drop.

    I should have pointed out that I was using the atmosheric numbers I mostly shoot in. </div></div>

    I've corrected the G7 for the DTAC it's really 0.276, (g1's OK @ 0.540) need to remember to put my reading glass on........
     
    #18
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    Why not thread the barrel and put a brake on it if the .308 offers you the best of reloading and pricing and is a very efficient and fun caliber. Now if your looking for wind cheaters and stuff for competitions then I would say all 3 of the mentioned calibers well 4 if you factor in the .243 will work. A lot of matches have been won with the 115 dtacs and h4350 pushing around the 3100fps mark. And if you dont want to shoot them, get some 105 amaxs and use them for hunting as well as target.
     
    #19
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    Go with the 260. Granted not a whole lot of factory available for it but Cor Bon Match is pretty good. The 139 Scenar lists a bc of .615 and the 142 SMK lists a bc of .595, and the recoil on the 6.5's isn't really that much, they feel about the same as a 243. Lastly, Lapua is now making brass for the 260 as well as Nosler. The Lapua is a little cheaper per piece but both are excellent quality, so if you reload, the quality components are there. Equal performance to the Creedmore and better component availability make it an outstanding choice.
     
    #20
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hewlett260</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Go with the 260. Granted not a whole lot of factory available for it but Cor Bon Match is pretty good. The 139 Scenar lists a bc of .615 and the 142 SMK lists a bc of .595, and the recoil on the 6.5's isn't really that much, they feel about the same as a 243. Lastly, Lapua is now making brass for the 260 as well as Nosler. The Lapua is a little cheaper per piece but both are excellent quality, so if you reload, the quality components are there. Equal performance to the Creedmore and better component availability make it an outstanding choice. </div></div>

    Lapua has downgraded their G1 BC's (all of them), the 139 is now listed by Lapua as 0.578 (G7 0.290). Litz tested G1 on the 139 Scenar is 0.557 (G7 0.285). Sierra's 142 SMK G1 is listed by Litz as 0.588 (G7 0.301) . Just an FYI...
     
    #22
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    Thanks for the heads up
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    #23
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    I will admit that I am a fan of the 7's.

    That being said, I would go with the 6.5 CM.

    Readily available factory match ammo.

    The 123 SMK's and AMAX will reach 1000 yards with very little recoil and far superior barrel life compared to the .243.

    It has been reported that the heavier bullets tend to be more accurate, even so, you are talking 139-142 grains. Still less recoil than the 168 .308
     
    #24
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I will admit that I am a fan of the 7's.

    That being said, I would go with the 6.5 CM.

    Readily available factory match ammo.

    The 123 SMK's and AMAX will reach 1000 yards with very little recoil and far superior barrel life compared to the .243.

    It has been reported that the heavier bullets tend to be more accurate, even so, you are talking 139-142 grains. Still less recoil than the 168 .308</div></div>

    The .260 rem has pretty much the same ballistics as the CM, but you have more choices where it comes to brass and factory ammo. CM only has the Hornady brass and ammo available.
     
    #25
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jay Park</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I will admit that I am a fan of the 7's.

    That being said, I would go with the 6.5 CM.

    Readily available factory match ammo.

    The 123 SMK's and AMAX will reach 1000 yards with very little recoil and far superior barrel life compared to the .243.

    It has been reported that the heavier bullets tend to be more accurate, even so, you are talking 139-142 grains. Still less recoil than the 168 .308</div></div>

    The .260 rem has pretty much the same ballistics as the CM, but you have more choices where it comes to brass and factory ammo. CM only has the Hornady brass and ammo available.
    </div></div>

    6.5 CM brass can be made from other sources. Though it is more work.
    In additoin, consider that the CM match ammo can be had for 24 a box with the recipe on the side.

    The VERY VERY few match loads for the .260 start at about 34 a box.

    One otem in the .260 favor, it uses the same headspace gages as the .243/7-08/.308
     
    #26
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    Both the 6.5mm 140gr and 7mm 162gr A-Max run about $25/box.

    Of course, the heavier bullet will have slightly more recoil, but a muzzle brake makes recoil moot from any of the 3 mentioned calibers.

