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I usually leave the dish cleaning to Jack.
 
Miele is a great brand. I wish I'd have done all Miele including washer/dryer (though in US they are awfully small). Not liking my Maytag/Whirlpool stuff.
I do have a Miele vacuum cleaner and it kicks ARSE!!!! Practically stole it at 600 as it was a "window model" Great filters and you can do charcoal or HEPA on the exhaust filter too. Quality stuff, even if now some is dreaded chinese.

If I had to do my major purchases over. I'd either do LG or Electrolux for W/D, and go back to Bosch or Miele for dishwasher and Samsung/LG for 'fridge. Since I cannot afford the really good stuff like Thermador.
 
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Love hate with the Miele.

Loved it when it was working hated it when it wasn't.

Love that it is self repairable if you are so inclined.

If you go Miele ask the salesman if they have fixed the issue with the fill valve. Tell him/her if they lie to you, you will Falcón punch them.

Mine was a 2007 or so Model and the fill valve sucked. I have a post apocalyptic n here somewhere About the fix I did, would have worked but I fucked something else up and in a pique of frustration bought a Bosch which is also a fine machine.

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Now everybody has a sense of humor...when I ask a serious question?

Bunchaassholes.🤣

The current hooks are sharp and I am quite fond of them. I am in no way interested in going for new hooks. The Captain nor his daughter are in contact.

I have Electrolux products. Failure in year one. The replacement is on month 4. We shall see.

If not Miele, then which. Quiet, clean and reliable?
 
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Miele is a great brand. I wish I'd have done all Miele including washer/dryer (though in US they are awfully small). Not liking my Maytag/Whirlpool stuff.
I do have a Miele vacuum cleaner and it kicks ARSE!!!! Practically stole it at 600 as it was a "window model" Great filters and you can do charcoal or HEPA on the exhaust filter too. Quality stuff, even if now some is dreaded chinese.

If I had to do my major purchases over. I'd either do LG or Electrolux for W/D, and go back to Bosch or Miele for dishwasher and Samsung/LG for 'fridge. Since I cannot afford the really good stuff like Thermador.

Maytag/whirlpool/ge products I have had were not impressive enough to buy more. Irregardless of how far up the price ladder.

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Love hate with the Miele.

Loved it when it was working hated it when it wasn't.

Love that it is self repairable if you are so inclined.

If you go Miele ask the salesman if they have fixed the issue with the fill valve. Tell him/her if they lie to you, you will Falcón punch them.

Mine was a 2007 or so Model and the fill valve sucked. I have a post apocalyptic n here somewhere About the fix I did, would have worked but I fucked something else up and in a pique of frustration bought a Bosch which is also a fine machine.

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Mr. pmclaine,

How satisfied are you with the Bosch and how long have you owned the machine?

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This is never quiet and only moderately reliable. If anything gets hand washed, I inspect and usually wash it all again.

My time away from work is becoming much more valuable. Doing things twice or checking "work" when I'm home is not the direction I want to go. Current mechanical dishwasher is UNSAT.

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This, all on it's own, is not appreciated.:LOL:
 
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Mr. pmclaine,

How satisfied are you with the Bosch and how long have you owned the machine?

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Had the Bosch since December or so.

I think I like the "racking" in the Bosch better but the Bosch is not as overbuilt as the Miele. I feel that's particularly in the door......but the Bosch is working 100 percent.

The Miele would also be working now after I put in the GE valve control but I fucked up the simple process of installing the drain line with an anti siphon rise and got rid of the Miele thinking it was leaking when in fact it was my fuck up. I learned about anti siphon as I installed the Bosch and by than my Miele was off somewhere being crushed.

My posts about that event popped up a week or so ago.

I have a Miele washer/dryer going on twenty plus years old. I've changed plenty of wear items - brushes/ sensors - they can be worked on. Lots of info on line how to push buttons on the machine to diagnose internal faults. Miele used to be great doing this over the phone with you and would even walk you through a repair but something happened internally and now they tell you to get more info you need to make a service call.

