.308 Winchester

#351
Re: Loads For .308 Winchester

Remington 700P

155 Lapua Scenar
46.8gr RL-15
Winchester Brass
CCI-200 primers
OAL - 2.855"
MV - 2895fps

This bullet is jumping almost .1" to the lands but still gives me 5 shot groups that are .5".
 
#354
Re: Loads For .308 Winchester

LRB '14
22" Rock Creek

New Win brass - pockets / FH / ran mouths through the expander ball
175 SMK
Win LP
RE15

Temp 98 degrees / RH 21.8% / HG 29.7 / DA 4571

Accuracy load 43.8 grns - 2,635 fps

5 rounds = 0.96 MOA
4 of the 5 = 0.12 MOA
 
#355
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A new load I work up and been shooting in matches. Great numbers and groups. This load is very accurate out to 1000 yds and farther.

155 laupas (moly)
Laupa brass
2.850 COAL
GM 210
45.5 grs 8208 IMR

3040 fps
SDs 6

Lawton action ,30" krieger barrel 1/13 twist.

(This is a moly load work up to safe levels)

Shot in 100 degs. work great. No signs of pressure. At 1000 yds my son was shooting and I was pulling targets. They were still humming.
 
#356
Re: Loads For .308 Winchester

Lawton action w/ 22" bartlein 11.25 twist:

155 Amax, PPU brass, BR2 primer, 46gr Varget

COAL 2.806

Load averages 2905 fps

1/2 MOA groups @ 1200 elevation 107 degrees.

No signs of pressure even using the cheap brass so far...
 
#357
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i probably already posted in here, but here's mine:

cases trimmed to 2.005, savage, 22" pencil barrel

110 vmax moly
2.710 oal
44 gr imr 4064
2640 fps

165 gr sst moly
2.760 oal
43 gr imr 4064
2614 fps

both stay sub moa to 550y and at 100 yards, well... 5 rounds -.75" outside spread

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#358
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Ive been playing with IMR 8208 and found a couple good loads for my Remington Tactical

168 A-max
43 grains 8208
Win brass and primer
OAL 2.825 (mag friendly)
around 2580fps

155 A-max
44.9 grains 8208
Win brass and primer
OAL 2.825
adv for 6, 2724fps

168 nosler CC
42.8 grains 8208
Win brass and primer
OAL 2.825
adv for 5, 2543fps

Good precision with all of the above and easy hits out to 700.
 
#359
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ejd049</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Remy 700 SPS Tac 308 20inch BBL 1 in 12 twist

168gr Amax
43.0gr Varget
Remington Brass trimmed 2.08
CCI200
Coal 2.800
3 shoot group at 100yd- .532

</div></div>

Same gun, same brass, trim, OAL & primer, with differences below:

168gr. Nosler CC
45.0 IMR4895
medium Lee Factory Crimp

Supersonic past 1000 & sub .5 MOA results standard at shorter ranges. Better if I shoot better. Glad to dispense with running ladder tests and get back to doping wind, etc.
 
#360
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Modified the original load.... (10/16/10). Chrono'd 2/2/11

168 SMK
Varget
43.5 grains
2.304 COAL measured from the Ogive. (will not fi mag)
WLR primer
Once fired Federal case (trimmed to 2.10, flash hole deburred, no crimp)
Rem 700 SPS tactical - stock.
.258 MOA 5 round group @ 100 yds

I used 42-45 grains in .5 grain increments for the work up. I found the higher grain loads for Varget really opened up the groups. @ 44.5 it was 1.80" for 5 rounds.....

