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300WM-WSM
10/13/2014 Last edited 10/15/2014 by skarpskytter

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300 WM

Winchester brass
180gr Accubond
68gr H4350
Rem Mag primer

My elk hunting load for this year......

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Re: 300WM-WSM
10/14/2014

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300WM

Norma Brass

210 Berger VLD (.020 off Lands)

75g H1000

Fed 215M Primers

2775 FPS

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Re: 300WM-WSM
10/14/2014

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300 WM

Bat dual port
Lilja 1-10" 3 groove 31"

Brass Lapua
Primer 215m
Bullet hornady 208 Amax
Powder H1000 75.5 velocity 2864 fps
OAL measured from ogive 2.927

Another load I found

Brass Lapua
Primer fed 215m
Bullet Berger 230 OTM
Powder H1000 75.0 grains velocity 2805 fps
OAL measured from ogive 2.950
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Re: 300WM-WSM
10/14/2014
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Re: 300WM-WSM
10/16/2014

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Norma brass
Berger 215 Hybrid
Federal 215M
78gr H1000
0.015" off the land

Been to damn busy with work to get in chrono'd but shoots nice
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Re: 300WM-WSM
10/16/2014 Last edited 10/16/2014 by rhildy77

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300 WM
Winchester brass
Fed 215M
75.7 H1000
Berger 230 OTM
COAL 3.610
FPS 2885
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Re: 300WM-WSM
10/18/2014
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30" Broughton. 5 c 1:10 twist. Trued 700 action. AICS 1.5


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Re: 300WM-WSM
10/23/2014

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300 WSM
Nosler Brass
208 Amax
67.5gr H4831sc
Fed 210M
.325 MOA out of HS HTR
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Norma Brass
185 VLD Hybrid
68.2gr H4831sc
Fed 210M, have used WLRM with similar results
.275 MOA
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Re: 300WM-WSM
10/25/2014

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300WM
Federal Brass
208 Amax
76gr Retumbo
215GM
29 inch Krieger
Remington Action
.3 moa/3050fps
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Re: 300WM-WSM
11/06/2014

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.300 wm

RWS Brass

208gr A-Max

65.0gr Reloader 22

Fed 215 LMR



2718fps out of 26" Bartein 1-10 5r

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Re: 300WM-WSM
11/07/2014

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Re: 300WM-WSM
11/28/2014

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Savage 110BA

norma brass

GM215M

208 Amax

74.4 H1000

about .010 off lands

I heard 76.8 or so is very good also. I never got that high yet. I saw where 74.4 was working for me. Any thoughts?

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Re: 300WM-WSM
11/29/2014

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Savage 110BA

norma brass

GM215M

208 Amax

74.4 H1000

about .010 off lands

I heard 76.8 or so is very good also. I never got that high yet. I saw where 74.4 was working for me. Any thoughts?



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Yeah , your at a lower node. I found another node at 76.8. About 2880 from a 26" bbl
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Re: 300WM-WSM
11/29/2014

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Looks like I may have to venture into that area.

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Re: 300WM-WSM
12/09/2014

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Badger M2013
26" Hawk Hill Barrel long throat for 230gr berger hybrids
300WM
208gr Amax
Fed Brass
78.5gr H1000
Fed 210M Primer
.005" off lands
2950 fps
SD: 5
.342" 5 shots at 100yds

 

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Re: 300WM-WSM
12/12/2014 Last edited 02/11/2015 by Aimsmall55

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30" Broughton 5c 1:10. 230 OTM at 2.987 to ogive. Was 50 degrees but brass was MUCH colder as it had been 34 degrees that morning.

2840 fps

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Re: 300WM-WSM
12/14/2014 Last edited 02/11/2015 by Aimsmall55
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Went back and looked at Oheler 35p print out and it was actually 2974 fps average.

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Re: 300WM-WSM
01/28/2015 Last edited 01/28/2015 by brentac

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A few sweet loads for the 300 WSM out my 26" bbl. All loads have tested 1/2 MOA or better from at least 300 yards.

210 Berger, 66.0 7828SSC, CCI 250, Norma brass, .005 off lands, 2832 fps

210 ABLR, 66.0 7828SSC, CCI 250, Norma brass, .095 off lands, 2847 fps

200 Accubond, 67.0 7828SSC, Fed 210M, Norma brass, .040 off lands, 2917 fps

200 Accubond, 63.0 RL17, Fed 210M, Norma brass, .040 off lands, 2960 fps

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Re: 300WM-WSM
01/30/2015

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Thanks for sharing the knowledge guys. Make sure to post up barrel length also with load info.

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Re: 300WM-WSM
01/31/2015

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Anyone have a load for 175gr SMK in the 300 wsm? Im trying h4350 with a cci LRM as soon as the weather clears up a little.

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Re: 300WM-WSM
02/11/2015

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SS5r MILSPEC Rem 700. 26" factory bbl, thruster break.
200 grain Berger Hybrid at 2.945 to ogive
Nosler Brass, fgm215, 78.0 H1000
Speed???? If I had to guess I'd say upper mid 2900's.

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Re: 300WM-WSM
02/12/2015
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.300 Win Mag
AI AXMC
20" Bartlein 5R
RWS brass
215 Berger Hybrid
H1000 76.2 gr
Federal GM215M
3.632" COAL
2.820" CBTO .015" jump
2820 fps avg

Shoots in the .3's in my rifle, so far... going to play with seating depth a bit & see what happens.
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Re: 300WM-WSM
02/14/2015
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Update on my AI AXMC load development...

.300 Win Mag
20" Bartlein
RWS virgin brass
215 Berger Hybrid
H1000 76.6 gr
Federal GM215M
3.637" COAL
2.825" CBTO .010" jump
2843 fps avg
2848 high velocity
2840 low velocity
ES 8
SD 3.0
Through Magnetospeed V3
Solid .5 MOA @ 200 yards & 13-18 MPH winds today
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Re: 300WM-WSM
02/15/2015 Last edited 02/15/2015 by Pack51479

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180 Accubond - 81.2 grains H1000 @ 3.5" @ 3065 fps
208 Amax- 76 grains H1000 @ 3.610" @ 2850 fps

26" Bartlein barrel.
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Re: 300WM-WSM
03/06/2015

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Nice groups. Good post.