    Lapua brass is available for the 260, though you can reform for the 7mm08 or use Win brass. As others have mentioned, Hornady is currently the only game in town for CM brass.

    The 130gr 6.5mm Norma Golden Target bullet has a Litz BC of .575, and you can get 3000fps with a 26" 260 (at least I do with RL17 and Lapua brass with no pressure). You have to buy them 500 at a time, but the price per 100 only runs about a buck more than either 6.5mm or 7mm A-Max.

    Running through Ballistic, the 130 Norma @ 3000fps has 1.18mil less drop and 0.28mil less drift @ 1000yd than the 140 A-Max at 2850fps. Compared with the 7mm 162 A-Max @ 2775fps, the 130 Norma has 1.06mil less drop and .02mil less drift.

    Of course then you've got the 130 JLK with claimed .620 BC, which runs .31mil flatter and .18mil less drift than the 130 Normas @ 3000fps...but cost $9-10 more per 100 than the other options.

    Flip a coin?
     
    #27
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    Not concerned about factory ammo availability since I reload. Damn good thing, too...since all three of us like to send at least 100 rounds each every trip to the range. The damn match grade Sierra's are expensive enuf...I'd be eatin' tuna helper for dinner if I had to buy 15 boxes of factory at $25 each twice a month!

    The thought of getting a brake for a .308 did occur to me. Both our rifles have the factory (contour) barrels, and while they shoot OK from a cold bore and few after, they string a bit when they get hot- hence the desire to change to a varmint contour.

    As if caliber selection isn't enough, I'm finding there's quite a few players in the Savage drop-in barrel dept. We're not competition shooters, so we don't need $500 barrels. I've seen the Shilen is pretty reasonable at $320 at Midway.

    They also sell ER Shaw...I know they're no Shilen, but anyone with direct experience with one of their barrels? Will they deliver at least minute of angle accuracy with the right handload? Their price in the white (I'm going to Duracoat them) is downright tempting...They've got a 20", .308 <span style="font-style: italic">with a threaded barrel</span> for a buck thirty...

    Thanks again for the input. If anyone has other suggestions for in-stock barrels in the $300 range or less, I'd appreciate the info.
     
    #28
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    If you're looking for a Savage prefit, the Criterion offered by Jim Briggs @ Northland Shooters Supply has gotten rave reviews...I'm quite happy with mine.

    A 26" varmint contour barrel is $280.
     
    #29
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    Of these choices, I choose 708. Brass is super available, particularly when you consider you can easily form it from 308. It is a nice step down in recoil from a 308, if you've previously been launching 175s @ 2700ish... As noted above, it has a wind advantage over the 6.5s. Barrel life is better than the 6.5s and especially the 6mm. It's a very efficient cartridge that doesn't require a long barrel.

    I settled on a 284win, but had "decided" on a 260 first. I'm an engineer...after crunching the numbers and costs, I became convinced the 7mm is *the* answer. So I "decided" on the 708. Then I decided as good as the 708 is, I wanted to try an experiment, so I finally settled on 284 on a short action.
     
    #30
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    I shoot a 6XC Surgeon and a Kickass 6.5CM currently. I have had a 7-08 with an old Douglas barrel I shot for a bit (became the Creedmoor).

    That said, knowing what I know now the 7-08 will most likely be my next match gun.

    6's at 3000, 6.5's at 2900 and 7's at 2800 are so close its scary out to 1200 or so, so take your pick. But I think a 162 Amax at 2800ish will be the most versatile rifle for practical considerations out to a mile.
     
    #31
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BoilerUP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you're looking for a Savage prefit, the Criterion offered by Jim Briggs @ Northland Shooters Supply has gotten rave reviews...I'm quite happy with mine.

    A 26" varmint contour barrel is $280. </div></div>

    Thanks, Boiler...did not know about them.
     
    #32
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    One shot to the boiler room of a five point elk at 200 yards from my .260 HS precision put meat in the freezer and a smile on my face. That little gun is deadly because it is so easy to shoot!
     
    #33
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    I'm glad you've asked this question.

    I've been assembling parts for a build and was originally planning on one of the 6.5mm, but after seeing how close the 162 Amax is I think I'll chose 7mm-08 for barrel life, and component availability and price.
     
