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AFAIK, bonding stopped once the AXSR came out. So any rifles after that. As well as I *think* the ELR rifle isn't bonded, but can't remember exactly on that.
why not a fan of axsr? you mean you like the axmc better? or just generally salty about lack of support for LHers? (which i totally understand)
<--- LH idiot
Here I was hoping they’d step up the AT line and make it factory available with a thumbhole stock. Instead they axe it completely. Sad for those of us who like the traditional AW style the best
Being these are replacing the AX 308 models I’ll assume the price will reflect that of a modernized AX and less of a price reflecting a modern ATX. Just going to guess instead of a price around $5.5-$6k it’ll be more like $8k. Especially the mil version if civilians can even get that
Really sucks the AT isn’t going to be an option for those who can’t drop over $5k on an AI. The px especially was always friendly to those people.
My AT just got more valuable to me. Now that prices will likely increase on the used market and accessories like the thumbhole will I’m sure go completely to the wayside for availability
Being these are replacing the AX 308 models I’ll assume the price will reflect that of a modernized AX and less of a price reflecting a modern ATX. Just going to guess instead of a price around $5.5-$6k it’ll be more like $8k. Especially the mil version if civilians can even get that
Really sucks the AT isn’t going to be an option for those who can’t drop over $5k on an AI. The px especially was always friendly to those people.
My AT just got more valuable to me. Now that prices will likely increase on the used market and accessories like the thumbhole will I’m sure go completely to the wayside for availability
The new action rail/cutout really stood out to me on the new XC... End of an era. I'm torn, these don't look terrible but nothing will ever match the sex appeal of an old AW in my eyes.
"Reduced operating effort"- Does that mean no more 12# bolt lift when you flex on the poors?
AI website lists choice of AI standard or comp trigger. I wonder if those are going to be factory options with different skus, or just another optional extra.
I like my AXMC better and also would never buy another AI LH rifle unless all of the options were available at the time of purchase. There is no support for LH shooters
fortunately, all 3 bolts and spare firing pin assemblies are all in stock in LH for axsr.
what about the axmc do you like better?
Probably that he doesn't have to spend $14k to replace it with an AXSR and LH bolts
It does surprise me how the new rifles are over $11k. But the AXMC have a hard time selling for $6800-$7000 on the used market. With spare bolts and what not
I wonder if the ATX will see a similar fate on the previous 1-3 gen models. Being there’s a much more modern replacement for it
I still think the AT will hold value. Being they’re more directly compared to the previous AW models than to current AI rifles. Been laughing at those $5000 used AT’s in the px. By the end of the year a thumbhole AT will likely be pricing up there.
To me the true AI rifle will always be an AW or AT thumbhole. Green in color
I wonder if the ATX will see a similar fate on the previous 1-3 gen models. Being there’s a much more modern replacement for it
I still think the AT will hold value. Being they’re more directly compared to the previous AW models than to current AI rifles. Been laughing at those $5000 used AT’s in the px. By the end of the year a thumbhole AT will likely be pricing up there.
To me the true AI rifle will always be an AW or AT thumbhole. Green in color
Lol, those are actually the things I like about the axsr.
I haven't been keeping up on used AXMC prices but the prices you quote may be accurate for a RH model. I have seen LH MCs with multiple bolts going for higher prices than that. If I saw an LH MC with the 300WM bolt body, I'd consider buying it for just that bolt and then sell everything else that I don't need
It always comes down to finding someone who wants what you have.
Ahh that makes sense. I actually like the trigger safety and grip better on the SR but I wish they could have kept epoxy bedding.
AI needs to do a AW throwback special limited edition of the AT with thumbhole skins as a one time deal next year. Make like 200 of them with cases tshirts etc.
I’m comparing AXMC to AXSR. Same as NikH would be upgrading to in order to get the LH options. Basically selling a used AXMC with bolts for $7k and cost is double that to upgrade to AXSR for the same needs. Just LH in his case
Both do the same thing with essentially only a few minor more modern features.
My comment was in regards to future prices on previous gen 1-3 ATX models. If they’ll share the same fate. Especially with the action update
I’m guessing the new ATXC will be priced a bit less than the AX 308 it’s replacing. About $7500-8k. But that’s only a guess
AT-XC
…can we consider this as the X’s Gen 6?
