6X5 Thread V5.0 *new 1/1/21*

Just got back from the range. FINALLY caught a day with virtually no wind. Got there at 8am after looking at the weather and seeing it dead out there. Had some 5mph gusts here and there but Ill call that dead compared to the last month of windy days! This Keystone Accuracy RimX Green Mountain is straight hammering at both 50yd and 100yds. Some tiny ass groups laid down and awesome 10x5 and 6x5 numbers. Best deal on RimX barrels going right now for the money.

Zermatt RimX
20" Keystone Accuracy Green Mountain
22LR Match Eachus chamber (my custom chamber)
100yds
0-5mph infrequent breeze
56F

This chamber continues to shot it shoots almost everything I throw at it good. I have not lot tested or cherry picked this as magical ammo. I grabbed and shot 2 lots of new bricks of CenterX I just received and shot at 50yds, and same lot of Ultramatch Ive been shooting. Shot them all great. That best group of 0.187" is just awesome. This Keystone Accuracy GM has shot my personal best in group size at both 50 and 100yd, best 6x5's, and 10x5's.

I have ever shot fired on the below target on video from this morning. Just gotta pull it off my 4K camcorder and post it up.

Best 10x5: 0.662"
Best 6x5: 0.592"
Best Group: 0.187"





I think I'm correct, but wanted to confirm the numbers posted are from 100 yards. You mentioned shooting 50 yards also so I wasn't sure.
 
Here's 3 boring ass videos of me shooting all 150rd on the above posted 100yd target for anyone that cares. And a 4th video picking up the camera at the firing line and walking to the 100yd backstop to show the target just shot. You know, because this is the internet and video or it never happened.








 
Cuzz, that's some fine shooting! I've been waiting to see more info about the Vudoo BR rifle but when I look at your rifle and data, it's hard to imagine a BR version will shoot better than I'm seeing you shoot from a bipod and bag.

Very nice work with your rifle!
I feel the same way about the BR, if I had yo money , i’d order one just to see!
 
I feel the same way about the BR, if I had yo money , i’d order one just to see!
Haha! I have one rifle, an Anschutz 1903 in a benchrest stock, and have been shooting postal matches for a couple of years. It's time to sell that one, and get me a shooter like yours. Just waiting to see if Mike has something up his sleeve with the new rifle. You set a high standard for him to improve on with the new rifle. Before the year is out, I will have me a Vudoo, repeater or single-shot, one way or the other...

Take care and good shooting!
 
Haha! I have one rifle, an Anschutz 1903 in a benchrest stock, and have been shooting postal matches for a couple of years. It's time to sell that one, and get me a shooter like yours. Just waiting to see if Mike has something up his sleeve with the new rifle. You set a high standard for him to improve on with the new rifle. Before the year is out, I will have me a Vudoo, repeater or single-shot, one way


Take care and good shooting!
i shot this backup a few minutes ago, usually takes me about 30-45 min. It’s not quite as good as yesterday but enough to make me think my “break through” is gona stick. Hey J, don’t waste your time on thisun.
 

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I recently put a Vortex Strike Eagle 5-25 on my 10-22. I was shooting some 100 yard groups and on the last 2 groups I was shooting fast before the wind changed. Wind was 5-10 MPH and swirling a little. This will be in last place, but hey, it's a 10-22. ;)

Best group: .777" and average was 1.471". Bench, bi-pod and rear bag. Ignore the holes in the bottom of the target. That was a different rifle. Cold bore shot really opened up the first group.

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jbell, I was able to complete a 100 and 200 6x5 today. I also took a pic of my setup for your files.

Anschutz 1903 SBR (stock barreled action)(IMG 1710)
Athlon 10x40 scope
Eley Team
Temp 63F, Humidity 95%, Wind WSW 5 mph (per my phone app)(very slight winds today)

100 average (IMG 1716, 1717, 1718):
1.000
0.560
0.750
1.187
0.375
0.875 = 4.747/6 = 0.791 average

Best group = 0.375

200 average (IMG 1715):
3.000
2.625
3.375
2.250
1.560
2.250 = 15.06/6 = 2.51 average

Best group = 1.560
 

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I didn't get to the range till late in the evening today. Had time to shoot one 6x5 and then move on to practicing silhouette targets with iron sights. Screwed by the wind again. This rifle will shoot well, but I need to work on my wind reading and patience.

