The forms are often more about memes than experience. If your scope works for you then rock on.Sure but I'd at least like to understand the hateit's about a 50/50 love-hate for Leupold in the sniper community from what I've seen and experienced.
IMO Leupolds just don't look right on AI's. Having said that, my AW was originally meant to have a MK4 10x on it when it was RFQ by the FBI. I still have 3 other Leupolds on other rifles, but they are very specific to those builds. But generally when we see a AI in the wild, it's usually with a NF or a S&B or those crazy Germans running Steiner's on theirs. I really have tried to like the MK5 scopes, but for a little more money, you can really have a lot better scope. I was close to buying another for my MK12 Mod1, but looked through them again and I remember why I sold mine.Variety is the spice of live. Different eyes, different scopes. Else competition between companies wouldn't exist.
I have a lot of confidence in Chris Roberts with CR2 Solution who does technical advising for Leupold. As a man who spent many years as an Army Sniper then Army Sniper Instructor, I'd like to think that Leupold is getting all the right messages from what the community wants. It is for this reason that the Army still uses Leupolds today for their B4s. This said, my understanding is that the Nightforce ATACR can take more abuse. What that looks like, is beyond my knowledge... I haven't beat up any scopes recently. But no one wants to assault a scope like @Huskydriver seems to
The Mark 8 3.5-25x H58/59/T3 is when I saw Leupold mature. The MK5HD is just a revised Mark 8 with more refined materials. But yes: the eyebox is smaller than others, something that I hope they revise in future models.
None of this says anything against Nightforce or any other brands out there. But the Leupold MK5HD is the first scope I actually fell in love with all around, and their military discount makes them worth it. Retail vs retail? No, I'd rather get a low end S&B for the same price, or a Nightforce. So all said... I still don't understand the disgust or hate towards it. They've been great scopes and a great company to work with with amazing support when needed. And they really take care of the military/veteran community, let alone the B4 community.
18.5" 308 Proof CF - AXSR
25" 6GT Bartlein - AT-X
These make me happy.
Behold!
An AI AT Bag Rider arrived at my home today made by our very own @pfl338!
It’s so sexy it almost makes you ignore my Leupold MK5 scope!
-Stan
An AI AT Bag Rider arrived at my home today made by our very own @pfl338!
It’s so sexy it almost makes you ignore my Leupold MK5 scope!
-Stan
Behold!
An AI AT Bag Rider arrived at my home today made by our very own @pfl338!
It’s so sexy it almost makes you ignore my Leupold MK5 scope!
-Stan
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That laminate flooring?
What trigger blade are you using?Behold!
An AI AT Bag Rider arrived at my home today made by our very own @pfl338!
It’s so sexy it almost makes you ignore my Leupold MK5 scope!
-Stan
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The flat trigger is also made by @pfl338 and I like it better than the AI flat trigger due to its slight bend at the bottom which enables repeatability and its texture which contributes to the same.
-Stan
Bro we need real hardwood floors or Italian tile in this thread .....
You wanna attract Theis again?
Brah he lived in a double wide in Louisiana
Yeah and he sold sausages and cut grass too. But he’s attracted to shiny shit
Gen II Pro Series Turret Magnifier
Gen II Pro Series Turret Magnifier The MK Machining Gen II Pro Series Turret Magnifier has been designed to incorporate a new lens that allows for much more magnification. It still easily mounts to your scope tube and now provides a varying amount of magnification depending on placement...
www.mkmachining.com
A slight lower profile model, which I haven’t tried, is here:
-Stan
Best thing made for old eyes, MK Machining is were I got mine, no more reading glasses for the turret LOL
Yes with 223 bolts, 375ct conversions and I heard a 90 degree offering
No. The AT308s were discontinued effectively December 2023. Whatever is left on the market is all that is left.
Wonder why AI discontinued the AT? I would guess AT was the best selling model.
The AT-X and subsequent AT-XC is now their new .308 and 6.5 flagship, with the AXSR their large caliber rifle. They consolidated and modernized, regardless of the AT and AWs history
No. The rifles they are offering are designed for military and LE use. Check their website.
I wouldn't be surprised if they still did runs of the AT now and then, I've been told they will continue supporting the AT/AW with spares for the foreseeable future.
They could easily do small runs of full rifles for Mil/LEO customers, but I doubt the civilian market will see very many if any.
Sporting services had a run of AWMs a while back (338lm and 300wm) so AI obviously can/will do limited runs.
They could easily do small runs of full rifles for Mil/LEO customers, but I doubt the civilian market will see very many if any.
Sporting services had a run of AWMs a while back (338lm and 300wm) so AI obviously can/will do limited runs.
Dumping the AT seems like a stupid move. The whole point of the ATX was supposed to be for the prs market. I don't see the ATX filling the market spot for AT consumers.
I want an AWSM with a quick - detach barrel and the ability to accept longer .338 LM rounds.
And, oh - a thumbhole folding stock.
