Accuracy International Picture Thread

[hafejd30]

AI went towards the prs crowd. Which in my opinion, being a big AI fan, was a poor choice. There’s to many custom actions, triggers, caliber etc for their design to truly shine.

If I was running prs I’d build a rifle tailored to the sport.

I love my AI’s but it’s not going to be my first choice for a comp gun

AI is like the Barrett. It’s a military grade sniper rifle. There’s nobody running Barrett’s in prs. Or at least you don’t see it. Because they don’t belong there

 

[jbuck88]

AI went towards the prs crowd. Which in my opinion, being a big AI fan, was a poor choice. There’s to many custom actions, triggers, caliber etc for their design to truly shine.

If I was running prs I’d build a rifle tailored to the sport.

I love my AI’s but it’s not going to be my first choice for a comp gun

AI is like the Barrett. It’s a military grade sniper rifle. There’s nobody running Barrett’s in prs. Or at least you don’t see it. Because they don’t belong there

Yes , BUT . . . .

Is PRS crowd is ahead of the .mil guys on tools and gear? I haven't been in either game, but from what it looks like PRS is trickling out to .mil guns i.e. arca rails, tripods and positional shooting.

So by AI playing in that field it's kinda giving them a head start on the next contract solicitation? Like boarder patrol and the AT-XC.

 

[Silvan]

All set!
AWM in 300WM / 338LM / 300NM

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We fired this ammo last weekend, not bad accuracy for armor piercing.

 

[SFree]

Yes , BUT . . . .

Is PRS crowd is ahead of the .mil guys on tools and gear? I haven't been in either game, but from what it looks like PRS is trickling out to .mil guns i.e. arca rails, tripods and positional shooting.

So by AI playing in that field it's kinda giving them a head start on the next contract solicitation? Like boarder patrol and the AT-XC.

I’m probably wrong, but it looked like the ATX was in the hands of military personnel before the ATX was introduced to the citizen shooter, or is that time line backwards?

 

[beetroot]

Yes , BUT . . . .

Is PRS crowd is ahead of the .mil guys on tools and gear? I haven't been in either game, but from what it looks like PRS is trickling out to .mil guns i.e. arca rails, tripods and positional shooting.

So by AI playing in that field it's kinda giving them a head start on the next contract solicitation? Like boarder patrol and the AT-XC.

Looking at the AX, AT, and AT-X side by side, there is really nothing the AT/AX do that the AT-X doesn't do better.
As much as I love the look of a AW/thumbhole AT, the AT-X is just better.

However, I don't see any reason why AI couldn't take the AT and make a best of both world rifle.
Slim down the height of the forend, remove the tapered section in in front of the magwell, and build in a barricade stop (basically like a KRG forend on a TRG 22). Maybe make the forend a little longer too.

But would this really be better than an AT-X? Look cooler for sure, but not sure if better.

 

[Tex68w]

The height over bore of the legacy models is their biggest drawback.

 

[clefairy]

I’m probably wrong, but it looked like the ATX was in the hands of military personnel before the ATX was introduced to the citizen shooter, or is that time line backwards?

Which mil hands did it hit first?

 

[taliv]

It’s not the thumbhole that makes it better. It’s that holding plastic or fiberglass is way more comfortable than metal because of specific heat. Holding my axsr when it’s freezing just sucks the heat right out.

 

[HKSniper11B]

Which mil hands did it hit first?

The one unit I saw using it was with Special Operations. [REF: DVIDS]

I’m probably wrong, but it looked like the ATX was in the hands of military personnel before the ATX was introduced to the citizen shooter, or is that time line backwards?

Yes, it was being tested. Although the original AT-X was announced and showcased at SHOT Show in early 2021.

"A competitor in the United States Army Special Operations Command (USASOC) International Sniper Competition, ejects a spent shell casing while firing a rifle [Accuracy International AT-X] at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, March 22, 2021. Fifteen teams competed in the the 12th annual USASOC International Sniper Competition where instructors from the United States Army John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School designed a series of events that challenged the two-person teams’ ability to work together, firing range, speed and accuracy in varied types of environments. (U.S. Army photo by K. Kassens)"

 

[hafejd30]

Yes , BUT . . . .

Is PRS crowd is ahead of the .mil guys on tools and gear? I haven't been in either game, but from what it looks like PRS is trickling out to .mil guns i.e. arca rails, tripods and positional shooting.

