6.5 Creedmoor

[lte82]

My go to loads for a 28" Bartlein 7.5 twist with hornady brass and cci br2

123 scenar @ .030 jump: 39.5 varget / 2970 fps and 42.5 h4350 / 3010 fps (.268 trued g7)

147 eld-m @ .045 jump: 38 gr varget / 2705 fps mv (.335 trued g7)

My Krieger 8 twist needs about 1/2 gr less across the board to be in the sweet spot.

 

[DrainTheSwamp]

24 inch Criterion 1-8
Hornady Brass
.289 neck bushing
S&B primer
41.4gr IMR 4451
140 rdf
25 thou off made a one hole group
2636 FPS

 

[tacticalpanda]

Big Horn Tl3
Bartlein medium Palma 26"

Brass: Peterson palma
Primer: federal 205
Bullet: Hornady ELD 140
Powder: Reloder 16
Charge: 40.4 grains

.010 of lands 2.255 to ogive

Weather. 49F, 71% humidity, baro 28.12. Alt 592

Averages over 10 shots
Velocity: 2749
ES: 5
SD: 2.5

 

[Niles Coyote]

It's still undergoing testing, we are at its 11th year so it's a little early yet...

 

[dannySH]

It's still undergoing testing, we are at its 11th year so it's a little early yet...

 

[Jefe's Dope]

140 ELD-M
42.5gr H4350
1x Hornady Brass
CCI BR-2
Loaded 0.020" off the lands
24" Krieger, suppressed

Avg speed of 2831
SD 4.3
ES 11
Shot 0.23 MOA @ 100 yards out of my LRI.

Quoted for future reference. Thanks.

 

[Bacarrat]

AI AW - people still shoot these rifles?
43.7gr H4350
140gr ELD-M
Prime Brass
210M Primer
20" Bartlien chambered by GAP
2.900" OAL with a .010 jump. Would like it longer to get more speed.
2799 FPS with a 3.7 SD

I just don't see the need for a longer barrel when it can shoot faster then most with a 24-26" barrel.

 

[mustang-cars]

AI AW - people still shoot these rifles?
43.7gr H4350
140gr ELD-M
Prime Brass
210M Primer
20" Bartlien chambered by GAP
2.900" OAL with a .010 jump. Would like it longer to get more speed.
2799 FPS with a 3.7 SD

I just don't see the need for a longer barrel when it can shoot faster then most with a 24-26" barrel.

I believe your mileage is unusual. That is phenomenal velocity from a 20" barrel so congrats on that! I have a 26" Bartlein. I use the exact components you use except I'm using CCI BR's. I'm getting 2850 out of 42.3gr's of 4350. Shows just slight cratering on some primers at 65 degrees. I'm also getting an SD of 3.7

 

[Bacarrat]

I believe your mileage is unusual. That is phenomenal velocity from a 20" barrel so congrats on that! I have a 26" Bartlein. I use the exact components you use except I'm using CCI BR's. I'm getting 2850 out of 42.3gr's of 4350. Shows just slight cratering on some primers at 65 degrees. I'm also getting an SD of 3.7

The AW will crater on just about any load since the firing pin hole is so large and firing pin spring is so strong. I just go with signs of ejector swipes or flatten primers. I really don't think it's unusual that it's going that fast since I am loading out way longer then most and I can fill the case more then normal.

 

[kabarNC]

I use 4831SC in my creed. Got 2790 with a 143 ELD in a 26" barrel, not compressed. I was thinking about trying something slower.

Just rebarreled to a 22" suppressed 6.5 Creedmoor and also own a .284Win, so I have alot of H4831SC sitting around. What are your opinions of this powder for 6.5 Creed by now? I'm wanting to shoot bullets on the heavier side, say 140gr and up for PRS. Do you use magnum primers? And what's a good starting charge weight for an OCW? Im also not that concerned about scorching velocities.