Update: Chrono'd on 2/2/11 through a Shooting Chrony Beta Master 10 ft from barrel. AVG Speed = 2482 FPS

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#361
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CSAR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">168 SMK
Varget
43 grains
2.795-2.800 COAL (avg'd. I don't have a bullet comparator)
WLR primer
Once fired Federal case (trimmed to 2.10, flash hole deburred, no crimp)
Rem 700 SPS tactical - stock.
.222 MOA for 4 rds in 1 vertical oval hole. 1 called low flier opened 5 rd group to 1 moa (but I'm ignoring the flier :)

I used 42-45 grains in .5 grain increments for the work up. I found the higher grain loads for Varget really opened up the groups. @ 44.5 it was 1.80" for 5 rounds..... </div></div>
I just prepped a bunch of twice fired FGMM brass and started sizing them. Using Imperial lube and an RL550 i found the force required to get the ram up into the standard Redding 308 die way more than any other brass and I was afraid of getting a stuck case. So I backed out. I had seen posts recommending ditching the Federal brass, but I see lots of posts here that say Federal is a standard brass choice. Any ideas why the press would give me so much more resistance on the Federal brass? Using the same set up, once fired Hornady and PPU brass sized like a dream. Am I paranoid? I have already stuck one case since I started handloading 308, so I'm snakebit.
 
#362
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so i finally got around to tweaking my load for my .308

155 amax
44.6gr varget
LC brass
winchester large rifle primers
seated to lands (2.847" COAL in my rifle)
 
#363
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Rem. LTR 20" barrel

175 SMK
Fed brass
collet neck sized only
44.5 varget 2580fps
average group size is around .5 inch

Should be supersonic out to 1000 but probably will never find out.
 
#364
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: targaflorio</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I just prepped a bunch of twice fired FGMM brass and started sizing them. Using Imperial lube and an RL550 i found the force required to get the ram up into the standard Redding 308 die way more than any other brass and I was afraid of getting a stuck case. So I backed out. I had seen posts recommending ditching the Federal brass, but I see lots of posts here that say Federal is a standard brass choice. Any ideas why the press would give me so much more resistance on the Federal brass? Using the same set up, once fired Hornady and PPU brass sized like a dream. Am I paranoid? I have already stuck one case since I started handloading 308, so I'm snakebit. </div></div>

I'm using the once fired Federal brass due to the amount of the factory Gold Metal Match ammo I had purchased in the past. I'm also using the 550 press but with the basic Dillon dies. I have no issues with tight brass when resizing. All I'm using is the Dillon spray case lube. Something's got to be goofy with your dies or brass??
 
#366
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As a precaution pull your dies, use a spray can type brake cleaner and clean the dies. Use a lube pad to lightly lube an get uniformity. You might, MIGHT have build up in your die. Try that an good luck with it.
 
#368
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My "do all" pet load,

168 Amax over 44.0gr Varget, kicked in the end with a Federal 210.

Out of my Lawton 7000 (18" Lawton barrel 1-11 twist MTU), comes out at an average M/V of 2571, ES of 21, SD of 7.

Running this load thru federal, pmc and winchester brass with no discernable difference noted in accuracy.

Will consistently shoot low .2-.3's if I do my part. Same load in my partners Tikka is running low .3's out of a bone stock rifle.
 
#370
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My hunting load:

Lapua brass(or Sako brass for my other rifle so i dont get my ammo mixed)
Federal match primer
43.5grains of VV N540
Coal 73mm

Very nice load. No need to re-zero my rifle while using my Lapua load. Hits the same spot at 100m. This is a hot load as well!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KingKong</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rifle: Remignton sps-v factory barrel chopped to 24"+br supressor.


Scenar 155gr.
Lapua brass.
Vihtavuori N-150 46gr.
CCI large rifle primer.
OAL 73mm or 2.874"
846m/s or 2777Fps

Warning:this is pretty hot load. 47 is pretty much a max.
</div></div>
 
#373
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chaos01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Any problems depriming the LC brass? </div></div>

Not if you have the proper tool. You will break the standard deprimer pin on an RCBS die, if you try to use it. I have used a Lee depriming tool, for years without issue.

Good luck

Jerry
 
#374
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10-4 & Thanks, its been over 20 years since I reloaded any LC and I thought I recalled needing a special depriming tool due to the crimp the military puts on their primers.
 
