Early reports "11 people down" not sure on details, this is very close to home and we were driving by this afternoon on our way home from the mid-coast.
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Suicide.....have to clarify. Yep, scary and sad. Deeper than sad.The new death by cop, sad, and scary.
It is and gets to the point where you can't avoid them(GFZ) if you want to enjoy life with your family and not lock yourself behind closed doors.Another Gun Free Zone
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Edited above, spot on.Suicide.....have to clarify. Yep, scary and sad. Deeper than sad.
It is and gets to the point where you can't avoid them(GFZ) if you want to enjoy life with your family and not lock yourself behind closed doors.
The police were on him very quickly, and had him down. The news through 10pm was still talking about a second shooter.
We were driving back from Slovang and entertained the idea of stopping for dinner. We drove by there about an hour before the shooting started.Close to home I see....I grew up in San Diego, so I feel this that much more myself.
They did...All that gun control in Cali and someone had the nerve to shoot?<SMH>
Best wishes to the fallen and may the cops kill the perp.
In agreement.There will always bullies and bullying, particularly in adolescents.
It's human programming carried over from our primitive roots.
It's in the DNA, as it is with very other animal on the planet, to establish hierarchy and a pecking order.
It's not something that can be instructed out of hormone-filled teenagers and young adults.
The problem is that now that a culture of coddling and protection has been fostered, the weak are convinced that they are entitled to equal status. So when the hot girl turns away the dork and chooses the alpha male, the dork feels like the culture has failed them and they must retaliate.
That's not all of it, of course.
medications, videos like the one above, video games, and much more all contribute to the powder keg.
If the adults would let the kids settle their little skirmishes instead of stepping in at every sideways glance or derogatory comment, then these matters would settle themselves. The way they have for thousands of years.
Guess the shooter missed that memo.Another Gun Free Zone
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It is and gets to the point where you can't avoid them(GFZ) if you want to enjoy life with your family and not lock yourself behind closed doors.
Well, to say it is right wing nationalist (skin heads) is not entirely true, IMHO... Many of the shooting have been by shooters with Islamic backgrounds... But, yes, many are young men, teens without any discernible right wing leanings... Young men, video games, and the violent popular culture seem to be common threads for them... It is notable that almost all, or all of these mass shootings take place in "Gun Free Zones"...Places where guns are not allowed...THAT is why I like my state...It is NOT a gun free zone and I pack 24/7...No mass shooting here...LolMaybe it's just me... I see a trend that sticks out that is just hard for me to believe though. Alot (not all) of recent shooters have been average white males. Some have had "memoirs" or "manifestos" found that had to do with their right leaning views or of white supremacy. This one especially, according to multiple news sources, he referenced "White is Might". According to the link https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/29/us/gilroy-california-food-festival-shooting-monday/index.html the shooter made an Instagram account 4 days ago (really odd to be making an account which seems just for the purpose of proof of his views) which he comments on the festival. Almost all of the shooters end up dead, so there is no way to question the persons motives, only proof of comments on the internet. I'm not from the United States, so I can't pretend I know what it's like down there aside from the short time I've spent visiting family. Is there that big of a problem that white supremacists are shooting random people up at such high frequency, or is there something bigger at play here, where these shootings are being orchestrated as a way to continue to eat away at second amendment rights, with the suspect also being the exact demographic getting the most hate from everyone: straight white conservative males. I hope I don't sound too crazy here... Just something I wonder when almost every time these things happen, it's the same identity
And then, if something does happen, watch all you assets disappear and not have to worry about room and board...Or you can just ignore unconstitutional laws and regulations and go about your business wherever you please.
And then, if something does happen, watch all you assets disappear and not have to worry about room and board...
Maybe it's just me... I see a trend that sticks out that is just hard for me to believe though. Alot (not all) of recent shooters have been average white males. Some have had "memoirs" or "manifestos" found that had to do with their right leaning views or of white supremacy. This one especially, according to multiple news sources, he referenced "White is Might". According to the link https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/29/us/gilroy-california-food-festival-shooting-monday/index.html the shooter made an Instagram account 4 days ago (really odd to be making an account which seems just for the purpose of proof of his views) which he comments on the festival. Almost all of the shooters end up dead, so there is no way to question the persons motives, only proof of comments on the internet. I'm not from the United States, so I can't pretend I know what it's like down there aside from the short time I've spent visiting family. Is there that big of a problem that white supremacists are shooting random people up at such high frequency, or is there something bigger at play here, where these shootings are being orchestrated as a way to continue to eat away at second amendment rights, with the suspect also being the exact demographic getting the most hate from everyone: straight white conservative males. I hope I don't sound too crazy here... Just something I wonder when almost every time these things happen, it's the same identity
Maybe it's just me... I see a trend that sticks out that is just hard for me to believe though. Alot (not all) of recent shooters have been average white males. Some have had "memoirs" or "manifestos" found that had to do with their right leaning views or of white supremacy. This one especially, according to multiple news sources, he referenced "White is Might". According to the link https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/29/us/gilroy-california-food-festival-shooting-monday/index.html the shooter made an Instagram account 4 days ago (really odd to be making an account which seems just for the purpose of proof of his views) which he comments on the festival. Almost all of the shooters end up dead, so there is no way to question the persons motives, only proof of comments on the internet. I'm not from the United States, so I can't pretend I know what it's like down there aside from the short time I've spent visiting family. Is there that big of a problem that white supremacists are shooting random people up at such high frequency, or is there something bigger at play here, where these shootings are being orchestrated as a way to continue to eat away at second amendment rights, with the suspect also being the exact demographic getting the most hate from everyone: straight white conservative males. I hope I don't sound too crazy here... Just something I wonder when almost every time these things happen, it's the same identity
I don't disagree.IF something happens to someone else in one of those places, I go the other way. IF something happens to me, there are legal strategies to deal with the outcome.