 

[bogey]

Finishing up load work on my rem 700
25" Broughton wrapped by Frozen fiber
lapua brass
cci 450
135 Berger classic hunters
42 r 16 2880

On seat test Thursday at 500 5 different depths of 5 shots averaged 2.43" with 2 wide shots
Best depth I shot better then I can and got 5 in a nice little .96"

 

[aaronk]

Hope okay to ask here, I dont reload so need to ask, has anyone come up with a load that works well beyond 1200-1500 years for a Factory Tikka Tac A1. As of now Im shooting Prime and Hornaday at 500ish yards. Will factory ammo get me to 1200ish? havent tried yet as waiting for my buddies farm to dry out. Thanks in advance

I've pushed factory Hornady 140g ELD Match to 1,550 yards, SD and ES are really going to kill you at those distances with factory ammo though.

 

[ACK]

26 inch AI AT 1-8
Hornady Brass

WIN primer
42 IMR 4350
140 BARNES MATCH BURNER
2.84 OAL
2811 FPS
SD 5

Sub MOA,
Did well at 1000 yards

Tried it on a whim at 1600 yards 12x 20 target, 1 hit out of 15

Primers look fine. Have an old AE MK1 also in 6.5CR. No issues with primers.

 

[lancetkenyon]

I'm also considering Superformance, but have heard that it doesn't group well. What about a single cold bore shot? Is it consistent? I can get it pretty cheap is why...

I had really good results from a 20" 1:8" Bartlein pushing 143 ELD-X using Superformance. 2750fps into the high .2s. That guy just had his kid kill a big javelina @ 270+ today.

Getting ready to start a second load development with the 143 ELD-X using Superformance in a 24" 1:8" Proof barrel tomorrow. I will let you know how it goes.

 

[Precision Underground]

I’ve been consistently nailing silhouettes at 1200 with
23” criterion
Savage 10 action
Aics
42g H4350 140eld @2750.
Wanting to stretch to a mile so I tried the Warners. Couldn’t make them shoot worth a damn.
Went with
43g RL17 140eld @2920fps. 13/6 ES/SD. She’s hot but with a 40 MOA base I have just enough dope to get there lol. We’ll see how it does in about a week.

 

[Elnicko]

Does anyone have any data using RL26 with 130 VLDs? Was looking for a place to start. Also, what primers would be best? Using Hornady brass, 20” bbl, 8 twist. Thanks!

 

[FOHA1]

24" Krieger barrel
Badger 2008 Action
KRG WT3 chassis
1x Hornady brass
CCI Primer
44.5g H4831sc (top right 7 shot group @ 100yds).
147g ELD-m

2722fps/9SD

 

[RowdyAF]

So are RL 16/17 and IMR 4451 still the favorite H4350 alternatives?

 

[Niles Coyote]

Reloder 16 is for sure.

 

[Stpilot12]

Reloder 16 is for sure.

+1 and a touch more speed...

 

[Lonestar1027]

I'm selling my H4350 to get more RL16. Great results so far

 

[Bacarrat]

Been working on a load workup with RL16. I am thinking this powder is a better suited for the heavier bullets? So far with the 130gr TMKs, I can literally fill the whole case and neck up with powder and not get any kind of pressures. Loaded up 5 single rounds from 43.9 to 45.2 without a single pressure issue. The speed did plateau at around 2880 FPS out of a 20" barrel. My last group of 5 of 43.6 did shoot at 2865fps with a 11SD. I think I am going to try the 140gr class bullets next. So far in the 130gr bullets, Power Pro 2000MR is still the king.

 

[Stpilot12]

Im running a 30" barrel out of a DTA and I found a node at 42.5 RL16 thats giving me 2959 with a 140ELD/Prime brass/BR2. I think I went up to 42.8, no pressure but I found a sweet spot at 42.5. Shoots sub 1/2" with SD's of 3-4. Good powder. Just need to ty it at different temps and see how it changes

 

[Terry H]

For those of you that have shot both SRP and LRP brass, are you seeing the SRP last longer? Lower SD/ES? I'm prepping to load for my RPR with 26" PVA barrel. Berger 130 hybrids, H4350. Just can't make up my mind if I want to go to Lapua or to Alpha, Norma or some other LRP brass.