So by AI playing in that field it's kinda giving them a head start on the next contract solicitation? Like boarder patrol and the AT-XC.

I should clarify. This is only my opinion.

It’s not a mistake to go towards that crowd. I think it was a mistake to abandon legacy models.

You see a ton of guys here asking about buying a rifle setup for prs. For many especially starting out or trying the sport a $6500 ATXC is a bit of a bite into their wallet for gear. Considering what you need to be competitive in the sport

For me if I was shooting PRS I wouldn’t use a ATX/ATXC. Simply for the fact that I can set up a fully competitive rifle for half of what an ATXC cost and top it with a ZCO for the same money

But my reason most of all is aftermarket support. I’ve used lots of chassis/stocks and I want the ability to buy and try from the px here to find what I like or switch things up if I want.

The chassis options are endless. Accessories are endless and much cheaper for something like an mdt platform then they are a AI.

You also have the ability to swap bolt heads for not much money on these other actions. You can tune triggers to make the action super smooth etc

You can add lots to something like an ATXC. But overall if you’re not happy with the chassis or want to swap to a stock etc you’re stuck with what you have.

There’s already guys selling their ATXC here because they don’t feel it offers anything over their current ATX models. But if you want to buy a new AI the $6500 ATXC is your starter rifle. I don’t know many guys who are buying those compared to guys who wanted an AI for whatever reason and end up buying an AT and being very happy with the purchase

By going all in on the ATXC you took out the average gun guys ability to afford one

Edit:

Current border patrol is a fucking joke. So yay to AI for landing that contract. Those rifles were never intended to be used for anything other than some flexing during target practice.

The new administration will change that. Let’s see if they choose the ATXC to fulfill that spot

 

[Firestarter123]

I just find it crazy that I have 2 new complete CDG actions sitting in my safe that cost less each than a spare complete bolt assembly for my AT’s.

There used to be a good value proposition in getting an AE or AT (especially used) compared to a custom rifle but those days are over now when the base AI rifle starts at $6500 and the magnum capable rifle is $12000.

I’ll believe there’ll be magnum bolts for the AT-XC when I can actually buy one as I learned my lesson by believing AI when they said the AT-X (and by extension the AT) would have them available which never happened.

 

[hafejd30]

There used to be a good value proposition in getting an AE or AT (especially used) compared to a custom rifle but those days are over now when the base AI rifle starts at $6500 and the magnum capable rifle is $12000.

This is the part that I’m preaching above.

AT models let the common folk afford an AI. In recent months those have become more scarce to find. When you do find one it seems they’re creeping up to around $4000 in the used market since discontinuation.

Which again makes it harder for guys to get into AI’s who don’t have a ton of $$ to spend

 

[Tex68w]

I have an AT-XC and I have little faith in ever seeing a magnum bolt for it which blows. If I can get a second bolt assembly for it I’ll send one out to get opened up.

 

[Firestarter123]

This is the part that I’m preaching above.

AT models let the common folk afford an AI. In recent months those have become more scarce to find. When you do find one it seems they’re creeping up to around $4000 in the used market since discontinuation.

Which again makes it harder for guys to get into AI’s who don’t have a ton of $$ to spend

Exactly.

Last year I bought a 2014 AT 2.0 w/ LFP for $3000 shipped off of the PX as it was a good deal and I use it as my 308Win rifle with my 2015 w/ SFP being my 260Rem rifle.

If I was new and shopping today there’s no way I’d be buying the AT-XC due to it being $6500 plus it’s just not something I want.

I don’t shoot competitions but even if I decided to I’d just pull a CDG action out of the safe and build a rifle on that for half the cost of the AT-XC while at the same time having it bebetter suited to competition simply due to it being easier and cheaper to customize the way I want it while also actually being able to easily get parts for it.

 

[Criver600]

Less whining, more shooting. 22lr 400 yards

 

[Firestarter123]

Less whining, more shooting. 22lr 400 yards
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Less poser AI’s and more real AI’s

 

[HD1911]

Took her out to 1,525y this afternoon. Wind really kicked my ass, but had a great time and learned from it.

 

[Tex68w]

15+ MPH winds at 1000 made things sporty today. Very disappointed in recent LOT Hornady ELD-M's, ES of 50+ makes it hard to stay consistent at distance.

 

[Takashi]

Took her out to 1,525y this afternoon. Wind really kicked my ass, but had a great time and learned from it.

