9mm Carbine/SBR Suggestions?

[BCP]

Looking at a 9mm carbine, possibly for SBR later on as I'm in AZ.

So far I've tried out the scorpion and the stribog, liked both especially the stribog price.

 

[hlee]

Got a FM AR9 recently. Not many rounds through it, but no hiccups. Shoots little groups at 25y with a red dot. Familiar controls. Last round hold open. Glock mags. Standard AR triggers, safety selectors, furniture, and small parts. Side charging. Threaded barrel. A lot to like at ~$650…

 

[hafejd30]

I lika do da cha cha
Waiting on the 36M

 

[saberwalk]

Have both the Scorpion and B&T APC9. I like the APC9 better but both are pretty fun. Both are SBR'ed but here in the people's republic of MD, you also need to meet an overall length of 29" which makes for some weird configurations.

Fully compressed, the APC9 is 26.25" and only about 16.5" when the stock is folded.

 

[502Chevelle]

Love my Leadstar. Run it in uspsa and it runs strong. Doesn’t jam, and just keep going and going. I also have a JP that I like a lot. It is a little heavier than the Leadstar, and the recoil is simply zero. It also runs without hiccup. Can’t go wrong with either in my opinion.

 

[_Windrider_]

I lika do da cha cha
Waiting on the 36M

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The scorpion is just too much fun. The PSA AK-V is nice for a a PSA, but there is a Kalash USA AK-9 in the PX right now that I would buy before any PSA.

 

[Huskydriver]

Htf did an sp5 not make this list....


I have had or shot all the above and still prefer my HK mp5 over all of them

Slap a dead air wolfmann on there and money....

 

[BCP]

Htf did an sp5 not make this list....

They 3 fucking grand now

 

[Huskydriver]

They 3 fucking grand now

How much are you getting a bt for?

Annnnd before anyone else beats me to it....

Seriously though...I would take the bt over all the above if hk was not an option...striboga3 would be my next

 

[BCP]

How much are you getting a bt for?

Annnnd before anyone else beats me to it....

Seriously though...I would take the bt over all the above if hk was not an option...striboga3 would be my next

Ha yeah the Stribog is more my budget. The Brugger model I looked at had a brace and short barrel for I think 2200.

 

[ut755ln]

Flannel Daddy AKV

 

[mrtoyz]

IMO MPX wins hands down in every way.
If price is the issue then look at the Kalashnikov USA KP-9.

 

[BCP]

Ordered the stribog, it's supposed to ship monday so now I need a red dot for it.

 

[Huskydriver]

Mro

 

[TonyTheTiger]

IMO MPX wins hands down in every way.

In every way except for maintenance requirements and complexity maybe.

 

[Kamerad]

Ordered the stribog, it's supposed to ship monday so now I need a red dot for it.

I just filled out paperwork today for a Stribog as well, should get to take it home in a week or so.

I’ll try an Aimpoint CompM2 that I have on hand. If I find I want to go smaller, I’ll get another Aimpoint Acro.

Are you planning on putting a brace on yours?

 

[mrtoyz]

In every way except for maintenance requirements and complexity maybe.

How so??

 

[BCP]

I just filled out paperwork today for a Stribog as well, should get to take it home in a week or so.

I’ll try an Aimpoint CompM2 that I have on hand. If I find I want to go smaller, I’ll get another Aimpoint Acro.

Are you planning on putting a brace on yours?

Yeap has the folding triangle brace, was looking at a sig or vortex red dot since it's still black friday shenanigans pricing.

 

[TonyTheTiger]

How so??

Everyone I know that shoots an MPX competitively brings two of them to every match. Because no matter how much time you spend cleaning them and swapping worn parts you're almost guaranteed to find the next failure in the middle of a match. That's what people who love them tell me, you should hear what the people who threw theirs in the trash have to say about them.

 

[BCP]

Everyone I know that shoots an MPX competitively brings two of them to every match. Because no matter how much time you spend cleaning them and swapping worn parts you're almost guaranteed to find the next failure in the middle of a match. That's what people who love them tell me, you should hear what the people who threw theirs in the trash have to say about them.

MPX doesn't appeal to me, I'd buy a Ruger "Lubbock Hammer" 9mm rifle before the MPX...

 

[mrtoyz]

Everyone I know that shoots an MPX competitively brings two of them to every match. Because no matter how much time you spend cleaning them and swapping worn parts you're almost guaranteed to find the next failure in the middle of a match. That's what people who love them tell me, you should hear what the people who threw theirs in the trash have to say about them.