 

[mustang-cars]

For those of you that have shot both SRP and LRP brass, are you seeing the SRP last longer? Lower SD/ES? I'm prepping to load for my RPR with 26" PVA barrel. Berger 130 hybrids, H4350. Just can't make up my mind if I want to go to Lapua or to Alpha, Norma or some other LRP brass.

The general consensus is that the SRP brass will last quite a bit longer and some have shown the SD/ES to be smaller but I don't believe that's the case for everyone. I think its just individuals reloading process and other variables. the primer pockets are always the first to go on the 6.5CM. The SRP leaves more meat in the case head for longer primer pocket life. Alpha makes SRP and LRP 6.5CM brass now. They're SRP brass has the large flash hole so there's no need for a smaller decapping pin like you have to use for the Lapua. I stayed with the LRP brass and am currently using Prime brass. I have 400 pieces of the LRP Alpha brass on the shelf and I'll use that when the Prime craps the bed. Only reason I stayed with the LRP stuff is because I have over 10,000 LRP on hand.

 

[Darkphage]

Evening gentlemen,

I have made some observations about the new Lapua 6.5 CM brass with The small primer pockets, so I thought I might share my data for the benefit of the hide.

I am shooting a Howa HCR Chassis in 6.5CM, and loving this rifle!!

I am an avid raving fan of Lapua brass,so naturally I wanted to switch to it as soon as it became available in 6.5 CM.

One thing I immediately noticed was that my load was causing some cratering of my primers in the small primer pockets.

So today I ran a primer test of sorts. I loaded my preferred 6.5 CM load into 40 once shot Lapua brass, all with the same specs, changing only the selected primer.

My load: Lapua Brass, 42.5 grains H4350, Berger 140 grn Elite Hunters, COAL 2.865” (Max length for a P-mag).

Best Primers? TBD Today

I tested 4 different primers to see if there was a difference with primer cratering. I figured I might as well make thing as scientific as I could, so I ran everything on my Magneto Speed to gather as much data as I could.

I wanted to test for 5 things at once. #1 MV #2 SD #3 Group size #4 Evidence of Primer cratering #5 Any other signs of over-pressure besides the primer cratering.

Primer test results

Federal GMM Small Rifle primers performs as follows.
MV: 2825
SD : 9.0
Group Size: .6 MOA
Primer Crater: Minor cratering I could barely feel a ridge with my fingers on 4 of 10 brass.
Other signs of overpressure: Barely noticeable case head shine on some cases.

Small but noticeable craters on the F GMM small rifle primers!!! Enough to worry about? Pretty small, I might experiment more. Should definitely check these with my can installed, it could push it too much. This close-up makes them look obvious, but you could actually barely feel it.



CCI #400 Small Rifle primers performs as follows.
MV: 2817
SD: 10.6
Group Size: .33 MOA
Primer Crater: I could feel a pronounced ridge on all 10 primers and it was noticeably larger and more pronounced on all 10 than on the FGMM primers.
Other signs of overpressure: Minor case head shine on most cases.

CONTINUED BELOW

 

[Darkphage]

Primer Test Part 2

LOOK at those craters!!!!!!! I can't recommend running these primers with this hot of a load of H4350, in this rifle.




CCI #41 Small Rifle primers performs as follows.
MV: 2808
SD: 5.3
Group Size: .738 MOA (with one called flier)
Primer Crater: Absolutely None discernible.
Other signs of overpressure: Extremely minor case head shine.

Beautiful, no cratering whatsoever!!! Yes, these babies are gold colored.





CCI #450 Small Rifle primers performs as follows.
MV: 2793
SD: 7.2
Group Size: .33 MOA
Primer Crater: I could feel 6 of 10, all felt larger and more pronounced than the Federal GMM, but not as bad as the CCI 400’s.
Other signs of overpressure: Minor case head shine.

Yowza! Crater city!! Same thing, too hot for me with these primers too!!