We have a Miele vacuum, I concur with previous poster does a great job sucking.

Thinking the washer will be on it's last hurrah within the year. Main bearing seems to have a whine to it when spinning. Interested in trying Speed Queen washer/dryer when the kraut machine dies.
 
I fell into the buy American crap. The sales guy was fairly high on whirlpool products and this wasn’t a big box store. The Maytag washer is the worst thing. It clunks as part of normal operations. Goes out of balance too. Almost worse than the 14 year old bosch that finally started to get a bearing noise. The Maytag dryer works well but the sensor kind of misses it. I do like the 15 min wash though.

As much as I try to buy American I have to say I’m 90% of time completely unimpressed. Exceptions are Proto spline ratcheting wrenches and SK flare nut wrenches and simple SK pliers. Like the SK cross beam too though could not convince myself to get 6 point wrenches. Have Wera jokers instead.

I learned my lesson on vehicles and only consider Japanese and some German - though VW has disappointed me badly and not helped by generally incompetent dealers.
 
I fell into the buy American crap. The sales guy was fairly high on whirlpool products and this wasn’t a big box store. The Maytag washer is the worst thing. It clunks as part of normal operations. Goes out of balance too. Almost worse than the 14 year old bosch that finally started to get a bearing noise. The Maytag dryer works well but the sensor kind of misses it. I do like the 15 min wash though.

As much as I try to buy American I have to say I’m 90% of time completely unimpressed. Exceptions are Proto spline ratcheting wrenches and SK flare nut wrenches and simple SK pliers. Like the SK cross beam too though could not convince myself to get 6 point wrenches. Have Wera jokers instead.

I learned my lesson on vehicles and only consider Japanese and some German - though VW has disappointed me badly and not helped by generally incompetent dealers.

How much of Maytag or Whirlpools are US made?

Speed Queen is the only machine made in USA I thought.
 
They are made in Findlay, Ohio. I lived down the road from them. I buy an extended warranty on their washer, it lasts 5 years and self-destructs, they send me a new one, no issues. For a couple hundred bucks, the warranty is much cheaper than an $850 machine. Their dryers have only one issue, they lose the $15 idler pulley every couple of years. I replace it myself in 20 minutes, clean out the accumulated lint while the front is off, and go another two years. The washer has cpu board failures that are extremely expensive to replace, and their water pump gets its suction header plugged off by loose nickels and quarters from your pockets, but the killer is the shaft bearing. Warranty has repaired two for me, but the tech needed my snap-on impact gun to dismantle the thing. Once the warranty spends a certain amount, they cry Uncle and send you a brand new machine from your local LOWES store. I have had two new machines under warranty, but the last new washer they sent me is going strong, and is a product-improved model in all respects. I have been satisfied by Maytag, which is a Whirlpool brand.
 
Now everybody has a sense of humor...when I ask a serious question?

Bunchaassholes.🤣

The current hooks are sharp and I am quite fond of them. I am in no way interested in going for new hooks. The Captain nor his daughter are in contact.

I have Electrolux products. Failure in year one. The replacement is on month 4. We shall see.

If not Miele, then which. Quiet, clean and reliable?

Im having good luck with my LG stuff. Samsung if good as well.
 
I had a stainless Kitchenaid in the last house - lasted 17yrs until I moved. Remodeling my new house, and after reading consumer reports and a shit-ton of reviews, I installed two Kitchenaids. They clean well and are quiet.

39db w/knife rack
44db model

If you have space and Sunday dinners w/kids/parents - having two is the way to go. (I tore off back half of house to make a large kitchen)
Did two convection ovens as well. Did all the interior work myself, (plumbing/electrical/flooring/island), so not that expensive, just a lot of time.
 
