*Announcing the 2009 Sniper's Hide Build Rifle *

[robozebra]

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Guess I should've been the squeaky wheel... LOL!!

 

[SSG3K]

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Its a shame . I would probably buy one of those rifles if i knew i could get it.

Rich

 

[Sendero_Man]

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All three rifles that George built me are shooters !

I am sure you all will be happy !

 

[native]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sendero_man</div><div class="ubbcode-body">All three rifles that George built me are shooters !

I am sure you all will be happy ! </div></div>

I was waiting for you to chime in Sendero_man
I think and hope you might be right

I'm covered up to my eyeballs in work right now
If there is ANYWAY to get her stretched out this week/weekend I will
I only have 100rds of SWA 139's and got to get on the bench

 

[Iron Worker]

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Really glad these rifles are trickling in,can't wait for a range report. Is that color combo supposed to be some kind of camo ? No Thanks.

 

[Pusher591]

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Sick looking rifle!

 

[WRM]

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Last time I spoke with George in mid-June, and posted the report in this tread, there were two things that he was going to take care of within two weeks. One of which was coating the OD rings on my used scope purchase to match this build. He was coating weekly, so it wasn't a big deal to coat them when he did the weekly coating.

I'm please to say that I did receive the rings two weeks ago, and I really like the color - it should fit in well with the fields around here.

I have no idea if the second event has occurred, but at least I can use my scope again!...

Great pics, Native - Thank you!

Looking forward to the day that I'll be able to mount that scope on this build - where it belongs!...

Cheers,

Bill

 

[KYS]

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Would be SUPER if he could get on here and give a shipment schedule to all those involved.

 

[Chiller]

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very nice looking

 

[Northland]

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Glad the riflres are getting here!

Native, your rifle looks great man!!

 

[Pusher591]

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I can't wait to see everyone elses. If will be cool to see how everyone set there's up as far as barrel length, suppressor mount and so on.

 

[Dagsta]

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Barrel lengths are all the same, only thing different will be NV mount and which brake was used!

 

[chansen49]

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Its funny, all it took was one rifle and were all giddy like school girls.. George, you listening? Come on here and give us the skinny, I'll say the rifle looks pretty damn good.. I haven't paid in full but 2/3 so I'm gonna hope for an invoice SOMETIME..


Ch

 

[Dagsta]

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No worries about me Chansen, I ain't giddy one bit!!

 

[chansen49]

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Oh yeah you are, I saw you dancing around in your underwear like Tom Cruise in risky business.

Ch

 

[ChadTRG42]

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Let me know if you guys need the ammo developed for this rifle. Here's my data from the range trip:

My final trip to the range confirmed the load I like. Load G is the money load.

9 shots (cold bore at 100 yard, 8 rounds at 300 yards)
2692 fps avg, 23 ES, 7 SD- temp was about 70 degrees.
CB- 2701- 2693, 2695, 2690, 2704, 2694, 2683, 2691, 2681
Group is just under 1.5" at 300 yards. There were 2 fliers high left. With those 2, the group is right at 3".

Load H was below that, and opened up some. 3 rounds gave me mild pressure signs, so it's as high as I think it can go.

 

[fastford]

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anybody else get one?

 

[robozebra]

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I've tried to PM him regarding my rifle without a response. Hopefully he's busy putting them together...

 

[KYS]

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I have emailed and called. No responses.

 

[AdvenJack]

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Hoping this weekend afforded <span style="font-size: 11pt"> <span style="color: #000099"> <span style="font-weight: bold">native</span> </span> </span> time to range test his
new rifle. All look forward to a wonderful report!

 

[KYS]

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Has anyone else been contacted that their rifle has shipped? We have confirmation that one rifle has been received and that is it, no others?

 

[Jeep Chimp]

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Nothing here.....

 

[chansen49]

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Obviously the guys who paid in FULL, and then maybe the order in which they were paid should be the priority in which the rifles are sent out. I for one, have paid about 2/3 and have requested a final invoice to no avail.. I would think it would behoove him to finish these up so he can collect the remainder to help recoup the purchase price of the materials.. Im still waiting, The first rifle looks pretty darn good, I cant wait for a review/range report, then to see more rifles delivered, hell, that might even make me all warm and fuzzy inside.. Seeing how at times we were about to start acting like a lynch mob..

With that said, Im gonna make a captain and coke..

Ch

 

[KYS]

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Well, I paid in full over a year ago. I have never received a timeline, a ship date, tracking info or contact from him in over 9 months. To say Im skeptical is being very nice.