Some surprising results, the MV decreased across the 4 groups, with the Federal GMM delivering good primer performance and low cratering.

The SD was good for all 4 groups. Some better than others, each group was only a 10shot group, so more research needs to be done on SD.

Group sizes were all good. Interestingly the 2 best groups were with the CCI 400 and CCI 450's. Too bad they are showing so much cratering. The close up pics really demonstrate how bad the cratering is. Some groups were tighter than others, all were great groups, variance is most likely the shooter.

Primer performance: Federal GMM Small Rifle and CCI 41 performed much better with regards to less cratering than ether CCI 400 pro CCI 450’s. If you are wanting to run Lapua Brass and a slightly hot load, you might want to stick to one of those 2 options, with CCI 41 (unsurprisingly) being the toughest of the bunch.

All 4 batches showed very little evidence of overpressure on the case itself, again unsurprising as many on this forum are running their CM's hotter than I am. Always use caution with working up loads, and keep in mind H4350 table values are 40.0 to 42.0 grains!!!

At the very least, if you're having issues with cratering you might consider one of the better performing primer options.

I hope someone finds this info useful!

Cheers,

Dark

 

[Vartarg]

Tag

 

[padom]

that's not just the primer causing that. I solely run CCI 450 in Lapua SR brass and never seen a crater like that. Same with 205M, no craters. I'm running a Bighorn TL3.

 

[Jefe's Dope]

1st. Thanks for the data.

*using CCI-450 primers, H4350, Once fired Lapua brass, Hornady 140 ELD-M.

2. I'm finding max load on my Tikka Tac A1 24" and I've hit 43.6 grains with the only signs are some case head shine. Confirmed by my armorer.

3. I'm seeing average speeds of 2800+ beginning with 43.2 grains with a high average of 2821 w/ 43.5 grains. SDs ranging from 2.0 (43.5) to 5.7(43.2) and ES max of 14.

Similar FPS to yours should mean similar pressures.

 

[Darkphage]

that's not just the primer causing that. I solely run CCI 450 in Lapua SR brass and never seen a crater like that. Same with 205M, no craters. I'm running a Bighorn TL3.

All identical loads, shot from the same rifle under the same conditions with the same brass and powder from their respective same lots. Different primer cup wall thickness is all i can come up with. Why else would some crater and some look great? Also, the results were very obvious, the 400's and 450's were markedly much worse than the FGGM's and the 41's were perfect.

I'm not suggesting that the CCI 400's or 450's are BAD, what I am saying is that SP issues on 6.5 CM are a known problem. It likely has something to do with the firing pin/ hole tolerances of the rifle. My buddy (who is an extremely accomplished reloader and PRS shooter) pierced primers on his Bergara H-14 IMR TWICE with powder charges of H4350 that were actually WELL UNDER max load specs. Bergara fixed it, but after the second time basically said, don't shoot reloads in our rifles, so he sold the rifle. What else do you consider that might be causing it?

Thanks,

Dark

 

[padom]

you hit the nail on the head Not primer issues, firing pin/firing pin hole issues.

 

[Darkphage]

I think it is a primer issue as well as a firing pin issue. Just wanting to make people aware.

Dark

 

[kujuak]

Primer Test Part 2
View attachment 6888582
LOOK at those craters!!!!!!! I can't recommend running these primers with this hot of a load of H4350, in this rifle.




CCI #41 Small Rifle primers performs as follows.
MV: 2808
SD: 5.3
Group Size: .738 MOA (with one called flier)
Primer Crater: Absolutely None discernible.
Other signs of overpressure: Extremely minor case head shine.
View attachment 6888583
View attachment 6888584
View attachment 6888585
View attachment 6888586
Beautiful, no cratering whatsoever!!! Yes, these babies are gold colored.





CCI #450 Small Rifle primers performs as follows.
MV: 2793
SD: 7.2
Group Size: .33 MOA
Primer Crater: I could feel 6 of 10, all felt larger and more pronounced than the Federal GMM, but not as bad as the CCI 400’s.
Other signs of overpressure: Minor case head shine.
View attachment 6888588
View attachment 6888587
View attachment 6888590
View attachment 6888589
Yowza! Crater city!! Same thing, too hot for me with these primers too!!



