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What’s your brass life, heard 6.5 prc guys holding primers, not fighting brass. I’m going to build one or the other thanksI'm not sure what problem this cartridge is solving. If I am buying a short magnum, I expect short magnum performance. This round appears to be pushing 140 grain bullets right under 3,000fps (according to Hornady) - just a little faster than the 6.5 Creedmoore.
My 24" 6.5 SAUM is comfortably pushing 140 grain bullets at 3,150fps. This feels like something in between a 6.5 Creedmoore and a 6.5 SAUM with the disadvantages of a magnum bolt face and reduced magazine capacity.
No comprende on why this makes sense. Why not just standardize on the 6.5 SAUM 4S (maybe renaming it) vs. creating a new round. Hornady already makes the 6.5 SAUM brass for GAP. Does anyone else have more insight?
--Roothsot
Interesting that guys are loading them over 2.9” OAL and the factory ammo is around 2.81”
I like the concept of the 6.5 SAUM, but right now it's much more of a hassle for people to actually shoot. Because Hornady has really thrown their support behind the 6.5 PRC, I can go to Cabela's and buy a box of it that's loaded and ready to go. It's not easy to even buy 6.5 SAUM brass, and nobody sells factory ammo for it. I know a bunch of you guys don't care because you reload everything you shoot, but for people like me that don't always have the time to reload, the ability to buy a few boxes or a case of factory ammo for when I want to shoot without having to load my own is pretty attractive, even if that does lose me 5% muzzle velocity. Honestly I'd be even happier if Federal or Hornady or someone had really started supporting 6.5 SAUM, but if I was going to build one or the other today, it'd be a 6.5 PRC since I think it's much more likely to become a mainstream cartridge like the Creedmoor did.
My biggest issue with the round is this. I went to three different gun stores near me today. Not a single one had PRC ammo on the shelf. I'd be going mad if I bought a rifle that I couldn't find ammo for. Maybe the support will kick up in the coming months.
Can 6.5 PRC feed from an AW mag?
My biggest issue with the round is this. I went to three different gun stores near me today. Not a single one had PRC ammo on the shelf. I'd be going mad if I bought a rifle that I couldn't find ammo for. Maybe the support will kick up in the coming months.
I just picked up my AI AXMC 6.5 PRC barrel from MHSA today. They have a carbide reamer and have several builds being machined now.
6.5 PRC in Production Division seem like a viable angle, provided factory ammo shoots as good as the Hornady 6.5 Creed stuff does.
Seems like that's the 6.5 PRC niche...factory ammo support.
If building a custom....and mashing your own rounds...why not use 7 RSAUM Norma brass and either turn the extra case capacity into 75-100 fps for the heavier bullets, or lower pressure/case life for the medium/lighter bullets.
With the high BC 6.5 bullets getting longer/heavier, and as popular as the 7 RSAUM is in square range F-Open competition, you can bet brass mfgs have 7 RSAUM on their short list for proposed production.
Glad to see the choices and options are out there.
Yes, I'm using the Magnum bolt and the Magnum mags. Filled a mag in the store with 10 rounds and the rounds cycled thru as fast as one could work the bolt. If I have a problem with the rounds moving forward and back in the overly long mag, I'm going to build a nylon insert of some type.As I wrap my head around the PRS rounds from 224V-6CM-6.5CM-6.5PRC, the AI AXMC for the PRC round makes a lot of sense. I’m not totally familiar with the AXMC chassis- So you’d use the 300WM bolt and do those mags work?
A friend of mine was considering doing this exact same thing. But after looking at the 6.5 PRC, he changed his mind and is having a custom built around it instead. He does not plan on buying factory ammo, he bought supplies to reload. He has a lot of H1000, Retumbo, etc. that he plans on doing load development with.
As to why he changed his mind, I'm not too sure but he has 3 young children and time is always a factor for him.
He may have watched one neck turning video, and said not for me!
It's pretty sweet to have this many great choices....6.5 Swede/Creed/47 Lapua brass, PRC great performance with factory ammo support, SAUM/4S Norma brass top level performance...hard to go wrong, best to pick one and get good at shooting it.
Not sure how you feel about them, but McGowen and Carbonsix offer the PRC in a Savage pre-fit.I'm really considering starting a build in 6.5 PRC. The only thing that's holding be back is lack of finding a pre-fit barrel for a savage style action and I'm not sure I want to buy a reamer.
Honestly I haven't heard much about them. As of right now I only checked a few main barrel companies (Criterion, Bartlein, Krieger) and so far they don't have reamers but will build one for the added cost of the tooling.Not sure how you feel about them, but McGowen and Carbonsix offer the PRC in a Savage pre-fit.
Honestly I haven't heard much about them. As of right now I only checked a few main barrel companies (Criterion, Bartlein, Krieger) and so far they don't have reamers but will build one for the added cost of the tooling.
Yes, I'm using the Magnum bolt and the Magnum mags. Filled a mag in the store with 10 rounds and the rounds cycled thru as fast as one could work the bolt. If I have a problem with the rounds moving forward and back in the overly long mag, I'm going to build a nylon insert of some type.
The round would fit into the 308 mag for length- but would the lips allow it to feed? I guess the AX308 would work if there was a magnum face bolt for that short action? Is there?
I'll give them a shout today.You might want to give MHSA (Mile High Shooting Accesories) a call. They have the reamer and stock Bartlein and Proof barrel blanks.
- Carl
I too am interested in a pre-fit barrel, so I contacted Proof Research to see what they thought. Sounds like they also have plans to start offering the PRC in the coming months.I'll give them a shout today.
I just picked up my AI AXMC 6.5 PRC barrel from MHSA today. They have a carbide reamer and have several builds being machined now.
I'm not sure what problem this cartridge is solving. If I am buying a short magnum, I expect short magnum performance. This round appears to be pushing 140 grain bullets right under 3,000fps (according to Hornady) - just a little faster than the 6.5 Creedmoore.
My 24" 6.5 SAUM is comfortably pushing 140 grain bullets at 3,150fps. This feels like something in between a 6.5 Creedmoore and a 6.5 SAUM with the disadvantages of a magnum bolt face and reduced magazine capacity.
No comprende on why this makes sense. Why not just standardize on the 6.5 SAUM 4S (maybe renaming it) vs. creating a new round. Hornady already makes the 6.5 SAUM brass for GAP. Does anyone else have more insight?
--Roothsot
The case is the same length as a 260 rem.Any issues with COAL and fitting in a mag real world?