Many of you assume a sign saying no guns here means "felony". It might or it might not, depending on where you are.
Or you can be a good little sheep.
Metal detectors, kind of a problem. Easy enough to make a shank out of UHMW tho.I don't disagree.
You are eliminating all sporting events, concerts, festivals like this that have metal detectors, bag searches etc. You make a choice to not attend these or disarm neither is a good choice.
Why were you camping in the left lane? ?Just yesterday I was in the far left lane of a highway and a moron blew by me on the shoulder at about 90 mph. I could see the rage in his face.
I think a lot of it comes down to stress. Ours is a stress filled country. Everybody is after the almighty $$$. And if you dont have them youre stressed to just get enough to survive.I see it on the highways, everybody is in a massive hurry and its "Get the fuck out of my way." Just yesterday I was in the far left lane of a highway and a moron blew by me on the shoulder at about 90 mph. I could see the rage in his face.
Parents in such a hurry they dont have time to spend with the kids so the kids make it up as they go along. Stress.
In high school this senior used to bully me. I asked my dad what to do and he said fight him. so I called him out to the football field after school. He didnt show but left me alone after that. good parenting.
And permissiveness. Anything goes so nobody, expecially the young, have reasonable boundaries...and that causes...stress.
I think a lot of it comes down to stress. Ours is a stress filled country. Everybody is after the almighty $$$. And if you dont have them youre stressed to just get enough to survive.I see it on the highways, everybody is in a massive hurry and its "Get the fuck out of my way." Just yesterday I was in the far left lane of a highway and a moron blew by me on the shoulder at about 90 mph. I could see the rage in his face.
Parents in such a hurry they dont have time to spend with the kids so the kids make it up as they go along. Stress.
In high school this senior used to bully me. I asked my dad what to do and he said fight him. so I called him out to the football field after school. He didnt show but left me alone after that. good parenting.
And permissiveness. Anything goes so nobody, expecially the young, have reasonable boundaries...and that causes...stress.
Left lane is for passing-if you're not passing another vehicle get in the right lane. Super simple stuff.
Early reports "11 people down" not sure on details, this is very close to home and we were driving by this afternoon on our way home from the mid-coast.
That was my third attempt, the first two I chickened out!Dont make dumb statements without asking questions. I was in a long line of passing autos...he blew by most of us. Even if I wasnt thats no excuse for passing on the shoulder. Doh!
I live in a state where "No Guns Allowed" signs have no legal consequences...I also Don't go to states that have "legal consequences". I carry insurance. I avoid people, places I'm "likely" to have a problem..I train...I sleep at night. Oh and I have very good security system, too.IF something happens to someone else in one of those places, I go the other way. IF something happens to me, there are legal strategies to deal with the outcome.
That is fantastic for you and your family, I challenge that you are extremely limited in where you can travel too experience the country and the world and live within your constraints.I live in a state where "No Guns Allowed" signs have no legal consequences...I also Don't go to states that have "legal consequences". I carry insurance. I avoid people, places I'm "likely" to have a problem..I train...I sleep at night. Oh and I have very good security system, too.![]()
Well, I'm 73, retired widower, and kids all grown...And, my oldest has access to automatic weapons (LEO), if I need a bodyguard...Lol. I live in the great Northwest and have no desire to travel east of the Rockies...BTDT (Note: OR, as of yet, has open carry outside the Leftist strongholds and WA accepts my CCW license...That is fantastic for you and your family, I challenge that you are extremely limited in where you can travel too experience the country and the world and live within your constraints.
Thankfully the shooter picked when he did and it appears he didn't have a plan, closing of the last day the crowd was thin. It could have been worse, as you point out sheep corraled.Herd a bunch of people into a gun free zone. Cut off egress and wait to see if your trap works.
Sadly it did, again !
Maybe a responsible gun owner could have mitigated some of the loss.
Ya think.
Rinse swish repeat.
There was normal event police presence, and it is a volunteer event so not sure how that played into it. After the shooting started there was rumors of a second shooter who escaped into a stream area in the woods and more LEO was called in for perimeters and canvassing.Cops did good this time,,,,,,there,, I said it.
But I gotta ask why are so many cops needed, who is paying that tab???
First step in border inspection stations.From the L.A. Times:
California Atty. Gen. Xavier Becerra said Monday the investigation into the shooting may determine that the shooter broke a California law by purchasing the weapon in Nevada and bringing it into California.
“That weapon could not be sold in California. That weapon cannot be imported into the state of California,” he said. “There is a very strong likelihood, as we develop the evidence, that the perpetrator in this particular case, violated California law, on top of the crimes of homicide.”
Bringing the rifle across state lines, that's what you're concerned about?!?
First step in border inspection stations.
Of course, never let a crisis go to waste...
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Kamala Harris Pushes Gun Control Before Gilroy Shooting Details Known
Kamala Harris said we need to fight the "gun violence epidemic" before the details of the Gilroy shooting were even known.www.breitbart.com
The fucking feeding frenzy commences.