Some surprising results, the MV decreased across the 4 groups, with the Federal GMM delivering good primer performance and low cratering.

The SD was good for all 4 groups. Some better than others, each group was only a 10shot group, so more research needs to be done on SD.

Group sizes were all good. Interestingly the 2 best groups were with the CCI 400 and CCI 450's. Too bad they are showing so much cratering. The close up pics really demonstrate how bad the cratering is. Some groups were tighter than others, all were great groups, variance is most likely the shooter.

Primer performance: Federal GMM Small Rifle and CCI 41 performed much better with regards to less cratering than ether CCI 400 pro CCI 450’s. If you are wanting to run Lapua Brass and a slightly hot load, you might want to stick to one of those 2 options, with CCI 41 (unsurprisingly) being the toughest of the bunch.

All 4 batches showed very little evidence of overpressure on the case itself, again unsurprising as many on this forum are running their CM's hotter than I am. Always use caution with working up loads, and keep in mind H4350 table values are 40.0 to 42.0 grains!!!

At the very least, if you're having issues with cratering you might consider one of the better performing primer options.

I hope someone finds this info useful!

Cheers,

Dark

I've been pondering this all day. Just looked up some data.It would appear CCI 450 and CCI 41 are the same in dimes

 

[kujuak]

I've read this primer test a few times and it gets more confusing every time. I looked up cup thickness details and got even more confused, as at least on the charts i read cup thickness does not correspond with some observations in test . Cup "hardness" was also mentioned re the military type primers CCI M41??? And now I've come across new (to me) "New Federal Gold Metal Match Primers for ARs"..... so as the kids say WTF, could somebody please 'plain this to me? Thanks!
(I'm thinking of buying some Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor brass for small small firing pin AI/AT, so this subject is very relevant to me . )

 

[cropdude]

great thread

 

[Darkphage]

Read here

http://www.accurateshooter.com/technical-articles/primers-and-pressure-analysis/

I think the main takeaway is simply, try what primer you prefer in your 6.5 CM, small primer brass. If you're having trouble with the primers try the CCI 41's or the FGGM small rifle primers

Dark

 

[kujuak]

Read here

http://www.accurateshooter.com/technical-articles/primers-and-pressure-analysis/

I think the main takeaway is simply, try what primer you prefer in your 6.5 CM, small primer brass. If you're having trouble with the primers try the CCI 41's or the FGGM small rifle primers

Dark

I read that article and he talks about primer "hardness". He never states , that I could see, how you find out how primers rank with respect to hardness???

 

[emann1022]

I've read this primer test a few times and it gets more confusing every time. I looked up cup thickness details and got even more confused, as at least on the charts i read cup thickness does not correspond with some observations in test . Cup "hardness" was also mentioned re the military type primers CCI M41??? And now I've come across new (to me) "New Federal Gold Metal Match Primers for ARs"..... so as the kids say WTF, could somebody please 'plain this to me? Thanks!
(I'm thinking of buying some Lapua 6.5 Creedmoor brass for small small firing pin AI/AT, so this subject is very relevant to me . )

I run lapua brass in my AIAT 6.5C and have been running 450 primers. I haven't had any pierced primers or cratering yet. I've done load development with H4350 and RL16. I had a sticky bolt loft around 43.8 of 4350 and the primer looked a little flat but not cratered. I also have the large firing pin and it's not bushed if that helps.