I was shooting the Remington 37 topped with the Leupold 30x40.
Ammo was SK Standard Plus.
Target distance 50 yards.
Wind 12mph with gusts, shifting from 12 o'clock to 2 o'clock.
.42
.43
.55
.61
.36
.30

Average Group Size = .445
Average MOA = 0.850

Best Group Size = .300
Best MOA = 0.573

I've updated my spreadsheet with everyone's scores for the last week.

Here's the google spreadsheet downloadable as an Excel file or viewable as an html file.

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Got the Bartlein screwd on this morning, the 3rd in my RimX review. I was at the range by 8:30am to get this testing in before the wind picked up. Had a 3-8 MPH wind, temps were 68F.

This Bartlein has taken the cake so far out of the 3 barrels Ive tested. Super consistent across all the ammo tested where the other barrels generally had 1 or 2 that shot well. I had 3 different types of ammo that beat my best 6x5 results to date on this one target. Whats even more amazing is the 10x5 results in the 0.1's!! But that SK+ holly shit. Threw flyers in the first 2 barrels in almost every group. Not this barrel. It LOVES it!

No video today, I brought the camcorder but forgot the tripod at this house this morning. I will have video recording next outing when I take this baby out to 100yd.

20" Keystone Accuracy Bartlein
Zermatt RimX
M24 Contour
Muzzle Threaded 1/2-28 (0.400" Long)
22LR Match Eachus chamber


CenterX - 700427
10x5= 0.192" AGG
6x5= 0.180" AGG

CenterX - 606324
10x5= 0.281" AGG
6x5= 0.222" AGG

Federal UM22
10x5= 0.252" AGG
6x5= 0.197" AGG

Federal Match 922A
10x5= 0.361" AGG
6x5= 0.396" AGG

Wolf Match Extra - 30104
10x5= 0.378" AGG
6x5= 0.340" AGG

SK Rifle Match - 13294
10x5= 0.385" AGG
6x5= 0.362" AGG

SK Standard + - 20012
10x5= 0.249" AGG
6x5= 0.197" AGG




Target below was shot from left to right. Started with bottom row and finished with top row.












 
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I have a purdy good start on a 6x5 but the wind picked up so i stopped. I hope the wind will settle down this eve and i will attempt to finish.
My question is can i shoot a couple of sighters 6-8 hours later before start my 3 rd group? ThanksView attachment 7329624

The 6 groups are to be shot consecutively 30 shots in a row from how I understand the rules.
 
Got the Bartlein screwd on this morning, the 3rd in my RimX review. I was at the range by 8:30am to get this testing in before the wind picked up. Had a 3-8 MPH wind, temps were 68F.

This Bartlein has taken the cake so far out of the 3 barrels Ive tested. Super consistent across all the ammo tested where the other barrels generally had 1 or 2 that shot well. I had 3 different types of ammo that beat my best 6x5 results to date on this one target. Whats even more amazing is the 10x5 results in the 0.1's!! But that SK+ holly shit. Threw flyers in the first 2 barrels in almost every group. Not this barrel. It LOVES it!

No video today, I brought the camcorder but forgot the tripod at this house this morning. I will have video recording next outing when I take this baby out to 100yd.

20" Keystone Accuracy Bartlein
Zermatt RimX
M24 Contour
Muzzle Threaded 1/2-28 (0.400" Long)
22LR Match Eachus chamber


CenterX - 700427
10x5= 0.192" AGG
6x5= 0.182" AGG

CenterX - 606324
10x5= 0.281" AGG
6x5= 0.222" AGG

Federal UM22
10x5= 0.252" AGG
6x5= 0.197" AGG

Federal Match 922A
10x5= 0.361" AGG
6x5= 0.396" AGG

Wolf Match Extra - 30104
10x5= 0.378" AGG
6x5= 0.340" AGG

SK Rifle Match - 13294
10x5= 0.385" AGG
6x5= 0.362" AGG

SK Standard + - 20012
10x5= 0.249" AGG
6x5= 0.197" AGG




Target below was shot from left to right. Started with bottom row and finished with top row.













Padom, phenomenal ! Seymour
 
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Got the Bartlein screwd on this morning, the 3rd in my RimX review. I was at the range by 8:30am to get this testing in before the wind picked up. Had a 3-8 MPH wind, temps were 68F.

This Bartlein has taken the cake so far out of the 3 barrels Ive tested. Super consistent across all the ammo tested where the other barrels generally had 1 or 2 that shot well. I had 3 different types of ammo that beat my best 6x5 results to date on this one target. Whats even more amazing is the 10x5 results in the 0.1's!! But that SK+ holly shit. Threw flyers in the first 2 barrels in almost every group. Not this barrel. It LOVES it!

