I'm having the same problem with it.Anyone have any idea what happened to the 6.5 Grendel forum? Last week or so it has changed drastically for me. Nothing like it used to be, can't read or post. Is it my computer or something else?
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I'm having the same problem with it.Anyone have any idea what happened to the 6.5 Grendel forum? Last week or so it has changed drastically for me. Nothing like it used to be, can't read or post. Is it my computer or something else?
@LRRPF52 - know anything?Anyone have any idea what happened to the 6.5 Grendel forum? Last week or so it has changed drastically for me. Nothing like it used to be, can't read or post. Is it my computer or something else?
Thanks for reply, good to know it's not just me. Thought my puter was acting up.I'm having the same problem with it.
Not a clue either. LRRPF may have some info to share. Would hope a site update or hopefully not hackers. Agree, however, it’s a mess as is.Anyone have any idea what happened to the 6.5 Grendel forum?
Anyone have any idea what happened to the 6.5 Grendel forum? Last week or so it has changed drastically for me. Nothing like it used to be, can't read or post. Is it my computer or something else?
Hackers. Site Admin is working on it.Not a clue either. LRRPF may have some info to share. Would hope a site update or hopefully not hackers. Agree, however, it’s a mess as is.
28.4gr start load | 2,352fps | 36,800 PSI |
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In case anyone didn’t see it yet, Hodgdon’s published 170 loads for 6.5 Grendel recently. They had 40 published loads prior to the update, and the update includes CFE223, LeveRevolution, and StaBALL Match.
In our own testing with calibrated test breech and RSI with better gauges, we saw that my CFE223 loads under a 123gr A-MAX were well below 50,000psi. Hodgdon’s shows some interesting data for CFE223 under the 123gr SMK loaded to 2.250” COL. 24” barrel
28.4gr start load 2,352fps 36,800 PSI
31.2gr max 2,602fps 48,700 PSI
Loaded to 2.275” COL with 123gr A-MAX, 16” AA barrel
31.1gr 2489fps 45,711psi
31.4gr 2520fps 47,302psi
31.7gr 2532fps 48,893psi
123gr A-MAX, ELD-M, SST, and American Gunner BTHP are shorter than the 123gr SMK, with less case intrusion.
I was wondering the same thing. I thought it was just my I Pad messing up. Tried to go in one day and I couldn't figure out how to navigate. Nothing would come up. Hope it is able to be saved. Tons of great stuff there.Anyone have any idea what happened to the 6.5 Grendel forum? Last week or so it has changed drastically for me. Nothing like it used to be, can't read or post. Is it my computer or something else?
I was just their now and it has been updated and working fine now. (6.5 Grendel Forum)I was wondering the same thing. I thought it was just my I Pad messing up. Tried to go in one day and I couldn't figure out how to navigate. Nothing would come up. Hope it is able to be saved. Tons of great stuff there.
If you look at Hodgdon’s data, 31.2gr of CFE223 under a much longer 123gr SMK generated 48,700psi.20" Odin Works Stainless Match 1:8 twist barrel w/Area 419 Hellfire Match Muzzle Brake
CCI #41 primers
Starline Brass
29.3 - 30.2 grains/CFE-223*
123gr Hornady SST
COL-2.250
*In the process of load development!
Last week, I took my son down to the range complex I love so much in Central Utah, and for some reason, I had an old mag full of that 31.2gr CFE223 on 123gr A-MAX hand loads.
Wind was strong and gusting from West to East as usual, about 3/4 value with the flags streaming at about 80% extended. My Kestrel wind meter showed anywhere from 6-14mph.
I loaded up in the 17.6” Lilja Grendel, dialed in my dope for elevation and held 1.5 mils into the wind, and 1st-round connected with a center-punch on an 18” plate at 600yds. Had the conditions been more tame, I would have had no reservations about trying for a 1st-round out farther.
I then took the 12” Grendel and connected 1st-round at 600yds and 700yds on larger gongs, using the 1-6x24 GRSC reticle holds. That was with 123gr ELD-M factory ammo.