    #35
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    What if you built the 7-08 on a Long Action?

    Would being able to seat the bullet out longer give you the necessary case capacity to soundly defeat the 6.5's in all areas?

    Also, longer OAL would enable mag fed 180 bergers...
     
    #36
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    If it was a long action, I'd build a 7x57. When loaded to the same pressures as the 7-08, it beats it handily.

    As far as pre-fit barrels, I'm a fan of Lothar-Walther.
    VERY nice barrels, nicely finished and easy to clean.

    Keep in mind, once you move up to a varmint contour, the increased weight will moderate the recoil a bit.
     
    #37
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    The Criterion (Krieger Button Rifled barrels) are top notch and Jim's service is great. I've very happy w/ mine too.

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BoilerUP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you're looking for a Savage prefit, the Criterion offered by Jim Briggs @ Northland Shooters Supply has gotten rave reviews...I'm quite happy with mine.

    A 26" varmint contour barrel is $280.</div></div>
     
    #38
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If it was a long action, I'd build a 7x57. When loaded to the same pressures as the 7-08, it beats it handily.

    As far as pre-fit barrels, I'm a fan of Lothar-Walther.
    VERY nice barrels, nicely finished and easy to clean.

    Keep in mind, once you move up to a varmint contour, the increased weight will moderate the recoil a bit. </div></div>

    Can you make 7x57 brass from 308 brass? Also, in a pinch you can find 7-08 match ammo.
     
    #39
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Onemoretime</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If it was a long action, I'd build a 7x57. When loaded to the same pressures as the 7-08, it beats it handily.

    As far as pre-fit barrels, I'm a fan of Lothar-Walther.
    VERY nice barrels, nicely finished and easy to clean.

    Keep in mind, once you move up to a varmint contour, the increased weight will moderate the recoil a bit. </div></div>

    Can you make 7x57 brass from 308 brass? Also, in a pinch you can find 7-08 match ammo. </div></div>

    The brass is the key dowfall tor 7x57. Also, it isn't "moderate" so recoil will be stout and barrel life will suffer. A 162amax @ 3200fps is going to have at least as much recoil as a 308. Recoild is one of the primary considerations in the OPs situation.
     
    #41
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: turbo54</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Onemoretime</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If it was a long action, I'd build a 7x57. When loaded to the same pressures as the 7-08, it beats it handily.

    As far as pre-fit barrels, I'm a fan of Lothar-Walther.
    VERY nice barrels, nicely finished and easy to clean.

    Keep in mind, once you move up to a varmint contour, the increased weight will moderate the recoil a bit. </div></div>

    Can you make 7x57 brass from 308 brass? Also, in a pinch you can find 7-08 match ammo. </div></div>

    The brass is the key dowfall tor 7x57. Also, it isn't "moderate" so recoil will be stout and barrel life will suffer. A 162amax @ 3200fps is going to have at least as much recoil as a 308. Recoild is one of the primary considerations in the OPs situation. </div></div>

    Brass isn't hard to come by. All the major companies make at least one load and bulk brass is available from remington and norma.
    It can also be sourced from 6mm Rem and.257 Roberts.

    I absolutely concur that the recoil will be similar in all respects to the .308 (made mention of it concerning the 7-08 162 load).

    OP, if both of your rifles are long action Savages, then I suggest you consider the 6.5x55. It can be loaded with the same lightweight pills as the CM and .260 for your son and loaded to near 6.5x284 velocities with the heavier bullets for you.
     
    #42
    Re: .260, 7mm-.08, or 6.5 Creedmore?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wannashootit</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BoilerUP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you're looking for a Savage prefit, the Criterion offered by Jim Briggs @ Northland Shooters Supply has gotten rave reviews...I'm quite happy with mine.

    A 26" varmint contour barrel is $280. </div></div>

    Thanks, Boiler...did not know about them. </div></div>

    Looked into them on their section @ Savageshooters forum.
    Decent selection... but only SS. I would have preferred Chrome-Moly in the white- but hey, I don't want to wait six months so I'll have to settle.

    I called ER Shaw as well, and they're six months out for a barrel order.

    You'd never know we were in such a shit economy by the way gunsmiths and barrel manufacturers are booked. I'm in the wrong motherf'in business...
     
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