I was looking for some load data on a 30'' pipe 300win mag.

I'm running a bartlein 30'' 5r 1-10 Rem 700 trued.

I'm hoping to break the barrel in this weekend, anyway just looking for some advice on charge weight. Nothin in the books really available for running long pipe, its always 24inch stuff.

Because I'm running that longdong I don't want to under charge. I want to work up some loads from minimum charge weight to max.

I have LR-23 because that's all that's available right now, 250prim, 208gr. Amax.

I plane on going with some 230's soon, and hopefully l can score some h1000 or retumbo, but for now this is what I got.

Have you ever messed with LR-23 ?



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Re: 300WM-WSM
03/10/2015

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Re: 300WM-WSM
04/03/2015 Last edited 04/06/2015 by GhengisAhn175

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300WM
29" Kreiger 5R 1:10 twist

Remington RP brass
208gr AMAX
70.0gr IMR 4831
FGMM 210M primers

TGT distances @ 100 yards 5 shot groups

AVG velocity: 2910
ES: 29.7
SD: 9.8

4-2 seated @ 20 thousandths off the lands
vertical: .532" outside to outside -.308 = .224"
horizontal: .610" outside to outside - .308 = .308"

4-3 seated @ 30 thousandths off the lands
vertical: .455" outside to outside - .308 = .147"
horizontal: .530" outside to outside -.308 = .222"

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Re: 300WM-WSM
04/05/2015

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My go-to load:

300WM Norma brass

Fed 215 GM primer

Berger 210 VLD hunting

79gr H1000

ES: 11 fps

Vel: 2967 fps from my 25.5" Bartlien #4 barrel

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Re: 300WM-WSM
04/13/2015

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120 yards. 2975 fps

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Re: 300WM-WSM
04/15/2015

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Same rifle (700 action trued , 30" Broughton 5c 1:10)
208 amax at 2.886 to ogive ( that's a 115/1000" jump! )78.0 Retumbo. Fgm215
1x RP brass, shoulder bumped 1.5/1000"s and used a .334 bushing.
Don't know speed.

In the .2's ctc...... 4 shots. 103 yards
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Re: 300WM-WSM
04/17/2015

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300 WSM

1/10 Bartlein #3 at 23 inches.

208 AMAX

64 GR. IMR4831

Norma Brass sized with Redding FL bushing die .335

CCI250

2.218 Ogive to Base around 2.965 COAL to fit mag. About .040 jump.

This load is .3 to .4 MOA. Average speed is exactly 2800 FPS. ES of 25 and SD of 8.

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Re: 300WM-WSM
04/25/2015

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Same rifle ( Broughton 5c 1:10 at 30" with a Thruster Break and trued 700 action in AICS. )
Fireformed Lapua Brass, bumped shoulder back 2/1000" and had a .334 bushing.
*** HOT LOAD****
80.5 h1000, 215 Berger at 2.955 to ogive. Lapua brass, Fgm215m.
1/2 moa at 100 yards.
3,060 fps. Spread of 14 fps.
A LITTLE BIT OF A STICKY BOLT BUT NOTHING MAJOR

79.5 H1000, virgin Lapua brass, 215 Berger at 2.955 to ogive.
3,043 fps. 1/3 moa.

230 OTM with Nosler virgin brass, 76.36 Retumbo, 3.613 coal (can't remember ogive). Fgm215 m.
2860 fps. .27 moa.

All were shot at 65 degrees F. With Ohelor 35p at 15 feet.

You must remember that my throat is VERY long on this rifle and while they are VERY LONG COAL's , I would not reccomend loading these powder charges right off the bat. Start slow and work up !!
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Re: 300WM-WSM
04/26/2015

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Savage 110 BA 300WM.
76.7 H1000 (low node is 74.4)
208 Amax
Norma brass
Fed 215M primers
First 3 shots were same hole at 200 yds. Bipod front/ sandbag/shoulder rear. Very happy with this combo!!

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Re: 300WM-WSM
06/15/2015 Last edited 06/15/2015 by Emouse

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Aimsmall55 wrote: Same rifle ( Broughton 5c 1:10 at 30" with a Thruster Break and trued 700 action in AICS. )
Fireformed Lapua Brass, bumped shoulder back 2/1000" and had a .334 bushing.
*** HOT LOAD****
80.5 h1000, 215 Berger at 2.955 to ogive. Lapua brass, Fgm215m.
1/2 moa at 100 yards.
3,060 fps. Spread of 14 fps.
A LITTLE BIT OF A STICKY BOLT BUT NOTHING MAJOR

79.5 H1000, virgin Lapua brass, 215 Berger at 2.955 to ogive.
3,043 fps. 1/3 moa.

230 OTM with Nosler virgin brass, 76.36 Retumbo, 3.613 coal (can't remember ogive). Fgm215 m.
2860 fps. .27 moa.

All were shot at 65 degrees F. With Ohelor 35p at 15 feet.

You must remember that my throat is VERY long on this rifle and while they are VERY LONG COAL's , I would not reccomend loading these powder charges right off the bat. Start slow and work up !!


Wow,..seriously compressed loads. Whats the brass look like after a couple fireings? Barrel life??​

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Re: 300WM-WSM
06/26/2015 Last edited 06/30/2015 by LawnRanger

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Good Morning Gentlemen,

I am now starting to load for my new Masterpiece Arms 300 WM and have been paying

close attention to this thread for initial guidance. The rifle is chambered for the 190 gr. FGMM

but I have no plan to shoot that. i just picked up a set of redding S Type comp dies and plan

to use a .334 NiTri bushing. I have 100 Norma cases and a bunch of Federal match magnum primers.

I will use H1000 as propellant and will try the Berger 230/215's/208 Amaxes to see what shoots best.