#375
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Anyone have a .308 load that matches the Black Hills 175 Match BTHP ammo...

Using RL-15 ?

Thanks ALL information would be great...

These are shot out of factory Remington 700's...

Thanks
Matt (LEO SOUTH GA.)
 
#376
Re: Loads For .308 Winchester

.308Win 19" Kreiger 1:10
Lapua Brass using a Redding FL Die with .335 bushing.
CCI BR2
175 SMK
43.7 IMR4895
2.091" base to ogive (just kissing the lands).
2640 fps. put 4 rounds at 300 yards 0.85" center to center with an ES of 4.
 
#377
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Remington 700 5R Milspec .308
Stock 11.25 twist 24" bbl
Sierra Matchking 168 grain
Varget 44.7 grains
Remington fireformed brass, neck sized only
Light crimp, Lee Die
CCI large rifle primer
Seated to 2.820 COAL

45 degrees F
Av. 2665
ES. 62.63
SD. 23.74

Same Ammo as above with my second 5R rifle as well as warmer day.
71 degrees F
AV. 2695
ES. 40.8
SD. 20.3
This is my go to ammo for accuracy testing. This has out shot Black hills Red box ammo. TIFWIW.
Sunnyside Scott
 
#379
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DPMS LR308, 18" bull 1-10twist, RRA trigger, PRS, Bushnell 3x9-40 trophy MD, Harris bipod. Today- 70F, 49RH, 29.89bar,239asl, wind 3oclock @4mph.
Winchester "few" times fired brass. Other info on targets. Paper target is 100yrds-steel target is 12" plate at 400yrds. I'm hoping for a recipe with Varget, since that's what I'm running in my bolt gun load and .223 load. I'm holding 2.2mils for the 400yrd target.

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#380
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@ pickpick

I have almost the same rifle as you do and my best loads for it with varget have been 42.5 and 44 in LC brass w/cci LR and 178 amax. 44 varget, LC brass and 175 SMK shot well too. I'm currently trying to find a load for 175 smk on the lower end, 42.5 was okay but not great.

I did not have good luck with any lighter bullets.
 
#382
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Your previously posted target has a 43varget + 168 HPBT load. Try 43.5, 44, 44.5, 45, and 45.5 w/CCI LR primer. Make 3 of each. Take your time with them and watch for pressure signs when you get to 45.

I've tried lots and lots of loads and tbh the best have all been 175+ weight bullets with 42-44 grains of varget and CCI LR primers.
 
#383
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I started out trying to run my bolt gun load through it. 45.7vrgt and 168smk. Way too hot, real bad ejector marks and wouldn't group for nothing. I dropped back to the 43grain loads and was satisfied with the IMR4064 load with 91/2 rem primers. But, used my last rem primers and I'm trying to get the varget to be the powder. I'll trying bumping up the powder and see how it goes. Thanks.
 
#384
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I have always been a varget fan, but here is my new favorite load.
Note***This load is worked up for my rifle. Please start low and work your way up..
.308/25" Tube
IMR 8208:46.3grns.
Sierra 155smk (2156)@2.865oal
CCI LRP
BH Brass
I am getting 3100fps, ES less than 20fps. Shoots like a laser for a .308
Worked loads up too 3200fps but started to see pressure signs on primer and sticky bolt lift.

Enjoy.
 
#385
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stiller tac30
rock creek m40 26inches
1-11:27 twist
manners T1
timney trigger tuned to 2 lbs
falcon 4-14 ffp mil scope

44 grains varget
175 smk
2.805 oal
rem brass trimmed to 2.005
cci br-2 primer

2750 fps

i get .40 groups with this load
 
#386
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: scottishtornado</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone have a load for 190smk? </div></div>

i worked up to
44 grains of varget
cci br-2 primer
rem brass trimmed to 2.005
2.860 oal

i had no pressure signs or sticky bolt lift.

roughly a 3 inch group at 550 yards in my rifle. this was almost a compressed load had a little room were i could hear the powder rattle around in the case. never tried it at 100 yards. please work up
 
#387
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BCP</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I've tried lots and lots of loads and tbh the best have all been 175+ weight bullets with 42-44 grains of varget and CCI LR primers.
</div></div>


I've also had similar luck with my Armalite AR10T.