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What sling swivel is this? Do regular keymod accessories fit keyslot?

 

[HD1911]

What sling swivel is this? Do regular keymod accessories fit keyslot?

Accuracy International Anti-Rotation QD Sling Mount for AX Model

The Anti-Rotation QD Sling Mount provides a secure, twist-free attachment point for push-button QD slings and accessories. It is compatible with all factory pre-14’ and post-14’ AX, AX338, AXMC, and AX-AICS forends.

www.anarchyoutdoors.com

 

[Tex68w]

Took her out to 1,525y this afternoon. Wind really kicked my ass, but had a great time and learned from it.

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Which Garmin Xero ARCA mount are you using and did it include the flip open screen protector? I imagine that the AX Sling mount would work on the AT-X/AT-XC as well?

 

[HD1911]

Which Garmin Xero ARCA mount are you using and did it include the flip open screen protector? I imagine that the AX Sling mount would work on the AT-X/AT-XC as well?

I’m using the Gray Ops CNC QD mount (full kit option) and Bump Cover. I also bought the little picatinny rail section that attaches to the Garmin factory tripod so that you can bounce the Garmin Xero back and forth between the arca mount and tripod with ease and speed.

Correct, that sling mount will work on any of our AI keyslots. The screws that you choose with that QD sling mount are specific, based on pre-2014 and 2014+, so pay attention to that.

Garmin Xero QD Mount

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Garmin Xero Bump Cover

The ONLY way to protect your Garmin Xero Chronograph! Introducing the Gray Ops Garmin Xero Bump Cover Made from a strong, flexible plastic to withstand all of the punishment a trip in your pack will deliver. Easy slip on design with a removable front cover. Shipping with the NEW Crush Proof...

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Garmin Tripod Picatinny Rail

CLICK HERE TO ADD A GARMIN XERO C1 CHRONOGRAPH TO YOUR ORDER PURPOSE The Gray Ops Garmin Picatinny Tripod Rail was designed for shooters to utilize the Garmin Tripod along with our Garmin Mount making our system the most versatile on the market. FEATURES 1/4x20 Threads for easy mounting to the...

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[DKN83]

 

[wichitaguns]

The new prices on the AI make me wish I had bought an AE MKiii and an AT. The AT was great great.

 

[Firestarter123]

The new prices on the AI make me wish I had bought an AE MKiii and an AT. The AT was great great.

Having had both there’s no reason whatsoever to get an AE if getting an AT is an option.

The AW magazines alone are worth the extra cost. I dislike all rifles now that don’t have double stack double feed magazines that I can load through the chamber including my TRG-42.

 

[wichitaguns]

Having had both there’s no reason whatsoever to get an AE if getting an AT is an option.

The AW magazines alone are worth the extra cost. I dislike all rifles now that don’t have double stack double feed magazines that I can load through the chamber including my TRG-42.

Fair point, follow on question. Hypothetically, would you trade an AE for and AT? What would the cost difference point be worth it for you?

 

[Firestarter123]

Fair point, follow on question. Hypothetically, would you trade an AE for and AT? What would the cost difference point be worth it for you?

I actually did just that back in 2016 and it was worth every penny to me mainly because of how much better the AW magazines are than the AICS magazines.

The quick change barrel is also nice, however, I don’t change them frequently so it’s not a huge factor to me. The bonded action and ability to change barrels without removing the action from the chassis though is a big plus to me of the AT over the AE.

Also, if your AE is a MKI or MKII getting the 3-position safety of the AT is a net positive.

Flush cups, side rails, and NV rail options on the AT are also nice upgrades over the AE.

ETA: I believe I paid $1650 to go from the AE MKIII to the AT at the time when I traded my rifle to MHSA.

 

[Kiba]

The new prices on the AI make me wish I had bought an AE MKiii and an AT. The AT was great great.

Pepperidge Farm remembers when ATs without barrels were going for under $3k soon after the ATX came out and everyone was dumping their "obsolete" ATs for the new hotness...

Hindsight being 20/20 (or even 20/10) while I still really like my 2x AX308s and 1x AXMC I should never have sold my 2x ATs with both pistol grip and thumbhole stock sides to fund the AXs... I had 2x of every color stock side offered in both thumbhole and pistol grip flavors.