 

[DMONEY]

I'm curious about temperature sensitivity. I have seen my avg shift 20 fps over a 7 degree temp change. Is anyone seeing a similar shift?

dont know if you seen this '/ hope it helps ,,, temp sensitivity test

HS-6 1.21fps per *
H110/W296 1.24 fps per *
Imr4227 1.17fps per *
Lil' Gun 1.31 fps per *
RL10x .71 fps per*
Benchmark .44 fps per *
Imr3031 .73 fps per *
Imr8208xbr .59 fps per *
H4895 .23 fps per *
Alliant Varmint pro .89 fps per *
Alliant AR comp .77 fps per *
Varget .19 fps per *
W748 1.32 fps per *
Imr4064 .53 fps per *
Ramshot Tac .91 fps per *
Imr4895 .87 fps per *
AA4064 1.11 fps per *
AA2520 .98 fps per *
RL15 1.52 fps per * from 50* and up
PP2000MR .99 fps per *
Imr4320 1.32 fps per *
Ramshot Biggame .98 fps per *
H380 1.44 fps per *
VV N150 1.08 fps per *
H414/W760 1.42 fps per *
Imr4350 .64 fps per *
AA4350 .47 fps per *
H4350 .29 fps per *
RL17 1.42 fps per *
Hybrid 100v .78 fps per *
RL19 1.61 fps per *
VV N160 1.24 fps per *
Imr4831 1.19 fps per *
Ramshot Hunter .86 fps per *
H4831 .36 fps per *
RL22 1.71 fps per *
Imr7828 1.36 fps per *
Magpro 1.01 fps per *
H1000 .21 fps per *
RL25 1.59 fps per *
Ramshot Magnum .87 fps per *
Retumbo .49 fps per *
RL33, still trying to get my data for this one.
US869 1.68 fps per *
H50bmg 1.64 fps per *

 

[MountainHunter]

dont know if you seen this '/ hope it helps ,,, temp sensitivity test

HS-6 1.21fps per *
H110/W296 1.24 fps per *
Imr4227 1.17fps per *
Lil' Gun 1.31 fps per *
RL10x .71 fps per*
Benchmark .44 fps per *
Imr3031 .73 fps per *
Imr8208xbr .59 fps per *
H4895 .23 fps per *
Alliant Varmint pro .89 fps per *
Alliant AR comp .77 fps per *
Varget .19 fps per *
W748 1.32 fps per *
Imr4064 .53 fps per *
Ramshot Tac .91 fps per *
Imr4895 .87 fps per *
AA4064 1.11 fps per *
AA2520 .98 fps per *
RL15 1.52 fps per * from 50* and up
PP2000MR .99 fps per *
Imr4320 1.32 fps per *
Ramshot Biggame .98 fps per *
H380 1.44 fps per *
VV N150 1.08 fps per *
H414/W760 1.42 fps per *
Imr4350 .64 fps per *
AA4350 .47 fps per *
H4350 .29 fps per *
RL17 1.42 fps per *
Hybrid 100v .78 fps per *
RL19 1.61 fps per *
VV N160 1.24 fps per *
Imr4831 1.19 fps per *
Ramshot Hunter .86 fps per *
H4831 .36 fps per *
RL22 1.71 fps per *
Imr7828 1.36 fps per *
Magpro 1.01 fps per *
H1000 .21 fps per *
RL25 1.59 fps per *
Ramshot Magnum .87 fps per *
Retumbo .49 fps per *
RL33, still trying to get my data for this one.
US869 1.68 fps per *
H50bmg 1.64 fps per *

This is awesome data, what’s the source on this?

 

[DMONEY]

This is awesome data, what’s the source on this?

https://ballisticxlr.com/

it used to be like snipers hide ,,, now its a pay per view ,,, subscription only ... i have seen the data on

http://www.65creedmoor.com/?topic=2208.msg29499#msg29499

20 degree temp change won't move impact a mil at 1000. Look at the temps below for changes per degree. The most is 1.71 per degree. Using that and 20 degrees it comes out to about 34 degree change. Running my data on JBM, which I know is good, my load at 2895fps with the 140 AMAX is 7.9 mils at 50 degrees at 1000 yards. When I go up to 100 degrees it changes it to 7.6 mils. I have shot the H4350 loads from the teens to over 100 degrees with minimal chrono'd data shift. Might be a tenth or two at 1000. That is from the ammo being in those conditions. Granted that is with H4350 and not the new powders being used but even if they were more there still wouldn't be a full mil shift.

