Rifle Scopes American Made?

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nuttshooter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I guess how do you know ALL of it is made in the US? I mean look at o-rings and hardware. Is anything 100% USA made?</div></div>

anymore i doubt ANYTHING truely is. even the stars and stripes i fly out side has a made in canada tag on it.

the only thing i'm sure of is, well, my kid....
 
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with current trade agreements most items made in trade zone areas along the pacific rim can be classified as 100% American made, including Chinese stuff.
The list is considerably shorter than you thought.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KnabstrupperUSA</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i thought the components to nf were made out of the united states and it is just assembled here... correct me if i am wrong </div></div> i think that's correct, the last one i bought had a sticker on it that said "Japan". keep searching here, if i recall correctly, there has been threads on this topic (Nightforce/US made?)
 
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i saw with my own eyes the total production facility of USO in brea, CA.

i dont think its possible to get a more american made product.

(from what i remember NXS compacts and F1s are US made)
 
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The F1 and Compact scopes are made/assembled/QC'd in Idaho. The SFP 3.5-15, 5.5-22 etc scopes have more parts from outside the US so they have to be labeled made in Japan but they are also assembled and QC'd in Idaho.
 
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<span style="font-weight: bold">China becomes biggest exporter, edging out Germany</span>
Jan 10, 1:59 PM (ET)
By JOE McDONALD

BEIJING (AP) - Already the biggest auto market and steel maker, China edged past Germany in 2009 to become the top exporter, yet another sign of its rapid rise and the spread of economic power from West to East.

Total 2009 exports were more than $1.2 trillion, China's customs agency said Sunday. That was ahead of the 816 billion euros ($1.17 trillion) forecast for Germany by its foreign trade organization, BGA.

China's new status is mostly symbolic but highlights its growing presence as an industrial power, major buyer of oil, iron ore and other commodities and, increasingly, as an investor and key voice in managing the global economy.

Its ability to unseat longtime export leader Germany reflects the ability of agile, low-cost Chinese manufacturers to keep selling abroad even as other exporters have been hammered by a slump in global demand.

China overtook Germany in 2007 as the third-largest economy and is expected to unseat Japan as No. 2 behind the United States as early as this year. Its trade boom has helped Beijing pile up the world's biggest foreign currency reserves at more than $2 trillion.

The global crisis speeded China's rise up the ranks as a 4 trillion yuan ($586 billion) government stimulus kept its economy and consumption growing while the U.S. and other markets struggled with recession. Chinese economic growth rose to 8.9 percent in the third quarter of 2009 and the government is forecasting a full-year expansion of 8.3 percent.

On Friday, data released by an industry group showed China topped the slumping United States in auto sales in 2009 - a status industry analysts a few years ago did not expect it to achieve until as late as 2020.

Economists and Germany's national chamber of commerce said earlier the country was likely to lose its longtime crown as top exporter.

China's exports per person are still much lower than those of Germany, which has a much smaller population of 80 million people. China sells low-tech goods such as shoes, toys and furniture, while Germany exports machinery and other higher-value products. German commentators note their country supplies the factory equipment used by top Chinese manufacturers.

"If China grows, this pushes the world's economy - and that's good for export-oriented Germany as well," an economist for the German Chamber of Industry and Commerce, Volker Treier, said last month.

Of course, with 1.3 billion people, China is still one of the world's poorest countries. It ranked 130th among economies in per capita income in 2008, according to the World Bank.

China's trade ended 2009 with exports rebounding in December, jumping 17.7 percent after 13 months of declines, the customs agency said.

The upturn was an "important turning point" for exporters, a customs agency economist, Huang Guohua, said on state television, CCTV.

"We can say that China's export enterprises have completely emerged from their all-time low in exports," Huang said.

Plunging demand in 2008 forced thousands of factories to close and threw millions of laborers out of work.

China's trade surplus shrank by 34.2 percent in 2009 to $196.07 billion, the customs agency said. That reflected China's stronger demand for imported raw materials and consumer goods.