 

[Jeep Chimp]

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Honestly Adam, I just don't think George likes you very much.....

 

[KYS]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jeep Chimp</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Honestly Adam, I just don't think George likes you very much..... </div></div>

Thats what he said about you as well....

 

[native]

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I wish I had better news about the range report, only because there is not one yet.
Significant obligations just would not allow for it this week.
I have not even peeked at it since taking the pictures.
I have cleared the table now and top on my list is to get to the bench and out.

Have faith guys!
I did just barely and still do that ALL these will get done and out......shortly HOPEFULLY FOR EVERBODYS SAKE!!!!!!!!!

 

[robozebra]

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I hope they all get completed and delivered, and I really hope that it's not 2 years between each one.... LOL

 

[Jeep Chimp]

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I actually just got an email from George. He says he should have them all completed by the end of November. He is "into a good flow of rifles now." Mine should be done by the end of October. For what it's worth....
Ken

 

[robozebra]

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Great news Ken. I might get a Christmas gift. Now just got to figure out the year...

 

[Papagallos]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jeep Chimp</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I actually just got an email from George. He says he should have them all completed by the end of November. He is "into a good flow of rifles now." Mine should be done by the end of October. For what it's worth....
Ken </div></div>

I'm not involved in this build but I've been keeping up with this thread. I truly hope everything works out before the end of this year for you guys.

 

[AdvenJack]

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When is the next <span style="font-weight: bold"> <span style="font-size: 14pt"> <span style="color: #009900"> 1</span> </span> going out?</span>

 

[native]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jeep Chimp</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I actually just got an email from George. He says he should have them all completed by the end of November. He is "into a good flow of rifles now." Mine should be done by the end of October. For what it's worth....
Ken </div></div>

Here is my gut talking
Now that the safety is issue is "resolved" so to speak, I think things will roll.
The fact you got a email is GOOD!
He has a substantial amount of money yet to be received, he needs and wants it no doubt.

Yes we have heard it all before, but this will end soon I'm convinced!
Warning! posting fwiw will get you, messenger shot on site comments.
Fuk it! Hang together, communicate and this will get done!

 

[DP425]

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I hate to ask, but did all 25 of these "sell"? I see we are about two years since it started but I am curious... and I don't want to search through 16 pages to find out.

 

[Dagsta]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: native</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jeep Chimp</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I actually just got an email from George. He says he should have them all completed by the end of November. He is "into a good flow of rifles now." Mine should be done by the end of October. For what it's worth....
Ken </div></div>

Here is my gut talking
Now that the safety is issue is "resolved" so to speak, I think things will roll.
The fact you got a email is GOOD!
He has a substantial amount of money yet to be received, he needs and wants it no doubt.

Yes we have heard it all before, but this will end soon I'm convinced!
Warning! posting fwiw will get you, messenger shot on site comments.
Fuk it! Hang together, communicate and this will get done!

</div></div>

Native I wish you would quit yackin and go shoot the damn thing!!!!

 

[native]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dagsta
[/quote</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Native I wish you would quit yackin and go shoot the damn thing!!!! </div></div>


Copy that
Scope is on etc..
Powder started to trickle last night and this weekend for sure!!

 

[Dagsta]

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Great! Range report on my desk at 0800 Monday!!!

 

[KYS]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DP425</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I hate to ask, but did all 25 of these "sell"? I see we are about two years since it started but I am curious... and I don't want to search through 16 pages to find out. </div></div>

No, he said only 15 sold from this site.

 

[chansen49]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DP425</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I hate to ask, but did all 25 of these "sell"? I see we are about two years since it started but I am curious... and I don't want to search through 16 pages to find out. </div></div>

No, he said only 15 sold from this site. </div></div>

Hell, then we should have a 1 of 15 rifle then..lol..

Ch

 

[ctressler]

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I would really like to see more pictures of these rifles as the are finished, if people can muster the excitement to share them.

 

[Dagsta]

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Native you're late with the Range Report. I'm putting a warrant out for you here shortly!!

 

[native]

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Sunday 10/09/11
Apex .260 rem - 18.5" barrel
Driving snow/rain all day, so much for Saturday.