Looking back I can't believe I sold both ATs and gave up the classic AW/AT thumbhole look, I should have only bought 1x AX and kept 1x AT, and sometimes I think I should have just kept the 2x ATs and skipped the 2x AX308s and only picked up the AXMC.

While the idea of swapping one or both of my AX308s into a Vision chassis with a thumbhole buttstock is still very tempting to get some more modern chassis geometry but keep the classic thumbhole look, it would be quite difficult now as AT folder buttstocks are pretty hard to get as we're well past the brief period in time where lots of people here were dumping their AT folding buttstocks cheap after swapping out to AX buttstocks.

Fair point, follow on question. Hypothetically, would you trade an AE for and AT? What would the cost difference point be worth it for you?

I started with 1x AE Mk3 I bought new from Mile High, then picked up a second AE Mk3 I bought used. Both AEs shot amazing but I sold both several years later for 2x ATs just because I wanted AW mags after trying some. If you're not swapping barrels frequently the 2x major differences frrom the AE to the AT are the small firing pin on the 2015+ AT and AW mags, plus the chassis being a little newer with flush cups vs HK hooks. IMO upgrading from the AE to AT was worth it just for the AW mags, they're awesome, and the small firing pin was a bonus even though I never had issues with cratered or pierced primers even with the large firing pins in my AEs.

Personally, I'm someone that hates having to rezero scopes and swap barrels because it seemed like every time I took the rifle out of the safe I wanted to use the barrel/caliber that was not on it at the moment, and because of that I can take or leave the quick change barrel feature. I'd rather have mutiple rifles in different calibers that are always ready to go even though that costs a bunch more money than a single rifle with multiple barrels you swap frequently. IMO the old torqued to 100 lb-ft barrel interface of the AE and AW is a better and more secure interface than the current quick change barrel system of the AT/AX/ATX/AXSR. I experimented with torquing the barrels on my ATs to 50 lb-ft before tightening the quicklock screw (didn't want to go with the full 100 lb-ft torque spec for the AE/AW actions with the H cut for the quick change feature in the AT action) and I did notice slightly better cold bore consistency as well as smaller groups when smacking the barrel with a rubber mallet between every shot compared to the barrel snapped on hand tight then torquing the quick lock screw, but that's a very limited test with very limited data points. AI obviously has faith in the quicklock system (as well as it being a contract requirement for a couple of programs they submitted rifles for.)

Back when I sold my AEs and upgraded to ATs I think it cost me about $600 per rifle to sell the AE and get into the AT. To me that was worth it. It's going to cost more than $600 to upgrade today though.

 

[wichitaguns]

Thanks for the detailed responses.
I just picked up an AX338 which I believe shares the magazines with the newer AXMC?
Last I checked the going price for a used AT was about 3500 . But they are getting pretty hard to find.
The AE shoots so dang will though, but the dual stack AW mags are tempting.

 

[Edsel]

I started with 1x AE Mk3 I bought new from Mile High…

There was a time when Mile High would call you to say, “…your lefty’s here!”

Now, they’d politely take your name and number - but nothing ever follows.

 

[tevans0707]

Had a good time getting the PRS gun ready for the upcoming season

 

[Hennig]

I pray to Gaben you fix that mismatch panel

 

[wichitaguns]

Had a good time getting the PRS gun ready for the upcoming season

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Nice. How are you liking the Steiner. I have one my AE

 

[tevans0707]

I pray to Gaben you fix that mismatch panel

Haha yeah it does look god awful but it's going to be covered with paint here pretty soon

Nice. How are you liking the Steiner. I have one my AE

Its a decent scope and gets the job done, but I will hopefully be replacing it soon.

 

[beetroot]

Haha yeah it does look god awful but it's going to be covered with paint here pretty soon

Paint it any colour you like, so long as it's green.

How much does the rifle weigh as pictured? The barrel doesn't look super fat, but balance looks good.

 

[tevans0707]

Paint it any colour you like, so long as it's green.

How much does the rifle weigh as pictured? The barrel doesn't look super fat, but balance looks good.

I'll have to report back on the weight, I don't know it off the top of my head. The barrel is just a factory 6.5 barrel. It does really well with the 2 sets of weights up front, but I'm hoping to be able to remove one set after I switch to a Proof comp contour.

 

[tevans0707]

Paint it any colour you like, so long as it's green.

How much does the rifle weigh as pictured? The barrel doesn't look super fat, but balance looks good.