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... This isn't news to anyone right? Accuracy International put out a press release mid January 2024 when they announced the AT-XC that the AT308 and AX308 would be discontinued. Their main rifles are now the AT-XC, AXSR Multi-Caliber (based on the ASR and it's military contract competition) and AX ELR. It has also been confirmed that the AW, AT and AXSA will continue to receive support with parts and service as all are still being used across the globe with various units. But, they will no longer be sold directly. Rumors of the AT308 still being sold to LE exist, but is uncomfirmed. So while I'm 99% sure I'm sharing information already known, here's all the briefs and details for the 1% that maybe haven't "checked out the latest" in the last year, or longer... But yes: the AT-X MIL, as they are saying it, replaces both the AT308 and AX308 in their catalog lineup.
@tomirwin did I miss any details?
@tomirwin did I miss any details?
I was waiting for that sentence to end with pr2 mil but it ended up with disappointment.If you can find me a reticle that is as easy for my broke-ass eyes to see as the .1 MRAD thick Illuminated TMR I am open to other options.
-Stan
P.S. As a motivated dabbler at most, the Leupold MK5 will never be the thing holding me back.
I like mk5s except the insufferable windage turrets
Depends on how big of a boy you are bubbaIf it Arken, it ain’t right.
As for optics… every fucking scope over 2k needs these damn tool-less TT turrets. They’re so damn nice. Makes me almost forget I ever had an ATACR…
Then again, make an Arken with TT turrets and it’s game over! Arken would dominate the market!!!!
Side Question:
Is it wrong to buy an AT-X with a 5-25 TT as a first bolt rifle for my 9yr old? Or does it need to be an Areo with an Arken?
Getting a taste of Grey Poupon, Lobster Tail and Filet Mignon right out the womb?
Wrong... no... but he'll never have money after he realizes everything else sucks immediately
It is sweet, for sure. When it gets a little warmer, I am taking it out to try it...can't waitBehold!
An AI AT Bag Rider arrived at my home today made by our very own @pfl338!
It’s so sexy it almost makes you ignore my Leupold MK5 scope!
-Stan
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Hey anything that keeps people shooting and enjoying this stuff longer, I am a fan
Flat Trigger shoe AX,AXT,AXMC,AXSR ONLY FITS BOLT ACTION RIFLES by AI | eBay
Flat Trigger shoe for Accuracy International Bolt Action Rifles. Machined from 6061 T6 Aluminum bar. Made in the USA.
www.ebay.com
Having owned both, this one made by @pfl338 is better than the AI factory one IMO due to the slight hook at the bottom and the texture.
-Stan
AwesomeFlat Trigger shoe AX,AXT,AXMC,AXSR ONLY FITS BOLT ACTION RIFLES by AI | eBay
Flat Trigger shoe for Accuracy International Bolt Action Rifles. Machined from 6061 T6 Aluminum bar. Made in the USA.www.ebay.com
Having owned both, this one made by @pfl338 is better than the AI factory one IMO due to the slight hook at the bottom and the texture.
-Stan
thanks for the suggestion! Will be contacting pfl338 soonI’ve been saying for years that I’d have happily purchased an “ATMC”, however, AI had no interest in producing it so I wound up getting a TRG-42 instead. I’d still consider selling the TRG for an “ATMC”, however, I’m sure the price would be insanely high compared to what the AT went for and what the AXSR now goes for.
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I'm not entirely sure Accuracy International understands just how loved the AW and AT308 are. But, they have to look at their own sales numbers. All said, I can only hope they do consider doing special runs every year or the likes so that younger generations can get their hands on this famed rifle.
AI went towards the prs crowd. Which in my opinion, being a big AI fan, was a poor choice. There’s to many custom actions, triggers, caliber etc for their design to truly shine.
If I was running prs I’d build a rifle tailored to the sport.
I love my AI’s but it’s not going to be my first choice for a comp gun
AI is like the Barrett. It’s a military grade sniper rifle. There’s nobody running Barrett’s in prs. Or at least you don’t see it. Because they don’t belong there
If I was running prs I’d build a rifle tailored to the sport.
I love my AI’s but it’s not going to be my first choice for a comp gun
AI is like the Barrett. It’s a military grade sniper rifle. There’s nobody running Barrett’s in prs. Or at least you don’t see it. Because they don’t belong there
Yes , BUT . . . .
Is PRS crowd is ahead of the .mil guys on tools and gear? I haven't been in either game, but from what it looks like PRS is trickling out to .mil guns i.e. arca rails, tripods and positional shooting.
So by AI playing in that field it's kinda giving them a head start on the next contract solicitation? Like boarder patrol and the AT-XC.
We fired this ammo last weekend, not bad accuracy for armor piercing.
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I’m probably wrong, but it looked like the ATX was in the hands of military personnel before the ATX was introduced to the citizen shooter, or is that time line backwards?
Looking at the AX, AT, and AT-X side by side, there is really nothing the AT/AX do that the AT-X doesn't do better.
As much as I love the look of a AW/thumbhole AT, the AT-X is just better.
However, I don't see any reason why AI couldn't take the AT and make a best of both world rifle.
Slim down the height of the forend, remove the tapered section in in front of the magwell, and build in a barricade stop (basically like a KRG forend on a TRG 22). Maybe make the forend a little longer too.
But would this really be better than an AT-X? Look cooler for sure, but not sure if better.
