A.R. sniper rifles

Navygunmen

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I currently wanting to build an A.R. style sniper rifle. I realize the rifle does not make you a sniper. With that being said, I am thinking aobut a 6.5 grendel, a 6.5 creedmoor or the 6.8 spc. Im going more for a sniper/assult rifle(As much as possible). I'm thinking of using a Satern barrel. I'm thinking of going with a stage two trigger from http://www.x-tremeshooting.com/. I have one in my A.R. -10 and it's amazing. For my glass I am debating between Nightforce and U.S. Optics. Any feed back would be great. Off topic can anyone suggest a good green laser/flash light combo for rifle and pistol?
 
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LMAO! Classic 2nd post considering your first was the same in a different thread that you hijacked. Just a piece of advice. The term "sniper rifle" is used more by children with airsoft guns. 99% of the guys and gals here refer to their weapons as precision rifles.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Navygunman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Im going more for a sniper/assult rifle(As much as possible).</div></div>

Maybe it's just me, but that seems like an odd combination.
 
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Here is a "CQB" rifle with a scope:

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its a 308 I used for a course at thunderranch.
 
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A precision rifle is a general term. In fact if you google it the first link is for a muzzleloader. This is my first day on here I'm trying to figure this site out. I'm not a computer nerd like some people on here. You need to get a life and post usefull info if you actually have any. Otherwise go shoot your airsoft gun you seem to know about those!
 
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Lol yeah it works wonders. My debate between socpes in pretty much between a Night Force,U.S. Optics or Schmidt and Bender. I have used Night Force and I like those a lot. I hear Schmidt and Bender might be better?
 
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Most people who use the term "Sniper" usually refer to long range, and the term assault usually means close range. Which one are you looking to build? The 6.8 SPC would be more for close range, and the 6.5 Grendel for long range.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Navygunman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lol yeah it works wonders. My debate between socpes in pretty much between a Night Force,U.S. Optics or Schmidt and Bender. I have used Night Force and I like those a lot. I hear Schmidt and Bender might be better? </div></div>

I own a NightForce and I love it but S&B is top choice when it comes to optics. For me the NF is all the scope I need and the durability is #1 in my book.
 
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6.5grendel and 6.8 spc are very different animals from the 6.5CM. Lots of guys like the grendel for hunting and reasonable distance target shooting, but the 6.5CM is a purpose designed LR cartridge that uses a .308 size bolt face and has to be run in an AR10 type/size platform. The other 2 are designed for the conventional .223 size AR type platform.

If your trying to build a genuine LR rifle, your on a perfectly reasonable track with any of the 6.5CM, 6.5 L or .260 rounds.(all very comparable)

The other two cartridges you listed are great for their intended purposes, the grendel is probably the better of the two for range.

You seem to be trying to build some type of med-LR DM rifle. Your AR10 is pretty much purpose built for that. You may be better off putting a 6.5CM barrel on that and rolling with it, and building a separate grendel/spc rifle.
 
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Yeah I was debating doing that as well. My A.R.-10 is built to the max now. I was going to trun A.R. 15 into a long range rifle. But I started reading how accurate the 6.5 Grendel is over the 5.56 along iwht more power. I guess I'm cought in a catch 22.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Navygunman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yeah I was debating doing that as well. My A.R.-10 is built to the max now. I was going to trun A.R. 15 into a long range rifle. But I started reading how accurate the 6.5 Grendel is over the 5.56 along iwht more power. I guess I'm cought in a catch 22. </div></div>

Just a quick question, but what kind of ranges are you looking at shooting with this rifle?

I would feel very confident with my 20" ar to 600yds with 77gr ammo, assuming I am shooting steel and paper.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Navygunman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yeah I was debating doing that as well. My A.R.-10 is built to the max now. I was going to trun A.R. 15 into a long range rifle. But I started reading how accurate the 6.5 Grendel is over the 5.56 along iwht more power. I guess I'm cought in a catch 22. </div></div>

Let's see some pics of your A.R.-10 ? Never have seen one designated like that yet.
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Bet this guy can build a helluva A,R, 15 to go with his A.R.-10:

http://www.myspace.com/navygunman/comments
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: juliomorris</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dam you gus tracked him down quik.Remind me not to piss you guys off. </div></div>

Don't look in Motivationals, then ...
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer G</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
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Polka-dots? </div></div>

I'm just calling Bullshit on his A.R.-10 "built to the max".Pics or it doesn't exist....
 
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Granted, I missed his first post. But you guys are being pretty hard on the FNG. This ain't Arfcom, and let's not go that route. But again, if this guy showed his ass from the start, fuck it, and go for it.

