As the title says, guess my latest project. 3" barrel, .38 special caliber. Block of aluminum is 3x2x1 inches.
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View thread Contact supportSedgley fist/glove gun?As the title says, guess my latest project. 3" barrel, .38 special caliber. Block of aluminum is 3x2x1 inches.
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Not by my research. The .38 S&W was pretty much replaced with the development of the .38 Special.Shouldn't it be 38 S&W to be correct?
On the other hand, the ATF seems to think they were made in both calibers:Shouldn't it be 38 S&W to be correct?
Curiously, the patent itself doesn't mention a particular calibre but actually shows and describes it using a shotgun shell instead of a bullet...On the other hand, the ATF seems to think they were made in both calibers:
In the current AFT C&R publication the “OSS Glove Pistol, caliber.38 S&W or.38 special,” is listed under Section III as a weapon removed from the NFA list as collectors’ items and classified as a curio or relic under the GCA stating: “The Bureau has determined that by reason of the date of their manufacture, design, and other characteristics, the following firearms are primarily collector’s items and are not likely to be used as weapons and, therefore, are excluded from the provisions of the National Firearms Act.”
On the other hand, the ATF seems to think they were made in both calibers:
In the current AFT C&R publication the “OSS Glove Pistol, caliber.38 S&W or.38 special,” is listed under Section III as a weapon removed from the NFA list as collectors’ items and classified as a curio or relic under the GCA stating: “The Bureau has determined that by reason of the date of their manufacture, design, and other characteristics, the following firearms are primarily collector’s items and are not likely to be used as weapons and, therefore, are excluded from the provisions of the National Firearms Act.”
I usually don't reply to posts like this, but you seem confused about how a firearm is built. Finish? That's a raw block of Aluminum. Threads? The threads have been turned down to make a barrel liner. It's at about the 25% point in construction. But thanks for the input.I don't know but the finish and threads(?) look like shit...amateurish. Probably dangerous to bystanders.
More like a weak pipe bomb, from the looks of it.
Dude STFU…I don't know but the finish and threads(?) look like shit...amateurish. Probably dangerous to bystanders.
More like a weak pipe bomb, from the looks of it.
You remind me of a dumbassHere's mine, built in seconds...what is it?
It's a rifled barrel and block of aluminum.
Almost the same as yours, grasshopper...but bigger bore.
Go ahead guess!
Really, ... It's just shit, I have laying around the shop.
Same as yours.
That's my guess...
Notice the 50BMG pills ready for loading, 650 and 750 grs...for something I built that is real.
Here's mine, built in seconds...what is it?
It's a rifled barrel and block of aluminum.
Almost the same as yours, grasshopper...but bigger bore.
Go ahead guess!
Really, ... It's just shit, I have laying around the shop.
Same as yours.
That's my guess...
Notice the 50BMG pills ready for loading, 650 and 750 grs...for something I built that is real.
Fuck it, let him learn the hard way.Take this stuff to the bear pit. This isn’t how vintage works.
Buffalo Winter has restored and/or built from scratch some amazing historical recreations. Has restored a dozens of real period pieces. Has built more cool stuff from scratch and the bins of parts than 99 percent of folks here.
While I joke about his welding… I own several things he has restored or “built”’over the years and they are not “crap.”
What starts out as an aluminum block and a barrel sleeve in an initial picture will ultimately not only work, but will be cool as hell.
So drop it. This section of the hide has bancats with hair triggers.
Sirhr
Yeah just seeing a picture you think maybe it's like Boba Fett's wrist-launcher or you hold out your arm and actuate a trigger. Nope, you PUNCH Nazis with it and then steal their shit! Is it the best design for an "assassination device"? Nah. It's too bulky and too obvious, can't really be fully concealed like they did with belt buckles and cigarette cases. But for a quick-use guerilla fighter's semi-covert weapon, it do work good.The picture of the glove/gun had me confused. Watching the movie clip it now makes sense. More of a mele firearm. An assassin's tool. Very cool.
Hey, let's keep it professional and courteous in the tech forums. If you wanna talk trash, take it to the pit.I don't know but the finish and threads(?) look like shit...amateurish. Probably dangerous to bystanders.
More like a weak pipe bomb, from the looks of it.
From what I can tell based on posts in other threads, this IS professional and courteous. I’m really surprised more people don’t have him on ignore. I was curious about what buffalowinyer was responding to. I gotta say I’m not surprised, and was immediately reminded why I have 45 on ignore. Better than a ban, as I decide if it is lifted.Hey, let's keep it professional and courteous in the tech forums. If you wanna talk trash, take it to the pit.
LIVE FIRE TEST
Live fire with .38 special 115g LaserCast RNFP from my sponsored days as a Cowboy Action Shooter.
Everything worked fine. Got the hammer geometry right on the first go. Ignore the threaded screw, nail for a roll pin etc. This is all in the design and testing phase. Now we move on to the finish phase. Clean everything up, make the top cover, polish all parts, put in roll pins, axle's etc. Shape everything to the original (more or less) design, apply battleworn Cerakote to gun and battleworn finish to the glove, and put it all together. I'll probably finish this afternoon.
Like the Liberator, which Eisenhower had 3/4 of a million dropped in the bottom of the ocean, the glove gun was even less practical and more dangerous.
Neither ever documented as being used.
The movie is an unrealistic joke...this thing would get one killed in real life.
Like the rocket pistol in Vietnam.
There are a few "firearms" that were really usless and dangerous POS, this is one of them.