I find it interesting, and quite telling, that so much of the firearm shit talking and exaggerating is done by people that don’t actually own said firearm.
Well, I guess you can count us as the only people on the web with MPX’s that have run flawlessly after the initial 200’ish breakin rounds.

 

[TonyTheTiger]

I find it interesting, and quite telling, that so much of the firearm shit talking and exaggerating is done by people that don’t actually own said firearm.
Well, I guess you can count us as the only people on the web with MPX’s that have run flawlessly after the initial 200’ish breakin rounds.

I find it interesting that when someone owns a firearm any story they hear about it that they don't like is immediately labeled as exaggerating and shit talking. Too much emotional attachment I guess. I don't own them because watching them fail every weekend is all I need to see. How many rounds do you have through yours?

 

[FWoo45]

Chad and Kyle vote Ruger PCC.

 

[BullGear]

SP5 is the only way to go. All others are just also rans......

 

[saberwalk]

Ordered the stribog, it's supposed to ship monday so now I need a red dot for it.

Don't own one and have not shot one, so take this with a grain of salt but the inter web says get the curved magazines: . Given how much he railed against the Stribog previously, a pretty solid endorsement.

 

[BCP]

Yeah if I like it then more mags is a given, 25$ a pop is easy enough. If they were 50-60$ special order bullshit I wouldn't have bought the gun.

 

[saberwalk]

SP5 is the only way to go. All others are just also rans......

Shot the mp5 and mp5k in full auto over the weekend. they were both very soft shooting and accurate but don‘t get all the excitement myself. Maybe I need more time on one

 

[Huskydriver]

Shot the mp5 and mp5k in full auto over the weekend. they were both very soft shooting and accurate but don‘t get all the excitement myself. Maybe I need more time on one

Was it suppressed?

 

[saberwalk]

Was it suppressed?

No: https://themachinegunnest.com/rentals/Full Auto/mp5. Also in need of some maintenance but still, easy to handle and control the recoil. The sight picture though, spoiled by red dots.

 

[Huskydriver]

No: https://themachinegunnest.com/rentals/Full Auto/mp5. Also in need of some maintenance but still, easy to handle and control the recoil. The sight picture though, spoiled by red dots.

An mp5 really shines when compared against the other pccs when suppressed.....

Shooting unsuppressed is rather uncooth

 

[saberwalk]

An mp5 really shines when compared against the other pccs when suppressed.....

Shooting unsuppressed is rather uncooth

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I would agree if it didn’t take forever to get a form 4. Big news though, apparently the form 4 is going e form so here is hoping it gets down to less than 30 days like the form 1: https://www.nationalguntrusts.com/b...ase-blog/atf-eform-4-update-available-in-2019.

 

[Huskydriver]

I would agree if it didn’t take forever to get a form 4. Big news though, apparently the form 4 is going e form so here is hoping it gets down to less than 30 days like the form 1: https://www.nationalguntrusts.com/b...ase-blog/atf-eform-4-update-available-in-2019.

2stamp guns or gtfo

 

[fanninland]

Shot a friend’s MPX, went looking for one about same time MPX prices went crazy.
Found an APC9 here on SH for about the same price.
Happiness ensued….

 

[hlee]

Shot a friend’s MPX, went looking for one about same time MPX prices went crazy.
Found an APC9 here on SH for about the same price.
Happiness ensued….
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Is that a YHM R9 suppressor? If so, how do you like it?

 

[AXEFORCE6]

What about a Kriss Vector?

 

[Huskydriver]

What about a Kriss Vector?

Recoil impulse takes getting used to imo

 

[saberwalk]

Shot a friend’s MPX, went looking for one about same time MPX prices went crazy.
Found an APC9 here on SH for about the same price.
Happiness ensued….
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Sweet. 8 months in, still waiting on my suppressor

 

[fanninland]

Is that a YHM R9 suppressor? If so, how do you like it?

Yes, I like it a lot. Seems maybe a tad heavier than the Obsidian 45 I was using as placeholder but it’s shorter, appears well made and suppression is excellent, especially with subs (of course). No function issues - the B&T continues to run flawlessly and accurately. For a dedicated PCC can at it’s pricepoint the R9 is hard to beat.

 

[Huskydriver]

Dat mustard tho....

Needs to do the receiver in ral8000 and complete that hk 50 shades of fde

 

[Huskydriver]

I have no respect for you unless that thing is full auto

It is but it's not mine............

 

[Hollywood 6mm]

I went the weirdo/ghetto route - MPA DMG pistol turned SBR with the MPA factory side folding stock, Smith Custom foregrip, Omega 9k on a 3-lug, and a Bushnell RXS-250 red dot on an AR height mount.