Iron ore imports rose 41.6 percent to 630 million tons, while oil imports rose 13.9 percent to 1.4 billion barrels, the agency said. Economists say the buying binge has been driven in part by a Chinese effort to build up stockpiles while global prices are low.

The United States and other governments complain that part of China's export success is based on currency controls and improper subsidies that give its exporters an unfair advantage against foreign rivals.

Washington has imposed anti-dumping duties on imports of Chinese-made steel pipes and some other goods, while the European Union has imposed curbs on Chinese shoes.

The U.S. and other governments also complain that Beijing keeps its currency, the yuan, undervalued. Beijing broke the yuan's link to the dollar in 2005 and it rose gradually until late 2008, but has been frozen since then against the U.S. currency in what economists say is an effort by Beijing to keep its exporters competitive.

The dollar's weakness against the euro and some other currencies pulls down the yuan in markets that use them and makes Chinese goods even more attractive there, adding to China's trade surplus.

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Associated Press writer Gillian Wong contributed to this report.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The F1 and Compact scopes are made/assembled/QC'd in Idaho. The SFP 3.5-15, 5.5-22 etc scopes have more parts from outside the US so they have to be labeled made in Japan but they are also assembled and QC'd in Idaho. </div></div>
 
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NUTT, It was meant darkly. I think that in some ways and whether people like it or not, the world has changed and it is not changing back. I try to buy locally where I can, fresh vegetables and such from the farmer's market, but the lack of pineapple farms make me have to look elsewhere.

If by make you mean assembly, the list is probably pretty good but most glass starts somewhere else.

I was using a bit of the Ricardian equilibrium in my response.
 
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Ricardo was right about some things - but if we offshore production of everything which can be made more cheaply elsewhere, we end up with a lot of lowly-paid service-sector jobs which won't support a family.

Not everyone has the cognitive skills to be a system analyst.
 
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WOW down to ASSEMBLED in USA, soon to be Touched by USA

One day you can see that our kids or the next generation will be travelling to China to get a job.
there is no infrastructure here any longer
GOD ITS A SHAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nuttshooter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I guess i will just have to settle for assembled in USA. </div></div>
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bill Stoffels</div><div class="ubbcode-body">WOW down to ASSEMBLED in USA, soon to be Touched by USA
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Well parts of your new scopes were made in Nunya and assembled in the USA
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: heatseekins</div><div class="ubbcode-body">100% USA here down to the raw material and screws... </div></div>


And loving every minute of your rings on my scope...... I tried the other 34 mm rings and came back to the seekins!!! As for made in us scopes well mine has a German accent but it really likes the rings it's snugly fit into!!

NOmag
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Anchor Station</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Funny how when we think of SB and Zeiss the place of origin becomes a secondary consideration.

Seems like when this topic comes up what the real question is what is made in Asia.

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I don't think its funny. But I will tell you what I think is sad,...

CHINA has just NOW become the number one EXPORTER of all nations on the planet. Do you know who USED to be #1?

Germany.
 
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The 'nunya' comment was clumsy to say the least, and it would be tempting and easy to disregard the product because of bad PR, but, in truth, it was relevant in that the level of detail being asked of where every itty bitty component is made, is, well, not for public discussion. I would assume, NF, and others would come out with a similar, though better worded response, had they been pressed to state all their materials sourcing.

There are rules and regulations around where the country of origin or manufacture is designated. Given that Premier are a tactical product company I imagine their labeling gets looked into in far more by the Govt. when they pitch and vie for military contracts than the average poster here is capable or even desirous of doing.

From my perspective, when I had an issue and I called, I got an American person, speaking english on the line. Not 'Simon' from Mumbai, or 'Paul' from Yokohama, or 'Peter' from Godonlyknowswhere. That's a good thing in my books.

I will say one thing, being made 'here' as opposed to 'there' is only beneficial if the product itself is at least as good in value and quality as the alternative.