Sunday 10/09/11
Conditions - 41-44 deg - Dry/Overcast
Steady wind - 10-12 mph - Steady 11 - 1 clock for the most part [pretty good]
Altitude - 4800

Brass all rem but for a couple of nosler
All rds fired with .30 SRT Shadow TI [sweet]
All rds fired prone with Atlas bipod
Scope - NF 3.5x15 [be nice for a touch more power with this old eyes, but I do like the weight/size]


168 rds fired with 1 no go [primer? to be determined]
20 rds fired of factory Southwest 139 scenar
148 rds of my loads all being .020 off
Mix of - 139 scenar - 142 SMK - 140 VLD hunting MG
Powders were RL17 - 4831sc - 4350 [mostly the latter two, need to work with 17]

Random thoughts:
The bad
Initially trying to chamber and extract WITHOUT FIRING was VERY challenging if not impossible almost.
After about 40 or 50 rds at the bench it became better but inconsistent.
Obviously the tolerances are tight and after smoothing out the paint on the bolt/action in some areas was much better.
At the range- by the end of the day and some cleaning/oiling the feeding was perfection but extraction was still for the most not fun at all and very heavy! and not due to heavy loads.
I'm pretty sure that chamber needs a good cleaning and hopefully gets better with time and is just paint,
but any thoughts are welcomed.

The good
It shoots or has the potential for better than myself
I'm use to shooting .50bmg for the most part [driving it] I did better when I let this shoot itself
Magazine and latch fit/function could not be better, no play at all and smooth
Feeding was 100%

Due to time I worked loads at 100 yds for ease and use of chrony
Shot only 5 groups at 300 yd, not too shabby either I thought.
Older chrony but I think she is fairly accurate hopefully and it was good to have an overcast day.
Really don't care much for shooting "groups", so now I hope to extend/ stretch out a bit... find a few loads and have some fun!

Need to load up a little heavier on some and see what happens
Got a couple of smileys on the RL17 when pushing into the 2735 range
Could not be happier, just gotta get the extraction smoothed out!
Some numbers as I measure below with some pics if you click here - <span style="font-size: 14pt"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #FF0000">Apex</span></span> </span>Your mileage may/will vary of course
Copy and paste sucks, cant get my numbers chart to work. I'll update later maybe. Basically average velocity/extreme spread/group size


Factory
SWA 139- 2582 vel
100yd- [email protected] [email protected] [email protected]


My Loads - All were 5 shot groups except the RL17
Scenar 139 100 yd
4350 AV ES
2559 48 - 1.030 0.646 w/o flyer
2635 28 - 0.873
2623 41 - 0.529
2662 19 - 0.731
Scenar 139
4831sc AV ES
2652 27 - 0.420
2662 12 - 0.350 Keeper
Scenar 139
RL17 AV ES
2660 23 - 0.430
2735 21- 0.663 Little warm I think, hard to tell with tough bolt all day

SMK 140
4350 AV ES
2566 18 - 0.312
2588 40 - 0.705
2600 41 - 0.804
2604 12 - 0.472
2623 48 - 0.425
SMK 140
4831sc AV ES
2618 20 - 1.112 0.536 w/o flyer
2635 28 - 0.884
SMK 140 AV ES
RL17 2640 26 - 0.441
2711 57 - 1.624
Vld 140
4350 AV ES
2623 99 - 0.636
2602 22 - 0.676
2610 15 - 0.694
? ? - 0.588
2660 37 - 1.438 0.688 w/o flyer
Vld 140
4831sc AV ES
2557 58 - 1.027 0.528 w/o flyer
2634 36 - 0.809
2652 38 - 0.791
2640 14 - 0.653

Vld 140
RL17 AV ES
? ? - 0.441

 

[Gray]

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Nice review native, you've already done your part with the photos but I'm still up for more! You've definetly got 14 guys biting their nails.

 

[chansen49]

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Atta boy Native, now could you take some more pics for us? Whats it weigh with scope and bipod?


Ch

 

[native]

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Guys I did add some more pics besides target pics
In fact I show pics of it broken down.
Anything you want specific let me know.
Again click below
<span style="font-size: 14pt"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #FF0000">Apex</span></span> </span>

I'll get back on the full weight as it is

 

[chansen49]

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Thanks, whats up with the cracked bedding goop?


Ch

 

[Bruiser_Joe]

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damn that is a nice stick

 

[native]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chansen49</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Thanks, whats up with the cracked bedding goop?
Ch </div></div>

A little void its fine, looks strange in pic I admit.

 

[chansen49]

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I like the cow pie RIGHT next to your shooting mat.. Dont tell me there is one underneath too!.. lol


Ch

 

[Jeep Chimp]

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OK, has anyone ELSE heard from George?