Just weighed it at 24lbs with bipod and loaded mag

 

[rbutcher]

Just weighed it at 24lbs with bipod and loaded mag

Why’s your gun so featherweight?

 

[SFree]

Just weighed it at 24lbs with bipod and loaded mag

I’d bulge a disc if mine was that heavy…

 

[beetroot]

Just weighed it at 24lbs with bipod and loaded mag

I'm guessing the full length internal forend weights?

Coul easily go heavier with a fatter barrel and some steel butt spacers of you felt the need. 24lb is a good spot to be in.

 

[FUNCTIONAL]

I remember a day in competition people gave me shit because my gun was naturally 18lbs. "That's too heavy you should change your barrel contour".....

 

[stanley_white]

I remember a day in competition people gave me shit because my gun was naturally 18lbs. "That's too heavy you should change your barrel contour".....

Anything I carry that goes bang and is 18lbs or more is belt fed.

-Stan

 

[tevans0707]

I'm guessing the full length internal forend weights?

Coul easily go heavier with a fatter barrel and some steel butt spacers of you felt the need. 24lb is a good spot to be in.

The comp contour will definitely add some weight to it but I'll also probably remove some of the fore-end weights when it comes time. When I first started PRS my rifle (JAE chassis with a Tikka action, not my AI) was pushing 30lbs, I'm not about that life anymore haha But yes I do have the full-length weight up front which might have to be moved around to play with the balance.

 

[FUNCTIONAL]

Anything I carry that goes bang and is 18lbs or more is belt fed.

-Stan

The rifle at the time is a m40a5 suppressed. I assure you I'm not lugging that beast anywhere.

 

[Mile High Shooting]

There was a time when Mile High would call you to say, “…your lefty’s here!”

Now, they’d politely take your name and number - but nothing ever follows.

It really depends on who you get when you call. Some of the rifles just are not available anymore. If you ever have a question you can ask me and I will just ask the owner directly ( If I do not already know ).

Kent

 

[Edsel]

It really depends on who you get when you call. Some of the rifles just are not available anymore. If you ever have a question you can ask me and I will just ask the owner directly ( If I do not already know ).

Kent

Not just that, Kent.

Simple inquiries - like, can you order stock sides for the old AT rifles, etc.

Went through this routine with three separate people six months ago for the above - very polite, volunteered my number, but nothing came of it.

Same issue with bolt bodies, twice last year.

 

[Mile High Shooting]

Not just that, Kent.

Simple inquiries - like, can you order stock sides for the old AT rifles, etc.

Went through this routine with three separate people six months ago for the above - very polite, volunteered my number, but nothing came of it.

Same issue with bolt bodies, twice last year.

Chances are in every case they all came to me for the info and then either forgot to call back or did not want to deliver bad news. That is part of the reason I am posting on here now. I have access to all that info and I give enough of a **** that I do want to help folks.

Sometimes the answer is also we just do not know because we have not been given the info from the manufacturer. Getting things for ATs for example has gotten progressively harder over time. You can always call me directly. If I do not already know the answer I will walk into Dianns office and try to get the most up to date info possible.

With a lot of the civilian legacy rifles like the AT many of the people who work here have not seen one before because they were all sold before they started. I am here to try to help. PM for my phone #. I am not sure if they want me just throwing it out there.

Kent

 

[Edsel]

Chances are in every case they all came to me for the info and then either forgot to call back or did not want to deliver bad news. That is part of the reason I am posting on here now. I have access to all that info and I give enough of a **** that I do want to help folks.

Sometimes the answer is also we just do not know because we have not been given the info from the manufacturer. Getting things for ATs for example has gotten progressively harder over time. You can always call me directly. If I do not already know the answer I will walk into Dianns office and try to get the most up to date info possible.

With a lot of the civilian legacy rifles like the AT many of the people who work here have not seen one before because they were all sold before they started. I am here to try to help. PM for my phone #. I am not sure if they want me just throwing it out there.

Kent

PM sent, thanks.

 

[rbutcher]

Kent is the man. He’s helped me a lot over the years. Even when my gun sat in the hurricane water at a UPS hub for a week. He’ll probably know who I am just by saying that lol.

 

[Mile High Shooting]

Kent is the man. He’s helped me a lot over the years. Even when my gun sat in the hurricane water at a UPS hub for a week. He’ll probably know who I am just by saying that lol.

LOL how is the AT treating you? Yours may be the last skins I ever see. Those AT skins are hard to get now.