We started out shooting at the Buffalo Canyon range behind the Cowboy Town, the did some pistol work inside the bays, then drove up to the 1000yd range to shoot some more LR. We took a total of 3 of my Grendels for that trip. 12”, 17.6” Lilja, and 18” LaRue Stealth.
I’ll do a 7yr review on the LaRue soon. I forgot how fun it is to shoot that rifle. So slick and doesn’t move when you break the shot.
I ran that same combination except different brand of barrel.20" Odin Works Stainless Match 1:8 twist barrel w/Area 419 Hellfire Match Muzzle Brake
CCI #41 primers
Starline Brass
29.3 - 30.2 grains/CFE-223*
123gr Hornady SST
COL-2.250
*In the process of load development!
Good insight there.I ran that same combination except different brand of barrel.
The cfe223 ran around one moa best I could do. I think it likes medium to light projectiles in any load it's used.
Same when I used it for 308, 223 69g, all would run at or very slightly below moa at best.
Tac and 123's is my next project for the 6.5g
They still have their older data and the newly-published data, with quite the variation between identical loads.Thanks for posting that about hodgdon. That said, WTF hodgdon? Accidentally entered 335 twice when I was making a chart to print and saw this…
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Which is it!!! Am I missing something?
Thanks for posting that about hodgdon. That said, WTF hodgdon? Accidentally entered 335 twice when I was making a chart to print and saw this…
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Which is it!!! Am I missing something?
It shows two different primers.I sent them an email as well. We'll see what they say if anything.
No, I'm just trying to plan out a hunting/tactical gun in the AR platform and 6.5 Gren seems to be the best, though 6 ARC or even the new 22 ARC have a lot of potential. Trying to get a good idea of what bullets are out there. Some of the 130gr and heavier bullets may be too long to seat properly. Sorry, your much further along than me. Just relaying what I've found with some arm-chair research.Have you actually ben able to get any of those bullets?
I'd love to get hold of Sierra tgk's.
It's a niche market and it's not serviced well.
I'm not loading hornady 123's because I like them, I can't get my hands on good bullets.
135gr A-TIP: Yes, with some pretty impressive 26-28” barrel loads that kinda make the 6.5CM marginal.Has anybody tried or succeeded in developing loads for any of the following bullets in 6.5 Gren?
1. Hornady A-Tip 135gr
2. Hornady ELD-X 143gr
3. Nosler ABLR 142gr
4. Barnes LRX-BT 129gr
5. Sierra TGK 130gr
6. Berger VLD-H 130gr
7. Federal TA 130gr
Seems like some of these long range high BC bullets designed to reliably expand at lower speeds could be a good fit for the Grendel with its moderate muzzle velocities.
There are 124 active factory loads for 6.5 Grendel as of my last count in December, 2023. Even I was shocked at how many there are now.Not far compared to my mentors on here. Lol
The 6 arc technically has a lot of promise but you have to steal brass from under the 6.5g guys noses. I no longer post when brass for 6.5g is available because of that.
Niether cartridge is supported well, gee who ran them through SAAMI ? .LOL
So decent projectiles hard to get in one and brass hard to get in the other, want to buy some shity factory rounds? Lol
When I loaded the 129gr SST on LeveRevolution at 2.310” COL in the Howa mini action, I got maybe 50-75fps more velocity and sticky bolt lift, meaning the case expanded so much that it was difficult to unlock the action.Does anyone know why Hornady has separate gas and bolt hand loads for 6 ARC and the new 22 ARC but not for any of the other AR cartridges, especially the 6.5 Grendel? It looks like they can pack in an extra grain and a half or so for their bolt loads. Maybe due to the typical volume / case intrusion of 6.5 Grendel, there is just not any more room to pack in an extra grain and a half? I am only guessing.
It’s my go-to powder.All this talk of CFE223 has me getting a pound to try out.
What other bullets have you tried.My Grendel loves the
Hornady 123-grain SST
Keep us up on how it goes.All this talk of CFE223 has me getting a pound to try out.