…can we consider this as the X’s Gen 6?
Can you buy a .473 bolt and have it machined to the magnum case head? Like guys are doing for AT/ATX/AX rifles to run WSM and 6.5 PRC
Yes but they aren't available either
It's a new action and new bolt, so probably doubtful they're interchangeable. The AXMC and AXSR do not work interchangeably.
I doubt it will be backwards compatible. Also, the bolt looks like the AXSR bolts. So, likely just a different way of pinning the bolt head in. I wouldn't expect any kind of quick change bolt head. Maybe slightly less labor intensive than the old bolts.....maybe.
I dunno man, AI's usually pretty good about doing that & making life easier on their customers... I'd imagine it'll be a simple swap & no doubt AT-X bolt availability will be better too!
Oh well I’ll just wait for an AT bolt to get opened up to .532-.535”.
I am unbothered by the bolt lift at this time.
I am unbothered by the bolt lift at this time.
Would'nt be a surprise. AI comp trigger jumped from $599 to $1050 here in Australia. AXSR not long ago jumped 3K also. Jooooke!!
Maraging steel is usually in reference to a very tough alloy like Aermet 100 etc.
AI uses maraging steel for the bolt head and breech ring. Even in the current AT action.
en.m.wikipedia.org
AI uses maraging steel for the bolt head and breech ring. Even in the current AT action.
Maraging steel - Wikipedia
Yeah I like my AT-X a lot, but anything over $5K I’m just not a buyer for.
Impact or ARC will probably get my future business for anything larger than an AT action can accommodate.
Impact or ARC will probably get my future business for anything larger than an AT action can accommodate.
wtf is a AXSR Mil? Wasn’t that the whole point of the AXSR? …for the Mil contract… 
wtf is a AXSR Mil? Wasn’t that the whole point of the AXSR? …for the Mil contract…
Where is the AXSR Mil? I’m only seeing the AT-XC and AT-XC Mil. Though I may have missed it.
They look the same
Maybe the option for m-lok makes it mil
So ai admits to heavy bolt lift
AI is fixing the bolt lift issue by including an 8" cheater bar (with a machined in AI logo) with every new AT-XC to slip over the bolt handle to make the felt bolt lift softer.
Left handed cheater bars for left handed actions are expected to be available by Q3 2025 at an estimated price of $799.
wtf is a AXSR Mil? Wasn’t that the whole point of the AXSR? …for the Mil contract…
Looks like AXSR Mil = you can get the MLOK forearm from us without having to snag it from EuroOptic whenever they get one.
I don’t get why they aren’t giving the option of a shorter handguard on the “new” AT-X
0 sense
And no 223 still?
AI if your reading this, you missed everything the end user has been asking for
0 sense
And no 223 still?
AI if your reading this, you missed everything the end user has been asking for
Guess it's time for me to actually send my AT bolt to lri for him to do his cloning magic.
Had no idea the atxc/mil had a different bolt setup.... why? It doesn't make sense from a manufacturing perspective or business perspective.
Had no idea the atxc/mil had a different bolt setup.... why? It doesn't make sense from a manufacturing perspective or business perspective.
Should’ve dropped the AT-X to PRS “production” pricing. The chassis still lacks factory provision for a thumb rest - just drill and tap a couple of holes for a 3D printed thumb rest that they could sell for another $95.
Means everyone's current AT-X is outdated and they need to buy the one with the new action. It's been a pretty successful model so far.
Yeah I guess it has been.
I’m not seeing anything with the “new” one that compels me to want to upgrade.
Mine still goes bang, and shoots the same cartridges. I don’t care if it’s now the poverty spec model.
I’m not seeing anything with the “new” one that compels me to want to upgrade.
Mine still goes bang, and shoots the same cartridges. I don’t care if it’s now the poverty spec model.
They look the same
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Maybe the option for m-lok makes it mil
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The funnier consideration is the how the AI webmaster referenced them in the link.....one says axsr and the other says copy-of-axsr
....create a new model by creating a copy of a current webpage, changing it up with some fonts and colors while using same photos, note comments on SH to get ideas of how to create value (maraging steel, m-lok options, etc), and timing it the same for SHOT 2024....brilliant!!!
...if you
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