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Re: 300WM-WSM
07/19/2015

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Are you guys running the 230's in 10 twist barrels?
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Re: 300WM-WSM
07/23/2015

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I do and they stabilize fine, though I'd guess barely. When I re barrel I'll go 1-9.

300 win mag
230 Berger
69 grains RL 22
2850 fps from a 22" krieger and suppressor

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Re: 300WM-WSM
08/06/2015

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Re: 300WM-WSM
08/08/2015

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I'm looking to load some 215 Hybrids in Norma brass for my 110 BA. Using H4831SC.

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Re: 300WM-WSM
08/09/2015

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Sorry. Meant to say H1000. Looks like 76.4-78.5?

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Re: 300WM-WSM
08/16/2015

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Remington 700 SS5R 26" bbl. 208 AMAX , 72.5 reloader22. Fgm215m.

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Re: 300WM-WSM
08/17/2015 Last edited 08/17/2015 by Dogsniper

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Which do you like best for accuracy and temp non sensitivity . Retumbo, h1000' or rl22 ?
I have a 28" Krueger I tried h4831 velocity with 208 amax was in the 2800 range

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Remington 700 SS5R 26" bbl. 208 AMAX , 72.5 reloader22. Fgm215m.

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Re: 300WM-WSM
08/17/2015

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Which do you like best for accuracy and temp non sensitivity . Retumbo, h1000' or rl22 ?
I have a 28" Krueger I tried h4831 velocity with 208 amax was in the 2800 range

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Remington 700 SS5R 26" bbl. 208 AMAX , 72.5 reloader22. Fgm215m.

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As far as accuracy goes with a 26 inch barrel, I have always gotten better accuracy from reloader 22. Say I get a .3 inch group with reloader 22 hour usually get a .5 inch group with H 1000. However, in my 30 inch Broughton 5C barrel ,pushing the 215 Berger with H1000 and the 230 Berger with Retumbo gives me AWESOME speed and accuracy. But it seems like Retumbo will shoot the 208 AMAX 215 and 230 just as good as H 1000.
For instance, I'm running 80 Grains of Retumbo with the 208 at 3.620 inches (AI mag length) at 3,045 fps out of my Broughton and it's VERY ACCURATE.
With a 28" bbl H1000 will probably be the best in terms of getting the most of "powder burnt ". I've been able to push the 215 at 3,045 fps with H1000 ! 10.2 mils to 1330 yards. But if H1000 won't do it, there is a member on here with a 28 or 29" Bartlein that's getting EXCELLENT speed and accuracy out of IMR4831. You may want to just pick up a pound at a time... H1000, imr7828ssc, Retumbo , Imr4831, and even power pro 4000mr. The 4000 mr was pushing the 208 AMAX out of my 5R at over 3,000 fps. It's a powder that will push the 200's to 215's with GREAT SPEED AND ACCURACY.
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Re: 300WM-WSM
08/18/2015

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Thanks for the reply . I have h1000 and rl22 I'll test those and see what I get. If it int what I want I'll buy a pound here and ther of the others you mentioned. Thanks


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Which do you like best for accuracy and temp non sensitivity . Retumbo, h1000' or rl22 ?
I have a 28" Krueger I tried h4831 velocity with 208 amax was in the 2800 range

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Remington 700 SS5R 26" bbl. 208 AMAX , 72.5 reloader22. Fgm215m.

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As far as accuracy goes with a 26 inch barrel, I have always gotten better accuracy from reloader 22. Say I get a .3 inch group with reloader 22 hour usually get a .5 inch group with H 1000. However, in my 30 inch Broughton 5C barrel ,pushing the 215 Berger with H1000 and the 230 Berger with Retumbo gives me AWESOME speed and accuracy. But it seems like Retumbo will shoot the 208 AMAX 215 and 230 just as good as H 1000.
For instance, I'm running 80 Grains of Retumbo with the 208 at 3.620 inches (AI mag length) at 3,045 fps out of my Broughton and it's VERY ACCURATE.
With a 28" bbl H1000 will probably be the best in terms of getting the most of "powder burnt ". I've been able to push the 215 at 3,045 fps with H1000 ! 10.2 mils to 1330 yards. But if H1000 won't do it, there is a member on here with a 28 or 29" Bartlein that's getting EXCELLENT speed and accuracy out of IMR4831. You may want to just pick up a pound at a time... H1000, imr7828ssc, Retumbo , Imr4831, and even power pro 4000mr. The 4000 mr was pushing the 208 AMAX out of my 5R at over 3,000 fps. It's a powder that will push the 200's to 215's with GREAT SPEED AND ACCURACY.

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Aimsmall55
What velocity did you get the 230 hybrid target to and what accuracy did you get with it.
Thanks
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Aimsmall55
What velocity did you get the 230 hybrid target to and what accuracy did you get with it.
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Jon, I shoot the 230 hybrids out of a 30" Broughton 5c. With 76.36 grains of Retumbo, and RP brass I'm getting about 2950 fps. With Nosler and Norma, I'm getting about 2925. The rifle still hammers, but the bbl has certainly slowed down. As a matter of fact, 76.36 is a lower node because I am seating them 2.975" to the ogive which has way less pressure. So thus weekend I'm going to bump it up to around 77 & 78 grains. Try and hit a higher node.

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08/21/2015

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Aimsmall55
I tried the 230 hybrid target with retumbo today. 75.7 grains netted 2885 fps and accuracy in the .3's. I had the same accuracy at 0.020 and 0.100 off the lands. The barrel is a 28" benchmark. I'm going to work up to 77.0 and see what the groups look like. Thanks for your help.
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Aimsmall55
I tried the 230 hybrid target with retumbo today. 75.7 grains netted 2885 fps and accuracy in the .3's. I had the same accuracy at 0.020 and 0.100 off the lands. The barrel is a 28" benchmark. I'm going to work up to 77.0 and see what the groups look like. Thanks for your help.
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Jon, glad it's working for you. Not a problem at all pointing you that way. Good luck and keep me posted.

