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So, why don't they offer the trigger body with an option for either a curved shoe, flat shoe, or legacy shoe (hopefully flat and curved)? It just bolts on right? Why then is it an extra $47 and I get a part I can't use?
If they do that the cost of the shoe would be incorporated into the price and those who don't need a shoe and will be using the shoe from their AT, AX, or AXMC may be unhappy that they're being forced to buy an extra part which they don't need. Adding an extra item to your shopping cart really shouldn't be that big of a deal.
I like the way they did it because now I can buy the trigger, and both shoes and see which I like.
Are you assuming that the trigger doesn't come with a shoe and that you're supposed to reuse your factory shoe? If that's the case, then I see your point. $395 get's you a trigger with no shoe. That's assuming that this trigger is designed with the same dovetail on the trigger bar that the factory AT, AX, or AXMC trigger. I can't verify it. I know my AWSM trigger is different. Why would you purchase the curved shoe if you already have one?
Just looking at the press release, I'm under the assumption that it does come with a shoe. Spec calls out shoe material. Pic shows a shoe. Description says that the shoe is adjustable. Doesn't say that the "shoe not included". The fact that the "optional" trigger shoe is only for the AW/AWM rifles, says to me that part is unique and not just flat or curved option that may be available to the AT, AX, or AXMC.
I don't have a problem ordering a part that I need specifically for my application. We don't have enough information at this point to determine which is which. It would be a shame if I have to purchase a $50 part that I can't use. What I was trying to say above is price the trigger at $345 and let the customer pick and choose which shoe they want/need to run.
Here's the rundown:
For AW/AWM models, a new trigger shoe is required. Flat or Curved.
I can understand this for those of us with older AWs that wanted to upgrade to the adjustable shoe, but I have never once thought any of my AIs had bad trigger pulls on them. the stadard AI trigger is adjustable plenty. Im guessing there was a demand since they spent time to make this, but really?
The standard AI Trigger is a good one and serves its purpose. For those of us who also compete with an AI platform, a lighter trigger is beneficial and useful. AI has gotten bigger in the PRS game, even sponsoring a match that sold out in an hour. So there is definitely a demand.
I agree, I have competed with them for 15 years on just about every system they have made, but im just with
RoterJager on this one. Though once all you beta testers start bragging on it, im sure ill have to get one also....
So part #22-085 on your website isn't really AW/AWM specific? It's just a way to remind us that we have to buy something? If I'm understanding you correctly, there are only two shoe's available (curved or flat) for the trigger.
Correct. We were working off our initial bit of info that was slightly ambiguous. It will all be corrected online.
There are two optional trigger shoes (curved, flat) that can be purchased separately, although not required for AX/AXMC models.
- The curved shoe has a smooth texture, and the shape is more shallow than a factory shoe (available for pre order).
- The flat shoe is not available for pre order yet, but will be soon.
For AW/AWM models, a new trigger shoe is required. Flat or Curved.
JUST CAME IN!
Any idea when we can expect the flat trigger shoes?
Everyone is busy shooting them instead. Lol. All seriousness, I haven’t met or talked to someone that didn’t like them.Not much internet chatter on these triggers, I noticed.
Is everyone happy with theirs?
My two triggers just came in today.
Thanks, guys.
These triggers do look good...
I also bought some curved trigger shoes, for the heck of it. Apparently there are left and right - handed trigger shoes, which suits my mirror - image AT308s!
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I don't have my Lyman Electronic Trigger Gauge yet, so I can't take any measurements. I do have a set of NRA weights and some washers (for weights less than 500 grams).
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I have some questions on my methodology in adjusting the individual stage weights, and the overall pull weight.
Let's say I want to set the Total Trigger Pull Weight at 500 grams, and I want the two stages at 250 grams each (50/50).
To do so, do I:
1. REMOVE SCREW #4 + SPRING + BALL (1st Stage Pull Weight) to isolate 2nd Stage Pull Weight Tension (now a Single Stage Trigger dependent on SCREW #5)
2. ADJUST SCREW #5 (2nd Stage Pull Weight, but now in effect a 1 - stage trigger) to get a trigger break at 250 grams
3. REINSTALL AND ADJUST SCREW #4 + SPRING + BALL to get a trigger break 500 grams (back to being a 2 - stage trigger)
Or, instead, do I:
1. ADJUST SCREW #4 to get a trigger break at 500 grams
2. ADJUST SCREW #5 afterwards to find that 250 gram 2nd stage wall.
I suspect getting that 50/50 distribution isn't as easy, given what I assume are different spring tensions and different tension curves. It may not be a purely additive affair, and I'll have to fiddle with both screws numerous times to hit the sweet spot.
Lastly, what's the recommended way of setting this up as a 1 - stage trigger?
Any recommendations would be appreciated...
Has anybody gotten a flat trigger sho yet?
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The standard triggers just feel so much more bombproof overall
@AIAW someone likes you