No video today, I brought the camcorder but forgot the tripod at this house this morning. I will have video recording next outing when I take this baby out to 100yd.

20" Keystone Accuracy Bartlein
Zermatt RimX
M24 Contour
Muzzle Threaded 1/2-28 (0.400" Long)
22LR Match Eachus chamber


CenterX - 700427
10x5= 0.192" AGG
6x5= 0.182" AGG

CenterX - 606324
10x5= 0.281" AGG
6x5= 0.222" AGG

Federal UM22
10x5= 0.252" AGG
6x5= 0.197" AGG

Federal Match 922A
10x5= 0.361" AGG
6x5= 0.396" AGG

Wolf Match Extra - 30104
10x5= 0.378" AGG
6x5= 0.340" AGG

SK Rifle Match - 13294
10x5= 0.385" AGG
6x5= 0.362" AGG

SK Standard + - 20012
10x5= 0.249" AGG
6x5= 0.197" AGG




Target below was shot from left to right. Started with bottom row and finished with top row.













Nice! What scope are you using? How did you calculate your 6x5? I can't reproduce your numbers. I added all your results to my spreadsheet.
 
Nice! What scope are you using? How did you calculate your 6x5? I can't reproduce your numbers. I added all your results to my spreadsheet.

Add all 10 groups then divide by 10...add 6 best groups in a row and divide by 6. They correct, don't you worry. All triple checked with calculator
 
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When you dont have service where you shoot thats not possible. Ive been doing this long enough and post enough video and pictures if anyone wants to call me a liar I could care less. Doubters gonna doubt.

Not calling anyone a liar, just can't reproduce your numbers. In fact, if I sort each set from lowest to highest and calculate the top 6 average for the 6x5, the numbers are actually better than what you reported in your image.
 
Not calling anyone a liar, just can't reproduce your numbers. In fact, if I sort each set from lowest to highest and calculate the top 6 average for the 6x5, the numbers are actually better than what you reported in your image.

And thats why we have someone that handles calculating, checking and posting the results and keeping track.... @jbell

You dont sort and pic the top best 6 groups..... I shoot 10x5's.... The 6x5 must be 6 consecutive groups.... not the best 6 groups out of my 10 groups.... Soooo.... if you take the top row, labeled #7 CenterX. Add up the first 6 groups from left to right (which is how I shot them)... That is: 0.222 + 0.144 + 0.217 + 0.074 + 0.150 + 0.271 = 1.078 / 6 = 0.1796666" Ill round that up to 0.180".... I wrote on the target 0.182". I was off by 0.002 not in my favor... I just posted that correction above... My 10x5 is correct.. Thanks for having me check and lower my score!
 
And it appears my math was off, my number is actually too high on the top row. From left to right, first 6 groups is 0.1796" on my calculator... Not 0.182"
padom, good shooting. He was only bringing up the point since his calc did not match yours. Your note says to add the best 6 groups in a row and divide by 6. Your recheck is correct with the average of 0.180. Very good shooting indeed!
 
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I need some hillbilly simplification here please. I'm a high power rifle shooter just getting g into this 22lr stuff. What is a 6x5? Also I'd like to keep practicing with what I'm doing out to 200 yards. So far this is the absolutely best I've done at 100 yards. How do I measure it and push myself to get where you guys are at? Please pardon my lack of understanding the 6x5. Any clarification would be appreciated, thanks, Jeremy
 

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I need some hillbilly simplification here please. I'm a high power rifle shooter just getting g into this 22lr stuff. What is a 6x5? Also I'd like to keep practicing with what I'm doing out to 200 yards. So far this is the absolutely best I've done at 100 yards. How do I measure it and push myself to get where you guys are at? Please pardon my lack of understanding the 6x5. Any clarification would be appreciated, thanks, Jeremy

It is 6 groups in a row, 5 shots each...
 
I need some hillbilly simplification here please. I'm a high power rifle shooter just getting g into this 22lr stuff. What is a 6x5? Also I'd like to keep practicing with what I'm doing out to 200 yards. So far this is the absolutely best I've done at 100 yards. How do I measure it and push myself to get where you guys are at? Please pardon my lack of understanding the 6x5. Any clarification would be appreciated, thanks, Jeremy
Go to post #1, it explains it pretty good.
 