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08/28/2015

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Thanks to Dan Newberry, I've found 77.2 H1000 pushes the 215 Hybrids very nicely.
77.2 H1000
215 Hybrid
GM215M
Norma brass, neck sized and collet sized(Willis)
Savage 110BA

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08/30/2015 Last edited 08/30/2015 by Smokerroller

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400 YARDS

Load details in first two Pics. Also running .001" neck tension. Kissing the Lands.
This is a hot load!
Based on Applied Ballistics the 210 gr VLD might be moving at about 2700 FPS out of a 23" factory barrel SUPPRESSED.
I have not confirmed drop any further than 400 yards as of yet.



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smoker,

Very nice rifle. I love Tikka. unbelievably accurate for some $650 rifle. And for its weight too and how thin is the barrel.

What kind of Magazine you are using? Would it work with no modification to the Tikka stock?

 

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09/04/2015

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scorpion168 wrote:
Thanks to Dan Newberry, I've found 77.2 H1000 pushes the 215 Hybrids very nicely.
77.2 H1000
215 Hybrid
GM215M
Norma brass, neck sized and collet sized(Willis)
Savage 110BA​

Whats your speed and barrel length with that load? Im pushing the 215's out of a 28" Bartlein at 2950 fps with 76.6 gr H1000 and 210m primer. Im pretty happy with the speed and the load. Just curious what the extra .6 grains makes in fps difference.

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09/07/2015

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I don't shoot with a chrono. It's the 26" barrel. I just shoot for pleasure, although I'm very "personally" competitive. A chronograph is in my future.

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09/09/2015

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The mag is an AI 338 non CIP in CDI bottom metal. The CDI bottom metal is using the .060" longer paddle. The action required a feed ramp to feed reliably because the mag could not get the cartidge high enough. I inlet and bedded the DBM myself. A skim bed will not work on these stocks. There is not alot of material that had to be removed from the stock.


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smoker,



Very nice rifle. I love Tikka. unbelievably accurate for some $650 rifle. And for its weight too and how thin is the barrel.



What kind of Magazine you are using? Would it work with no modification to the Tikka stock?



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09/11/2015

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Smokerroller wrote: [IMG2=JSON]{"alt":" photo 20150830_132848_zps4palsoos.jpg","data-align":"none","data-size":"full","height":"807","width":"454","src":"http:\/\/i1381.photobucket.com\/albums\/ah240\/dj870supermag\/Mobile%20Uploads\/20150830_132848_zps4palsoos.jpg"}[/IMG2]


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400 YARDS

Load details in first two Pics. Also running .001" neck tension. Kissing the Lands.
This is a hot load!
Based on Applied Ballistics the 210 gr VLD might be moving at about 2700 FPS out of a 23" factory barrel SUPPRESSED.
I have not confirmed drop any further than 400 yards as of yet.



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good write up,..very useful!
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10/03/2015

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30" Broughton 5c 1:10.
230 Hybrid Target
Norma Brass ( annealed) sized with a .332 bushing
Fgm215m
73.7 IMR7828SSC
5 SD
AVG 2955 Fps

WARNING *** RIFLE HAS A VERY LONG THROAT...WORK UP TO THIS!!!***

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10/08/2015

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300WM LRI build w/ Chad's Mk248 Mod1 reamer

Berger 215 hybrid seated 2.862" @ ogive

Hornady brass

77gr H1000

2920fps from a 26" obermeyer

FGMM 215 primer

Shoots in the .3's - .5's at 200y

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10/18/2015 Last edited 10/18/2015 by loudandproudIII

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imgur.com/apPjxYL

NOTE: These are very stout loads and should not be attempted in a std chamber.

Rifle:
Savage M110
XLR Chassis
28" Criterion Barrel; 300 Win magnum Match chamber (.160 freebore)

Federal Military Pulldown brass
81.0 grains of Retumbo (very compressed)
208 Amax seated .010" off the lands (3.640" COAL)
Federal Magnum primer

3130 FPS. No signs of pressure.. at all. I imagine this is due to the match chamber.





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11/05/2015

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22" Rock Creek

208 Amax

71 grains of RL 22

Touching the lands

2798 5 shot average

SD 10.4

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11/22/2015

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I am having a new barrel cut for my 300 WSM. I am having the chamber cut for the 215 hybrids. How much freebies should I have cut? I do plan to run them out of an AICS mag so my COAL is limited to 2.960-965. Do these cancel each other out? What COAL do you all have with the 215 hybrids?

 

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12/30/2015 Last edited 02/23/2016 by washington121

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Factory sendero Sfii 300 wm 26" 1-10
Nosler brass
Cci 200
3.679 oal .002 off lands
79 grains r-26
215 hybrids
3030 at 55 degrees at sea level basically.
A touch of pressure but no bolt
Lift issues! With the 210 and 215 they really tighten up with both h1000 and r-26 at the higher velocities for me!

As always don't try this load work up and find what is adequate for your rifle!

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02/05/2016
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Why are the 300 and 300 WSM on the same thread?
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02/08/2016

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Agreed. Also it would help to include the twist rate of your barrels.
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02/17/2016

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Why are the 300 and 300 WSM on the same thread?

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I agree. They are not the same and digging through looking for one or the other is a pain. Would suck if a guy wasn't paying attention and tried to stuff 70+ grains of powder in a wsm.
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03/10/2016

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@ aimsmall55: Waste of a magnum at those distances, in my opinion. What's happening at 500-700 yds? That's what counts!

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03/10/2016

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I don't know about aimsmall, but I don't shoot too man groups past 300yrds. Past that I'm shooting steel mostly, hit or miss. That's what counts!
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I don't know about aimsmall, but I don't shoot too man groups past 300yrds. Past that I'm shooting steel mostly, hit or miss. That's what counts!

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1200 yards. 230 otm.
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@ aimsmall55: Waste of a magnum at those distances, in my opinion. What's happening at 500-700 yds? That's what counts!