OP, I'm not some high speed low drag ultra sniper. Hell, these days at my age I'm more high drag low speed! But I think that you need to decide what you really want. You say that you have a decked out AR-10; you could always rebuild it for a longer range precision rig. Then, there are the 5.56 SPR types, that have exhibited good accuracy at 700+. But if you're heart is set on a 6.something, then go for it.
 
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Us optis, night force or a s&b Are the onlynoptics a real precision rifle gets topped with.....well swarovski and ior valdada (excuse me).

If you buy a 2k precision ar and put a $200 Chinese trijicon 4x32 it isn't a precision rifle.....get ready to shell out the cash if you want the real deal.
 
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Ok, so i got carried away....you could buy a parts kit for about 800 bucks and top it off with a 3k scope. It'll probabably shoot straight at least for a while but the lack of quality components just mean the rifle won't hold up to hard use while the scope lasts longer than your rifle will.

Think broken firing pins, broken extractors and springs that need to be replaced, and a barrel that wont last past 3,000 rounds. Build quality up front and it will last a lifetime if you take care of it.

If you just want to shoot for fun buy a cheap ass Chinese AK knock off and have fun until it breaks.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Navygunman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A precision rifle is a general term. In fact if you google it the first link is for a muzzleloader. This is my first day on here I'm trying to figure this site out. <span style="color: #FF0000"><span style="font-weight: bold">I'm not a computer nerd like some people on here. You need to get a life and post usefull info if you actually have any. Otherwise go shoot your airsoft gun you seem to know about those!</span></span></div></div>

I'm going to have to ask you to shut up and eat a dick, you don't come into someone's house and insult them within your first breath. if you want to talk about general terms then you should look no further than the term "sniper rifle". Ask a sniper what he carries and chances are those 2 words are not going to come out of his mouth. when you hear "sniper rifle" what is the first thing that pops into your head. probably a bolt action rifle with a scope. more than likely you couldn't tell the difference between an M40, and an M24, niether could I untill I discovered the vast wealth of knowlege that this site is. If you really want to learn.... quit running your mouth and READ. This site has more information AND expierience than you could ever imagine. As a newcomer, if you have nothing to bring to the table, then it's best if you think before you open your mouth.

Step 1: What is it that I am actually wanting to accomplish? Do I want to shoot long distance? Do I want to hunt with this rifle? Do I want to participate in 3 gun competitions? or do I just want to go to the local gun range and make a bunch of noise?

Step 2: Once you completed step 1, NOW is when you google. Find all the information that is readily available to you. What calibers actually fit into the niche your looking for. Once you pick your caliber, now move on to step 3

Step 3: How much am I going to invest in this firearm? once you set your price range, thats when you should read even more, as far as what are the options that are open to me within my guidellines.

Step 4: find as much literature, and information as you can about your specific configuration. This is where informational sites such as this one come in handy. read all the reviews that have been done on the products you are looking for. try and become a subject expert in the areas you are intrested in. (I'm not saying you have to know it all, but at least know the basics and some specifics such as what calibers are available to what platform.... AR-15 has 5.56, 6.8, 7.62x39, and so forth)

Step 5: If there is anything that you still can't figure out, or are unable to make your mind up, now is when you make your first post. That should go something along the lines of:

Hello all, new guy here, I'm intrested in (insert example here), I have read all I can find on said example and I still have questions about (insert topic here) I am looking at this platform for this pourpose and would like to know more about (insert example here). thank you for your time.


good example of one here: http://snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2416286&gonew=1#UNREAD
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Navygunman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yeah I was debating doing that as well. My A.R.-10 is built to the max now. I was going to trun A.R. 15 into a long range rifle. But I started reading how accurate the 6.5 Grendel is over the 5.56 along iwht more power. I guess I'm cought in a catch 22. </div></div>

Try using google to find yourself a spelling and grammar check program!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Speedgoat_ Junkie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You guys are brutal. </div></div>oh boy! like the man who mounted a scope backwards and said something is wrong with the scope at the gun shop years ago and /or a bait for a booby to trip it ...at best this maybe trouble in the making ! calling in lowlight to filter out this thread please before .....before the trip wire is hit thxs
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AtOne</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well said Kahlendrrari !
That should be a sticky for when to post a question lol. </div></div>

I second that.Makes a lot of sense.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Speedgoat_ Junkie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You guys are brutal. </div></div>

Thats one of the reasons I love this place!!!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: E3C3H3O3</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Speedgoat_ Junkie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You guys are brutal. </div></div>

Thats one of the reasons I love this place!!! </div></div>

I know deep down somewhere that this whole thing is worth an xtranormal video.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kahlendrrari</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm not trying to win any popularity contests here, but I'm fucking sick and tired of people wanting to be spponfed shit they can spend less time looking up than waiting for a reply..... where is that Xtranormal video, here it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evr_tP9cJWY&feature=player_embedded </div></div>

Yea, I am always amazed that people can't try a search first. I mean, do we really need a new thread each week about Colt vs. Bushmaster?
 