Folded and can removed, it's pretty damn tiny. Even deployed and can on, it's not big. Groups are acceptable. Wasn't all that expensive, even with can and 2 stamps.

Down side is it's near impossible to make it eat anything other than ball, and it's got plenty of port pop with the can. It's fun as shit to shoot, though.

 

[Hollywood 6mm]

Pics or you're full of shit

Since you asked....

Fun to shoot? Hell yes.

Cheap for being a two stamp rig? Definitely.

As good as an MP5K-PDW? Fuck no.

Do I still plan to build an MP5k-PDW SBR one day? Absolutely.

But this ghetto blaster is entertaining as hell, and has at least a small amount of utility. I'm planning to smoke a hog with it and NVGs at some point soon just because I think it will be hilarious.

 

[Ric O'shay]

Just pick one to get started. You will end up owning most of them anyway. SMG's are crack like.

 

[Hollywood 6mm]

Dat thing is ghetto blaster AF

Yup. That was the point. I threw on the Surefire Scout Pro for extra WTF factor.

 

[padom]

I sold my AR9 SBR that I ran a dedicated Form 1 can on and fed it 165gr N340 sub handloads.. as quiet as my supressed subsonic 22lr's and those 165's hit hard. Really enjoyed that gun.. all jp internals, buffer, bolt. 7.5" barrel


I just bought a PTR 9KT MP5 clone this week from Atlantic Firearms on sale for $1579.99. They were going for $2800 the past year, if you could find 1 in stock so once I found this in stock and on sale I bought it. Should be here next week. Will sport an Aimpoint and A3 Tactical offset folding brace. It will be shot 100% supressed, Rugged Obsidian 45 with tri lug adapter fed 147 and 165 subs.

My buddy has had the same PTR 9KT and a 9CT for over a year. He hasn't had any problems with his, runs great with 147 and 165 subs.


PTR 9KT

PTR 9KT Pistol-SALE - AtlanticFirearms.com

PTR Industries 9KT 9MM Pistol 897903003173. Semi automatic 9MM Pistol that can use HK MP5 parts. PTR 603 Great home defense option.

atlanticfirearms.com

Longer PTR 9CT in stock as well

PTR 9CT Pistol SALE - AtlanticFirearms.com

PTR 9CT Pistol- 897903003104. PTR 601 Semi automatic threaded barrel roller delayed blowback pistol great for range fun or home defense.

atlanticfirearms.com

 

[Hollywood 6mm]

I just bought a PTR 9KT MP5 clone this week from Atlantic Firearms on sale for $1579.99.

Nope.... Nopenopenope. I didn't see that. I know nothing....

I hate you a little right now.

 

[padom]

Nope.... Nopenopenope. I didn't see that. I know nothing....

I hate you a little right now.

Do ittttttt. Lol

I've been watching for them to be back in stock under $2000 for a year almost. $1579.99 was a no brainer instant take my money. Almost bought the 9KT and 9CT at that price but almost 9" barrel + can on the 9CT was a no for me

 

[Hollywood 6mm]

Do ittttttt. Lol

I've been watching for them to be back in stock under $2000 for a year almost. $1579.99 was a no brainer instant take my money. Almost bought the 9KT and 9CT at that price.

It'll be a while. I'm stocking money away right now for a clip-on NV unit and I need to behave. Especially considering there's no fuckin' way I'd stop at the pistol. As soon as the 4473 was done I'd be filing a Form 1, ordering a stock and VFG, more mags, changing out rollers, etc.

 

[padom]

It'll be a while. I'm stocking money away right now for a clip-on NV unit and I need to behave. Especially considering there's no fuckin' way I'd stop at the pistol. As soon as the 4473 was done I'd be filing a Form 1, ordering a stock and VFG, more mags, changing out rollers, etc.

Lolol

I ordered the A3 Tactical offset steady folding brace

MODULAR FOLDING BRACE - HK MP5-K/SP5-K (Dual-pin) and clones

The A3 Tactical Modular Brace system for the HK MP5-K and clones is a unique, modular system that comes complete with rear adapter, dual-folding hinge, brace extension, and your choice of arm stabilizing brace.

a3-tactical-inc.myshopify.com

Im not sbr this for carry reasons in my Vertx Gammut I take with me daily for work. Keeping it a pistol. I also ordered 4 more metal 30rd curved KCI mags and an Aimpoint T2. Deciding on a small light for the mlok rail still

Cost me less for all of it then if I bought one on gunbroker back in Jan/Feb....

 

[Ric O'shay]

^^How is that a brace and not a stock? Odd design.