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500 yards. 208 AMAX. SS 5R mil spec @ 26" 1:10. 72.4 PP4000mr.
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72.7 R22. 208 AMAX. 1202 yards.
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03/21/2016

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Re: 300WM-WSM
04/01/2016 Last edited 04/08/2016 by GhengisAhn175

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300wm

Bullet: Hornady 208 ELD-M
Powder: H4831sc
Primer: federal 210M
Brass: ruag (RWS)

45 thousandths jump from lands

AVG MV: 2815
ES: 12
SD: 4

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04/03/2016

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Ghengis how ya getting your SD down to 4? Thats awesome.

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04/04/2016

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Careful case prep and charge weighing I better
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Re: 300WM-WSM
04/04/2016

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scorpion168 wrote:
Thanks to Dan Newberry, I've found 77.2 H1000 pushes the 215 Hybrids very nicely.
77.2 H1000
215 Hybrid
GM215M
Norma brass, neck sized and collet sized(Willis)
Savage 110BA​

What speeds are you getting with this load? Dan Newberry's a great resource and super nice guy!!

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Ghengis how ya getting your SD down to 4? Thats awesome.
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For those interested I wrote about my load development for this particular load + the one I posted in the 260 Remington sticky here:

mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=541&f=5532&t=14642520
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04/18/2016

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I have a question regarding the Hornady 208 ELD-M. If you are shooting this bullet, are you guy's jumping this bullet more than the original 208? I can not get an acceptable group at 300 with this bullet. The original 208's shot well for me. I do have a new barrel with a .125 freebore for the 208's - 210's. Have shot 50 rounds with it and still am not pleased. I have tried H1000 and H4831. They do good at 100, but that wont work at distance. I have a canister of RL22 which I may try next. My speed is good at 2780 with a moderate load of H4831 and H1000.



Barrel: Bartlein 1:10 27". .125 freebore.

RWS brass

215M primers.

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04/25/2016

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Start at 10 thousandths off the lands and increase in .5 increments out to a 50
Thousandths jump.

I'd do 2 rounds per to save some time but it'll also break in the barrel
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04/30/2016

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Just beginning to load 300 WM - this post will be very helpful...

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05/21/2016

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501EOD wrote:

I have a question regarding the Hornady 208 ELD-M. If you are shooting this bullet, are you guy's jumping this bullet more than the original 208? I can not get an acceptable group at 300 with this bullet. The original 208's shot well for me. I do have a new barrel with a .125 freebore for the 208's - 210's. Have shot 50 rounds with it and still am not pleased. I have tried H1000 and H4831. They do good at 100, but that wont work at distance. I have a canister of RL22 which I may try next. My speed is good at 2780 with a moderate load of H4831 and H1000.

Barrel: Bartlein 1:10 27". .125 freebore.

RWS brass

215M primers.​

You are shooting them too slow. Increase speed by about 100 FPS. I'm jumping .060" or so.

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06/18/2016

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I just found this load for my .300 WM and it seems to hold well to 1000. Not as fast as some, but very accurate.

26" Bartlien 1:10

RWS Brass

215M

73.5 H1000

215 Bergers

2.830 BTO

Magnetospeed 2860, SD 21/ES69

SD is a bit too high and I will do a primer change to see if I can get it down. But, it did not rear its head from 600 to 1000.



Note: 200 Berger Hybrids shot very well with 70.0 H4831, no data on those yet.

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07/20/2016
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New load I've been playing with. Beginning to wonder about switching to this from Retumbo.
73.1 IMR7828 SSC
230 Berger otm @ 2.906 to ogive.
1x RP brass.... shoulder bumped 3/1000"s with Redding fl type s and a .332 bushing.
4 shots at 200 yards.

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Re: 300WM-WSM
09/06/2016

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215 Hybrids
77 grains H1000
30 thou off the lands
FC Brass
CCI 200

Shoots half inch at 100
26 inch MTU 10 twist Krieger on a TAC 300 in an AI Chassis

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09/10/2016 Last edited 12/22/2016 by Emouse
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501 EOD SAID IN EARLIER POST,.......I just found this load for my .300 WM and it seems to hold well to 1000. Not as fast as some, but very accurate.

26" Bartlien 1:10

RWS Brass

215M

73.5 H1000

215 Bergers

2.830 BTO

Magnetospeed 2860, SD 21/ES69

SD is a bit too high and I will do a primer change to see if I can get it down. But, it did not rear its head from 600 to 1000.









215M primers in close to same load gave me fits. It was the crap QC on the fed primers that produced high SD.

A softer primer (ruski) or CCI200/BR2 better than halved the SD and gave sub 0.5 MOA consistent groups.

 

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09/19/2016 Last edited 09/19/2016 by prashants17

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For Savage 110 BA 300WM, 26 in Barrel.



Sierra 220 Matchking HPBC. BC 0.629, SD 0.331



IMR 4831 (69 to Max 71 grains)



COAL - For MY Savage - 3.459 Savage



69, 69.5 & 70 grains 1 hole 5 shots @ 100 yds



69 grams - velocity 2880 ( 26 inch Savage Barrel)

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Re: 300WM-WSM
09/22/2016

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My load is the same. But I get 2720 fps and use Norma brass.
I jump the bullet .04"

501EOD wrote:

I just found this load for my .300 WM and it seems to hold well to 1000. Not as fast as some, but very accurate.

26" Bartlien 1:10

RWS Brass

215M

73.5 H1000

215 Bergers

2.830 BTO

Magnetospeed 2860, SD 21/ES69

SD is a bit too high and I will do a primer change to see if I can get it down. But, it did not rear its head from 600 to 1000.

Note: 200 Berger Hybrids shot very well with 70.0 H4831, no data on those yet.​

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11/29/2016

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prashants17 wrote:

For Savage 110 BA 300WM, 26 in Barrel.

Sierra 220 Matchking HPBC. BC 0.629, SD 0.331

IMR 4831 (69 to Max 71 grains)

COAL - For MY Savage - 3.459 Savage

69, 69.5 & 70 grains 1 hole 5 shots @ 100 yds

69 grams - velocity 2880 ( 26 inch Savage Barrel)​

69 grams ??
I'll take you mean grains

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01/17/2017 Last edited 01/17/2017 by Emouse

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Jaxdialation wrote:
My load is the same. But I get 2720 fps and use Norma brass.
I jump the bullet .04"

501EOD wrote:

I just found this load for my .300 WM and it seems to hold well to 1000. Not as fast as some, but very accurate.