HS-6 1.21fps per *
H110/W296 1.24 fps per *
Imr4227 1.17fps per *
Lil' Gun 1.31 fps per *
RL10x .71 fps per*
Benchmark .44 fps per *
Imr3031 .73 fps per *
Imr8208xbr .59 fps per *
H4895 .23 fps per *
Alliant Varmint pro .89 fps per *
Alliant AR comp .77 fps per *
Varget .19 fps per *
W748 1.32 fps per *
Imr4064 .53 fps per *
Ramshot Tac .91 fps per *
Imr4895 .87 fps per *
AA4064 1.11 fps per *
AA2520 .98 fps per *
RL15 1.52 fps per * from 50* and up
PP2000MR .99 fps per *
Imr4320 1.32 fps per *
Ramshot Biggame .98 fps per *
H380 1.44 fps per *
VV N150 1.08 fps per *
H414/W760 1.42 fps per *
Imr4350 .64 fps per *
AA4350 .47 fps per *
H4350 .29 fps per *
RL17 1.42 fps per *
Hybrid 100v .78 fps per *
RL19 1.61 fps per *
VV N160 1.24 fps per *
Imr4831 1.19 fps per *
Ramshot Hunter .86 fps per *
H4831 .36 fps per *
RL22 1.71 fps per *
Imr7828 1.36 fps per *
Magpro 1.01 fps per *
H1000 .21 fps per *
RL25 1.59 fps per *
Ramshot Magnum .87 fps per *
Retumbo .49 fps per *
RL33, still trying to get my data for this one.
US869 1.68 fps per *
H50bmg 1.64 fps per *

 

[XTREM HTR16]

What is the consensus on Prime brass? How many reloads are you seeing? Have a chance to get some for a good price. Thanks!

 

[Txmxracer]

Is anyone using RL17 and the 123eldm in a gas gun? Curious to see ed if it's worth trying.

 

[ironsight1000yard]

Any data/result for Nosler 140 gr RDF, H4350 on a Ruger Precision Rifle?

How does this projectile perform at distance?

Trying to find a good staring point to work up some loads.

 

[Vmax97]

Unknown. Unlikely to be a canister mixture that is available commercially to us, the unwashed masses.

I can tell you that 44.1 Gr H4350 will push the Norma 130 GT out of Prime brass at 2853 fps at 80 degrees with my RPR. DO NOT start at this level as all rifles/barrels are different. Work up to this if you need that velocity.

RMD

++++
Do you have any pictures of your brass after shooting or can you report on the state of the brass? Did you do any chrono work and do you have data?
I will start a ladder test starting at 43 and work my way up.

 

[rduckwor]

++++
Do you have any pictures of your brass after shooting or can you report on the state of the brass? Did you do any chrono work and do you have data?
I will start a ladder test starting at 43 and work my way up.

Damn! I looked thru the spreadsheet I keep on the Prime brass and Norma Golden Target bullets and could not find the load I quoted above. I don't know where that came from and I apologize for not being able to track the post.

Here is the most complete run I could locate in my data. Hope it helps. I have had no issues with the Prime brass as far as losing primer pockets though I load predominately Hornady brass with the 140 ELD-M bullets. These numbers are from a Magneto Speed V.3 chrono. 24" barrel.

RMD

 

[cattleman99]

Does anyone use Berger 130 Gr VLD Hunting bullets on H4350? I had great luck with that bullet, just can not find them anymore. They shoot sub quarter MOA out of my stock RPR wearing an Athlon Cronus.

Berger 130 VLD Hunting
43.2 GR H4350
COAL 2.824"
Average 2,813 FPS

 

[ZR2Chevy22]

Any load recommendations using IMR 4451 Endurion and 140gr Hornady ELD-Match and 140gr Hornady BTHP's

 

[Lunchbox27]

Any load recommendations using IMR 4451 Endurion and 140gr Hornady ELD-Match and 140gr Hornady BTHP's

42.0-42.4 is where i found mine with the 140bthp’s