And thats why we have someone that handles calculating, checking and posting the results and keeping track.... @jbell

You dont sort and pic the top best 6 groups..... I shoot 10x5's.... The 6x5 must be 6 consecutive groups.... not the best 6 groups out of my 10 groups.... Soooo.... if you take the top row, labeled #7 CenterX. Add up the first 6 groups from left to right (which is how I shot them)... That is: 0.222 + 0.144 + 0.217 + 0.074 + 0.150 + 0.271 = 1.078 / 6 = 0.1796666" Ill round that up to 0.180".... I wrote on the target 0.182". I was off by 0.002 not in my favor... I just posted that correction above... My 10x5 is correct.. Thanks for having me check and lower my score!
Sorry, not trying to be nuisance, I was just wondering because I was trying to figure out what number to use for the best group size for my spreadsheet in the 6x5. I tried taking the first 6 or the top 6 and couldn't reproduce your numbers. This is what I'm getting according to your method described above.

6x5 AverageBest Group
Center-X
0.222​
0.144​
0.217​
0.074​
0.150​
0.271​
0.180
0.074
Center-X
0.304​
0.575​
0.364​
0.187​
0.138​
0.307​
0.313
0.138
Federal UM22
0.232​
0.082​
0.124​
0.329​
0.269​
0.147​
0.197
0.082
Federal Match 922A
0.275​
0.267​
0.231​
0.459​
0.408​
0.787​
0.405
0.231
Wolf Match Extra
0.344​
0.260​
0.515​
0.620​
0.363​
0.222​
0.387
0.222
SK Rifle Match
0.419​
0.248​
0.441​
0.405​
0.581​
0.251​
0.391
0.248
SK Standard Plus
0.297​
0.410​
0.243​
0.277​
0.148​
0.235​
0.268
0.148
 
I need some hillbilly simplification here please. I'm a high power rifle shooter just getting g into this 22lr stuff. What is a 6x5? Also I'd like to keep practicing with what I'm doing out to 200 yards. So far this is the absolutely best I've done at 100 yards. How do I measure it and push myself to get where you guys are at? Please pardon my lack of understanding the 6x5. Any clarification would be appreciated, thanks, Jeremy
Jeremy, check out page one of this thread, as jbell explains the process pretty well. You can shoot 6 (targets or bulleyes) with 5 shots on each and then measure the group size. You take the two shots that are the farthest away from the 5 shot group, and measure the distance between them. You can use a ruler with 1/16th's of an inch increments or use a caliper. Measure from the center of one of the widest holes to the center of the other widest hole, and record that info for that group size. Do that on each target or bullseye, and also collect the additional data outlined on page one of the thread and you should be set. One page one, go to the "current" section where jbell records everyone's data that is submitted to him. You'll need to record your info on the targets, and take a picture and then post to this forum, use "attach files" below to add your targets, and then hit "post reply". jbell will respond if there's any info missing and will confirm he has your target data recorded on the "Current" list on page one. If you need any other help or have questions, feel free to post a note and the folks here will help you out. Good luck!
 
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Sorry, not trying to be nuisance, I was just wondering because I was trying to figure out what number to use for the best group size for my spreadsheet in the 6x5. I tried taking the first 6 or the top 6 and couldn't reproduce your numbers. This is what I'm getting according to your method described above.

6x5 AverageBest Group
Center-X
0.222​
0.144​
0.217​
0.074​
0.150​
0.271​
0.180
0.074
Center-X
0.304​
0.575​
0.364​
0.187​
0.138​
0.307​
0.313
0.138
Federal UM22
0.232​
0.082​
0.124​
0.329​
0.269​
0.147​
0.197
0.082
Federal Match 922A
0.275​
0.267​
0.231​
0.459​
0.408​
0.787​
0.405
0.231
Wolf Match Extra
0.344​
0.260​
0.515​
0.620​
0.363​
0.222​
0.387
0.222
SK Rifle Match
0.419​
0.248​
0.441​
0.405​
0.581​
0.251​
0.391
0.248
SK Standard Plus
0.297​
0.410​
0.243​
0.277​
0.148​
0.235​
0.268
0.148
CoolJJ, per the rules, we have to shoot 6 consecutive targets, 5 shots each, and then report those results. You average all 5 groups for the total average (like you did on the Lapua Center-X, row one above, 0.180 is the total average. Next, review those same 6 targets, and record the smallest group as the best group (like you did above on the same Lapua row (0.074)). When folks submit new targets, both numbers (from a tracking how well folks are doing perspective) may change if they are able to shoot a better overall average or a smaller single group.

Hope this helps?
 
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