26" Bartlien 1:10

RWS Brass

215M

73.5 H1000

215 Bergers

2.830 BTO

Magnetospeed 2860, SD 21/ES69

SD is a bit too high and I will do a primer change to see if I can get it down. But, it did not rear its head from 600 to 1000.

Note: 200 Berger Hybrids shot very well with 70.0 H4831, no data on those yet.



Jax,..the norma brass has I think quite a bit more capacity than the RWS, hence the lower velocity? Try running it up in QuikLoad as you may be able to push faster safely?

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28" 1:9 5r .300 win mag - Model 70

208 ELD-M - 3.55"
3069 fps (SD 2 ES 6)
78.0 gr Retumbo
Hornady Brass
Win LRM primer
work up to this load.

​​​​208 ELD-M - 3.65"
3030 fps (SD 3 ES 9)
76.0 gr H1000
Hornady Brass
WIN LRM primer

 

[Fenix Mike]

I am loading 208 amax over RL-22 into FC brass. I have noticed that federal brass is heavier than others and I am assuming this means less volume inside. With a recent test I was loading per Hornadys data and getting velocities above what the book indicates. Worked up to the max load with this result.

72.4gr RL-22
215M
FC 07 Brass
208gr AMax
COL 3.43"

5 shot group with an avg velocity of 3059fps

Just to touch on your comments, using FC brass and Norma brass with identical bullets, primers, OAL and using RL17 for powder , the Norma brass required 1.4 grains MORE of the same powder to achieve the same velocity as the FC brass on a 5 shot average with a low SD.

 

[Desert_Racer]

Norma Brass
208 ELD-M
CCI 250
2.86" to ogive

I ran two ladder tests at 300 yards this afternoon, from 76.2-78.5gr of H1000, both ascending and descending. I found a node from 77.7-78.2. Between both tests, this node yielded an average of 0.44"/0.14MOA vertical spread. I will be running with 78.0gr most likely. I had no pressure signs, and I suspect I could venture into the 79.5gr range before things start getting hairy.

 

[Desert_Racer]

More testing today. Ran the following:

Norma Brass
208 ELD-M
CCI 250
2.86" to ogive
78.0gr H1000
26.5” Lilja

7 shot average was 2980, SD of 13.8. The neck tension was kind of all over the place, so I expect to be in the single digits on the next firing. Shot this load all the way out to 1650 today successfully, on a 66% IPSC silhouette.

 

[Brentc]

300 WSM

I recently worked a load with RL26 in the 300 WSM. It turned out to be a fantastic hunting load that is surprisingly temperature stable. I did, however, experience some lot to lot variance when changing from 1lb bottles to an 8lb jug. The 8lb jug ended up being a slower burn rate and required .6 grains more powder to put it where it needed to be.

The initial load from the 1lb bottle:

300 WSM, 26" Pac Nor bbl, Win 70 WSM action
68.7 grains of RL26
200 grain ELD-X seated .020" off the lands
CCI250
Norma brass
.3 MOA group at 340 yards
3017 fps at 70*F and 3010 fps at 17*F

Reworked load from the 8lb bottle uses the same components above with the powder charge increased to 69.3 grains to equal the initial results.

 

[Black max]

Why are the 300wm and the 300wsm in the same thread???

 

[goinghunting]

Couldn't agree more with black max. Having 300 WSM and 300 Win Mag in same thread is ridiculous.

 

[goinghunting]

For 300 WSM

Have loads worked up with RL23 and 175 & 210 hunting VLDs, also 190 Accubond LR w/H4831.

Need a day that isn't blowing 40mph or -20F... Might be a while!

 

[LarryRut191]

Re: Loads for .300WM

300WM Rem 700P factory tube setback to +.012 from zero headspace on shoulder. ***Work up to these loads as no load will shoot the same pressures in different chamber/bore!

Both these are .5 moa loads in my rifle.

SMK 220 grain 2925ish fps
Win Case
73.0 gr RL25
215M primer

Fed GMM clone load
SMK 190 gr
Win case
65 gr IMR4350
fed215M

 

[LarryRut191]

Re: Loads for .300WM

300WM Rem 700P factory tube setback to +.012 from zero headspace on shoulder. ***Work up to these loads as no load will shoot the same pressures in different chamber/bore!

Both these are .5 moa loads in my rifle.

SMK 220 grain 2925ish fps
Win Case
73.0 gr RL25
215M primer

Fed GMM clone load
SMK 190 gr
Win case
65 gr IMR4350
fed215M[/QUOTE

On this second load is this what you have tested in your rifle to be best load with 190 SMK? I am still experimenting with powder amounts and just curious about others success and other general safety consideration that I should be making just getting into hand loading

 

[BJames]

Anybody have a Win mag load with 215 Bergers and RL 26?

 

[silentnswift]

Anybody shooting the 208 gr. Eld-m? Planning to load them in win brass over h1000.

 

[Dank27]

Thats my next work up. My rifle seems to like H1000 with a wide array of bullet weights.

 

[Dank27]

Anybody shooting the 208 gr. Eld-m? Planning to load them in win brass over h1000.

That my next work up. My rifle like h1000 with a wide array of bullet weights

 

[silentnswift]

Started last night, had trouble finding info for this powder in 208 gr. Hornady did not have it listed got data from hodgdon. 78gr max load. Start load 71.7. Increasing in .5 increments. I seated the bullets at 3.6, my chamber measured at 3.668. The listed 3.42 col is way too short for a 200 grain bullet imo.

 

[eicas]

Anybody shooting the 208 gr. Eld-m? Planning to load them in win brass over h1000.

Work and family has kept me away a while, but getting back slowly.