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I had an A.R.-15 in the army, moral of that story is make sure the LT cant hear you as you discuss his parentage!

This One Shot Naval type person reminds me of another from long ago. At an interservice function he wanders up and after a bit chimes in that he carries a M14 scoped sniper rifle.

Its all good fun on the interwebz, he can build his assault/sniper rifle. Can have a built to the max A.R.-10, but I had to laugh when he tries to throw the airsoft taunt.

Good times
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Birddog1911</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kahlendrrari</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm not trying to win any popularity contests here, but I'm fucking sick and tired of people wanting to be spponfed shit they can spend less time looking up than waiting for a reply..... where is that Xtranormal video, here it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evr_tP9cJWY&feature=player_embedded </div></div>

Yea, I am always amazed that people can't try a search first. I mean, do we really need a new thread each week about Colt vs. Bushmaster? </div></div>

Don't think its their lack of wanting to search, its just their all out stupidity of knowing how to search
 
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Whoever said that thisnguy cant tell thendiference between an m40 and an m24 just made me fall on the floor laughing.

Hey guys, what would y'all think if I sold my us optics sn-3 scope for a barska scope......I hear they are fantastic. Ha. No frigging way.

My suggestion...do some research...go watch some sons of guns or something on tv and get a little but of education before you jump on a forum like this and ask uneducated questions. Trust me....I learned the hard way....don't ask questions or run your mouth unless you are ready to back it up.

Btw fellas, i just got 200 rounds of Swa's 175grain Sierra match king...it looks so damn pretty in the box I almost don't want to shoot it all up. I screwed now, only the best ammo made will get it done for me now!
 
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Well my bullpup LR/assault/bonerific Voice of Gawd rifle can change out to a tennis ball hurler that can hit a deck of cards at 1000 yards.

Those of you in the know know who you are and of what I speak. The rest of you are just airsoft wannabees.

And you know who you are
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: notquiteright</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well my bullpup LR/assault/bonerific Voice of Gawd rifle can change out to a tennis ball hurler that can hit a deck of cards at 1000 yards.

Those of you in the know know who you are and of what I speak. The rest of you are just airsoft wannabees.

And you know who you are
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That must be the new 7.62 HBAR (Hide's Bullshit Artist's Rifle).
 
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Its not 7.62 as the real operators dont use old school calibers. This is a super secret black op only round that only us card shooters have clearance for.

But you didnt hear that from me-
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Adamxdavis</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Whoever said that thisnguy cant tell thendiference between an m40 and an m24 just made me fall on the floor laughing.

Hey guys, what would y'all think if I sold my us optics sn-3 scope for a barska scope......I hear they are fantastic. Ha. No frigging way.

My suggestion...do some research...go watch some sons of guns or something on tv and get a little but of education before you jump on a forum like this and ask uneducated questions. Trust me....I learned the hard way....don't ask questions or run your mouth unless you are ready to back it up.

Btw fellas, i just got 200 rounds of Swa's 175grain Sierra match king...it looks so damn pretty in the box I almost don't want to shoot it all up. I screwed now, only the best ammo made will get it done for me now! </div></div>
from what i have seen of sons o guns, that would be the last place i went for information... the history channel would deffinately be the place to go. Even gimicky shows like future weapons and mail call had more information about "real life" firearms, than sons of guns had about one shot fancies for morons.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: E3C3H3O3</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Speedgoat_ Junkie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You guys are brutal. </div></div>

Thats one of the reasons I love this place!!! </div></div>wow talk about bring ''nice '' 80 grit T.P. with hanging Hemorrhoids !!!please add salt !!
 
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thats funny...after the shit ass day I had I love the sarcasm on this site.

And I don't just shoot 7.62...I do have other weaponry available to me. I just like a good challenge. Steve Wonder could go but himself a cheytac .416 weapon system with handheld pda and hit a friggin quarter at 1500y with a hot barrel and a 10mpg cross wind...Im going for a bit more of a challenge by taking up the 1000y shot with a 7.62. Dont think I can hit it...well, I will tape it and stick it on Youtube for your viewing pleasure. I will either be the laughing stock of this site or some of might actually man up and admit I might have some actual formal training on how to shoot something.

Either way....it's gonna be fun wasting $2 dollar ammo every time I pull the trigger. Thanks to SWA...
 
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And the sons of guns comment was a joke bro...come on. Who needs a dual M16 set up that is cooled by a fish pump and copper tubing from Home Depot. All those guys need is a Dillin Aero Mini Gun....anything that shoots up to 6K rounds a min pretty much owns the field.