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Our Miele are the Futura Dimension models. Speed Queen on washer/dryer. Bosch dishwashers take too long & didn't dry very well for us. Have friends that have had better luck with them however. It's a crap shoot anymore with appliances, one has good luck another one sucks. Warranties are only as good as the people/ co. Your dealing with. Difficult to find companies that stand behind their products consistently. Too many electronics today & companies don't want you working on them.. F**k em' & roll the dice.
 
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They are made in Findlay, Ohio. I lived down the road from them. I buy an extended warranty on their washer, it lasts 5 years and self-destructs, they send me a new one, no issues. For a couple hundred bucks, the warranty is much cheaper than an $850 machine. Their dryers have only one issue, they lose the $15 idler pulley every couple of years. I replace it myself in 20 minutes, clean out the accumulated lint while the front is off, and go another two years. The washer has cpu board failures that are extremely expensive to replace, and their water pump gets its suction header plugged off by loose nickels and quarters from your pockets, but the killer is the shaft bearing. Warranty has repaired two for me, but the tech needed my snap-on impact gun to dismantle the thing. Once the warranty spends a certain amount, they cry Uncle and send you a brand new machine from your local LOWES store. I have had two new machines under warranty, but the last new washer they sent me is going strong, and is a product-improved model in all respects. I have been satisfied by Maytag, which is a Whirlpool brand.
That's good to know because I bought the extended warranty (like 300 bucks) plus the place I bought it from offered their warranty for like 50 bucks. If it dies, and actually it's fine if it does since it's warrantied to the hilt, so be it. However, that front load washer has all sorts of noises...it even says in the owners manual...NORMAL. Had I been told this, wouldn't have purchased. The bedroom against the laundry is loud when the motor or whatever shifts modes. Sounds like a hammer.
 
Had/have Bosch. Only ever had one problem, which I repaired myself. On the board that goes in the door, there was a PCB trace that was not designed to handle the current going through it. It burned up, was obvious upon inspection. I soldered some solid copper wire between the two connection points and it's been running fine ever since. I'm guessing about 20 years now.
 
Our Miele are the Futura Dimension models. Speed Queen on washer/dryer. Bosch dishwashers take too long & didn't dry very well for us. Have friends that have had better luck with them however. It's a crap shoot anymore with appliances, one has good luck another one sucks. Warranties are only as good as the people/ co. Your dealing with. Difficult to find companies that stand behind their products consistently. Too many electronics today & companies don't want you working on them.. F**k em' & roll the dice.

I am on with F**k'em.

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It is according to my phone and my sister. Therefore, it makes everything okay.

How about ain't?

And where were you when I was spelling all my shit wrong? Lmao

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So is Nucular instead of the correct Nuclear because people live down to lowered expectations. And woke fuck-tards like Webster's like to roll with stupid.

More is expected of you from your peers here than in the general chemically lobotomized populace.

ain't is a mostly acceptable non-word, as are many other redneck cobbled together phrases, vowels and consonants.

Can't be everywhere to help at all times.
 
That's good to know because I bought the extended warranty (like 300 bucks) plus the place I bought it from offered their warranty for like 50 bucks. If it dies, and actually it's fine if it does since it's warrantied to the hilt, so be it. However, that front load washer has all sorts of noises...it even says in the owners manual...NORMAL. Had I been told this, wouldn't have purchased. The bedroom against the laundry is loud when the motor or whatever shifts modes. Sounds like a hammer.
Mine has always been the top loader model. They are typically quiet, until the shaft bearing goes south 🙉
 
They're great appliances but there are a few things in the instructions that aren't translated correctly. Specifically if you're going to do furniture panels to make them look like your cabinets. The rough opening and panel sizes are wrong in their instructions. If you aren't going that route, rock on. If you're doing panels I can help or ask your carpenter if they're familiar. I've run into it twice where a cabinet company went off the Miela specs and the panel won't allow the dishwasher to open because they hang low and don't account for the toekick.
 
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