I have a Tac 300 that “really” liked the old 208amax. Sweet spot on that was 76.0 H100 jumping .030. Used prepped and sorted Remington brass and Federal 210s. Working now with the ELDm now that my supply of AMAX’s is about gone. Right now got it nailed down to 76.0-77.0gr with all else same. Next time out will go in .3gr steps to see if anything jumps out of what already is looking good. Then will test for length. Right now, it seems to be just a tad faster than the equivolent in the AMAX. This is using a different chrony though...Magnetospeed then, LabRadar now.

Will report back in a week.

 

[mystryak]

Tons of great information...following.

 

[mildot326]

Any suggestions for a "novice" for a Bartlein 28" 1:11.25, using 178 ELD-X or 180 Bergers, nosler brass or norma?
I'm looking for max fps, and long range shooting.

 

[Dakota1028]

#1
Just picked up a bergara hmr 300wm, wondering if anyone has been reloading for it, if so what loads work good. Looking to take it past 1000 once I get a load worked up
Thanks

 

[alaskalanche]

Any suggestions for a "novice" for a Bartlein 28" 1:11.25, using 178 ELD-X or 180 Bergers, nosler brass or norma?
I'm looking for max fps, and long range shooting.

I am getting 3180 fps from my 24" barrel Tikka T3X Lite in 300 WSM using RL-26. Wasn't sure if you are referring to a WM or WSM though.

 

[mildot326]

WM, that's where I'm headed, thanks

 

[Dank27]

Im getting about 3100 fps with 175smk and H1000 out of my bergara premier LR

 

[silentnswift]

I have a box of 168 a max I was thinking of loading up for whitetail. Hodgdon list loads for h1000 in win brass with wlrm. Starting at 79 grain with a max of 84 gr. Around 3110 fps.
Anyone loaded in this combo? 84 gr. Seems a little heavy... maybe I'm just being timid.

 

[platapus]

.300 WM- Lone Peak Arms Fuzion TI- 28" Proof 1-9.4"

Berger 215gr Hybrid, ADG brass, 77gr H1000, BTO 2.852 in AICS mag, 10 shot average 2994

 

[Dschapp44]

Rifle is Trued Remington 700 with a 26 inch Krieger barrel chambered by Northwest Action Works. Hornady 195 grain match ammo is going 2950 FPS

215
Hornady Brass
Federal 215M Primers
H1000 76.5 grains
Berger 215 Hybrid
Seated .020 of lands
Velocity 2970
SD 8

 

[Fat Dark Earth]

Anyone shooting a 22” barrel? Trying to use 180elites in what I believe to be 10 twist Shilen/tac300 combo.
Currently trying h4831sc velocity test with no real nodes popping.
Thanks

 

[Brent B]

RPR 300 Win Mag. H1000 76.2 gr, Hornady 212 ELD-M touching lands 3.597" OAL, GM215M primers, Hornady virgin brass FLS and trimmed with necks slightly (50%) cleaned up, weight sorted brass and bullets. 2908 fps average (my SDs at 13). Shot a 3 shot group of 1.2 inches and another 5 shot group of 1.25 inches at 300 yds today. Many thanks to this reloading depot for giving me a starting point for my loads.

 

[psychosniper]

Rifle:

300WM
Stiller Tac300
22” Lilja 1-10
TBAC Ultra 7
McMillan A5
AICS magazine

Loads:

208 eld-m @3.560” coal
.030” jump
New Nosler brass, .306 expander
CCI 250
76.2 H4831sc
2910 fps with Magneto V3
SD 7
ES 15

208 eld-m @ 3.560” coal
.030” jump
1x fire Nosler, full length size, .306 expander
CCI 250
76.4 H4831sc
2912 fps with Magneto V3
SD 5
ES 10

215 Berger Hybrid @ 3.565” coal
.080” jump
New Nosler, Neck sized
CCI 250
74.7 H4831sc
2815 fps
SD 10
ES 20

215 Berger Hybrid @ 3.565” coal
.080” jump
1x fire Nosler, full length size, .306 expander
CCI 250
75.3 H4831sc
2815 fps
SD 8
ES 15

These loads hold .5 MOA or better out to 1,500 yards with no more than 3” of vertical dispersion. They are also located in the center of a .7 grain wide velocity flat spot.

The 208 eld-m out performs the 215 Hybrid in every way from this rifle so I’ve made the switch. I have also found this to be true with the 225 eld-m vs 230 Berger OTM Tactical out of a 26” 1-9 gain twist Bartlien 300wm built on a Deviant.

*3.560” coal is the longest I have found to not damage the meplat under recoil in my AICS magazines.

*All of these loads show slight signs of pressure at .6 grains above these charge weights and are temperature stabile from 90°F down to 30°F.

 

[Brent B]

Rifle:

300WM
Stiller Tac300
22” Lilja 1-10
TBAC Ultra 7
McMillan A5
AICS magazine

Loads:

208 eld-m @3.560” coal
.030” jump
New Nosler brass, .306 expander
CCI 250
76.2 H4831sc
2910 fps with Magneto V3
SD 7
ES 15

208 eld-m @ 3.560” coal
.030” jump
1x fire Nosler, full length size, .306 expander
CCI 250
76.4 H4831sc
2912 fps with Magneto V3
SD 5
ES 10

215 Berger Hybrid @ 3.565” coal
.080” jump
New Nosler, Neck sized
CCI 250
74.7 H4831sc
2815 fps
SD 10
ES 20

215 Berger Hybrid @ 3.565” coal
.080” jump
1x fire Nosler, full length size, .306 expander
CCI 250
75.3 H4831sc
2815 fps
SD 8
ES 15

These loads hold .5 MOA or better out to 1,500 yards with no more than 3” of vertical dispersion. They are also located in the center of a .7 grain wide velocity flat spot.

The 208 eld-m out performs the 215 Hybrid in every way from this rifle so I’ve made the switch. I have also found this to be true with the 225 eld-m vs 230 Berger OTM Tactical out of a 26” 1-9 gain twist Bartlien 300wm built on a Deviant.

*3.560” coal is the longest I have found to not damage the meplat under recoil in my AICS magazines.