Rifle specs: ARMALITE AR10T LW barrel CUT TO 18"
7.62 NATO chamber

Winchester case
FED 210M primer
RELOADER 15 44gr
175 SMK
Mag length

Crono average 2400 (*correction* this chrono data was with a 43gr charge, will chrono the 44.0 gr load as above and post back) fps just about at sea level, which I am satisfied with. Load is good for at least MOA consistently with me on the trigger.

*44.0gr load did 2490 fps 5 shot avg. Sea level, about 85* temp.
 
#389
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ok, with my latest lot of varget, its really slow (like 50-100fps) im thinking about switching to something different, possibly imr8208. is it temperature sensitive or is it fairly stable like varget is? and how will it load compared to varget?
 
#392
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mm128</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Seaaggie,

You might want to try RELOADER 15 for the .308 loads... its not temperature sensitive and has show GREAT results in all of my rifles.

Matt. (LEO SOUTH GA.) </div></div>

Yes +1 for the RELOADER 15.

Check out the data above.
 
#393
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If your using a factory tube... PSS... Tactical...Varmint...

Anything remeington had or is using in a 1-10 and 1-12 twist...

Try this:

RE-15 @ 43grns.
175 Sierra BTHP Match Kings
WLR or CCI primers
OAL 2.8

It was UNDER or AT 1/2 MOA in my guns when i did my part...

I used this load for 1K matches at Ft. Benning and its ON at 1K with 36 MOA.

Matt. (LEO SOUTH GA.)
 
#394
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for shorter ranges i like:

168 smks
44.4 grains of RE-15
CCI BR-2's
win brass
2.800 coal

for longer ranges, i use a pretty standard load

175 smks
45.0 Varget
CCI BR-2's
win brass
2.800 coal

this is out of a 22" rock 5r, 1/11.25 twist
 
#395
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pickpick</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here is what I get with 42.0 and 42.5 of varget and 168smk.
testtarget.jpg

I'm going to try some at 42.8 to 43.2 and see if it gets any better. </div></div>

I used the same load of 42 this weekend , but was .010 of the lands and put 5 rds at 100 the size of a dime .

In other words , try playing with your seating depth .
 
#396
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rijndael</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jedi</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Holy crap that smokin from a 20"????</div></div>

No doubt. This barrel and chamber have always been VERY fast. I've tried 3 different lots of 4895 now ... same results.

FGMM 168 is running 2705. </div></div>


Have you tried a different chronograph? That seems impossible.
 
#397
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KIDGLOCK</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pickpick</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here is what I get with 42.0 and 42.5 of varget and 168smk.
testtarget.jpg

I'm going to try some at 42.8 to 43.2 and see if it gets any better. </div></div>

I used the same load of 42 this weekend , but was .010 of the lands and put 5 rds at 100 the size of a dime .

In other words , try playing with your seating depth . </div></div>

I can't cheat c.o.a.l much. I'm running this load in my LR308. Mag length has me pinned down.
 
#398
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ok, so weird thing happened, i went ahead and ran a work up as far as 46.5gr of varget, and both lots started to even out at around 46.1-46.3gr loads. so i guess its out to the range to load up some more and give it a go round.
 
#400
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Rifle: 20" Rem 700P (1 in 12" twist)
Bullet: Sierra 175 gr HPBT-M
Case: Fed (2nd loading) standard case prep
Primer: Fed 210M
Powder: 46.0 grains of Varget
COL: 2.810"
Av Vel - 2665 fps

Great accuracy load for me.
 
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