*All of these loads show slight signs of pressure at .6 grains above these charge weights and are temperature stabile from 90°F down to 30°F.

Great info. It is interesting that it took an additional 0.2 grain of powder with the 208s vs an additional 0.6 grains with the 215s to maintain the same velocity between virgin and the once fired brass.

 

[Mooseknuckles]

Rifle:

Remington 700 trued action
Bartlein 26 inch barrel with Hawkins 3 port brake.
Timney 517 trigger
Grayboe renegade bedded
Bbl bottom metal.

I used new hornady brass and wlrm primers. Only did two of each to speed up process. Was pretty damn amazed I was able to get some of the es and sd my chrono was showing. May be because I ably loaded two of each.
Going to load up some rounds between 77-77.8 grains of h1000.
The 78 grain load was high on es and sd but put the bullets through the same hole at 135 yards.

 

[Shadow_Warrior]

Remington XM2010
Federal Mil brass 2016 (not a fan of this brass)
Berger 215 Hybrid @ 3.615"
H1000 @77.1gr
CCI 200
5 shot group @ 200y was .38 MOA

(I switched to ABM Brass which I believe to be Norma and my charge was 77.0gr)

 

[Herb Stoner]

I have a 300 WSM and am thinking about loading some 200g ELD-X. Rifle is a Rem 700 with stock action. I know some calibers have COAL issues with some of the recent longer bullets. Am I likely to run into this in 300 WSM?

Thanks in advance

 

[cornhusker86]

I have a 300 WSM and am thinking about loading some 200g ELD-X. Rifle is a Rem 700 with stock action. I know some calibers have COAL issues with some of the recent longer bullets. Am I likely to run into this in 300 WSM?

Thanks in advance

Hornady actually offers that combination in factory loaded ammo. So the short answer is although you can load that bullet, the magazine length will probably prevent you from being able to seat the bullet out far enough to contact the lands. Don't let that stop you from trying the combination.

 

[Conrad]

Yes, the long bullets won’t be seated optimally. The short mags really come into their own when they can be seated out in a medium or long action. I’ve realized this myself with a 7 SAUM.
That being said, I am putting together a multi-barrel short action hunter for 223, 6.5, and 300 WSM. While I know the 300 wsm will be a bit held back, I’d love to see how much ground can be made back up with R26?? If you can get it over 2800 in a 22-24” barrel, then I think it will really perform.

Anyone using R26 in short action 300 wsm?

I have a 300 WSM and am thinking about loading some 200g ELD-X. Rifle is a Rem 700 with stock action. I know some calibers have COAL issues with some of the recent longer bullets. Am I likely to run into this in 300 WSM?

Thanks in advance

 

[Herb Stoner]

Yes, the long bullets won’t be seated optimally. The short mags really come into their own when they can be seated out in a medium or long action. I’ve realized this myself with a 7 SAUM.
That being said, I am putting together a multi-barrel short action hunter for 223, 6.5, and 300 WSM. While I know the 300 wsm will be a bit held back, I’d love to see how much ground can be made back up with R26?? If you can get it over 2800 in a 22-24” barrel, then I think it will really perform.

Anyone using R26 in short action 300 wsm?

Husker and Conrad - thanks for your replies. I'll load some up and see how it goes.

 

[Conrad]

If you have some Reloader 26 it could boost it up! Very curious on your results if you can test some R26. Thanks!

 

[RPR300WM]

Ruger RPR .300 Win Mag 26"

225gr ELD M
Win cases
76.8gr H1000
GM215M primer

2888fps Ave (Prochrono @15')
13 ES
5 SD

Temperature in high 40s. Altitude 1300'

This bullet has a secant ogive that seems to like a bit of jump based upon my experience in this rifle. Fine tuning in the .025-.040" range still in work.

Update: my rifle seems to like 0.030" jump with this bullet

 

[Mooseknuckles]

Remington 700 trued
26 Bartlein barrel Hawkins muzzle brake
Grayboe renegade

208 eldm
Hornady case
79g h1000 this is a hot load! Work up to it.
Coal 3.650
Wlrm primer

Velocity 2955
Sd 10
Es 25

Shot this load today, had slight primer cratering but no other pressure signs.

 

[Stingerup]

210 Berger VLD
Norma brass
78.5 grains of Retumbo
Federal 210M primers
12 thousands jump off the lands is what I seat to.

This gives me 2950 FPS.
Full length size brass in Redding dies.

ETA: I don't know if it's been brought up but Norma brass seems to have the largest capacity. FGMM brass/Hornady seem a little tighter.

 

[RPR300WM]

I had 5 boxes of Hornady 225gr ELD M projectiles and I noticed the bullets in 1 of the 5 boxes were noticeably different. Looking at the lot numbers on the 5 boxes, the oldest is the different one.

Ogive, boat tail length, boattail taper and tip material are all different. I loaded a few and had to adjust seating depth until the same CBTO was achieved. The resulting COAL was visibly different I'll shoot them at short range < 350 yards as I'm sure the visible differences would yield practical B.C. and trajectory differences at long range. They obviously changed the design at some point. As sensitive to theses bullets are to jump distance (for my rifle anyway), I hope they still shoot ok at the same CBTO. Pisses me off as they aren't cheap and I don't appreciate the variability.

 

[RPR300WM]

Update:

Hornady confirmed a design change in April 2018 to help with transonic performance.

 

[alaskalanche]

Yes, the long bullets won’t be seated optimally. The short mags really come into their own when they can be seated out in a medium or long action. I’ve realized this myself with a 7 SAUM.
That being said, I am putting together a multi-barrel short action hunter for 223, 6.5, and 300 WSM. While I know the 300 wsm will be a bit held back, I’d love to see how much ground can be made back up with R26?? If you can get it over 2800 in a 22-24” barrel, then I think it will really perform.

Anyone using R26 in short action 300 wsm?

Yes sir,

I am getting 212 eldx at 2875 fps and 208 ELDM at 2930 fps out of my 22” 300wsm with RL-26. The 208s shot just slightly better so I will likley be going that route.