It must have heavy contact to a hard surface fire.
Hit a fat guy hard in the chest, it probably won't go off.
The original was a crude failure as a weapon...worse than many prison zip guns.
The orginial post asked, "guess what it is?"
I did.
A piece of aluminum and a rough turned rifled barrel is no masterpiece in my book...I have the same thing laying around in my shop, as shown, with no effort made.
And like you, I'm entitled to my opinion.
But you can love on its unrealized beauty all ya want...
Always wanted a GyroJet. I bid on a few many many years ago, but never followed through with staying high bidder.
You certainly have a right to your opinion.Like the Liberator, which Eisenhower had 3/4 of a million dropped in the bottom of the ocean, the glove gun was even less practical and more dangerous.
Neither ever documented as being used.
The movie is an unrealistic joke...this thing would get one killed in real life.
Like the rocket pistol in Vietnam.
There are a few "firearms" that were really usless and dangerous POS, this is one of them.
It must have heavy contact to a hard surface fire.
Hit a fat guy hard in the chest, it probably won't go off.
The original was a crude failure as a weapon...worse than many prison zip guns.
The orginial post asked, "guess what it is?"
I did.
A piece of aluminum and a rough turned rifled barrel is no masterpiece in my book...I have the same thing laying around in my shop, as shown, with no effort made.
And like you, I'm entitled to my opinion.
But you can love on its unrealized beauty all ya want...
My comment was directed at 45-90 (and why I quoted his response).From what I can tell based on posts in other threads, this IS professional and courteous. I’m really surprised more people don’t have him on ignore. I was curious about what buffalowinyer was responding to. I gotta say I’m not surprised, and was immediately reminded why I have 45 on ignore. Better than a ban, as I decide if it is lifted.
LIVE FIRE TEST
Live fire with .38 special 115g LaserCast RNFP from my sponsored days as a Cowboy Action Shooter.
Everything worked fine. Got the hammer geometry right on the first go. Ignore the threaded screw, nail for a roll pin etc. This is all in the design and testing phase. Now we move on to the finish phase. Clean everything up, make the top cover, polish all parts, put in roll pins, axle's etc. Shape everything to the original (more or less) design, apply battleworn Cerakote to gun and battleworn finish to the glove, and put it all together. I'll probably finish this afternoon.
You’re a real sad and lonely person. I hope your life gets better for you.Like the Liberator, which Eisenhower had 3/4 of a million dropped in the bottom of the ocean, the glove gun was even less practical and more dangerous.
Neither ever documented as being used.
The movie is an unrealistic joke...this thing would get one killed in real life.
Like the rocket pistol in Vietnam.
There are a few "firearms" that were really usless and dangerous POS, this is one of them.
It must have heavy contact to a hard surface fire.
Hit a fat guy hard in the chest, it probably won't go off.
The original was a crude failure as a weapon...worse than many prison zip guns.
The orginial post asked, "guess what it is?"
I did.
A piece of aluminum and a rough turned rifled barrel is no masterpiece in my book...I have the same thing laying around in my shop, as shown, with no effort made.
And like you, I'm entitled to my opinion.
But you can love on its unrealized beauty all ya want...
I think that what @hlee was saying is that response by 45 is his level of professional and courteous. As in he isn't that professional or courteous.My comment was directed at 45-90 (and why I quoted his response).
It's great to me that they used a bunch of GyroJets in "You Only Live Twice". Ninjas with rocket-guns are one of those things that could go one of two ways, and it worked.Always wanted a GyroJet. I bid on a few many many years ago, but never followed through with staying high bidder.
Something about the odd stuff is really cool and deserves to be preserved.
It's great to me that they used a bunch of GyroJets in "You Only Live Twice". Ninjas with rocket-guns are one of those things that could go one of two ways, and it worked.
Is the modern version of the Welrod from B&T available that may have contributed to the retirement:View attachment 8441935
I’ve always wanted to make one of these up. OSS sleeve gun also called Stinger.
BTW I checked with a buddy who wrote one of the books about OSS operations as to whether the glove guns had ever been used operationally.
He said he had never seen anything in the reports. But that does not mean they were not issued or used. Just not in available research materials. Though he suspects not used.
But a sleeve gun/stinger like the one pictured above was used to kill a German officer in his bed. There are probably other examples. So it was definitely used.
Liberators were used as a means to acquire a more advanced weapon. They were not a battle weapon. But cost only about a dollar each… so were a good value for OSS in terms of creating disruption and giving resistance fighters a way to resist. Concept was tried again in Vietnam with the “deer gun.” Widely used “fire and forget” disposable weapon. There are still probably tens of thousands in dresser drawers all over France, Belgium and Holland. Along with Sten guns, MG42’s and anything else being saved for a rainy day.
Then there was the “toothpaste gun…” from the Cold War. Also called the stinger.
Covert action breeds cool stuff.
BTW the Welrod was only ‘just’ taken out of inventory in the last year or two. All the remaining operational guns are at the Royal Armouries being catalogued. The RA will keep one of each ‘variant’ and the rest will go out to museums. Hopefully not destroyed. There may be a book coming on Welrod. Not being “coy” about it. Just don’t know if my buddy who went to the RA last year and examined all the Welrods will get around to writing it.
Though I suspect that a ‘few’ Welrods may have remained at some units. They are still extremely useful for their designed purpose. Though some slide-locked autos are almost as quiet. Welrod is still the varsity.
Sirhr
Is the modern version of the Welrod from B&T available that may have contributed to the retirement:
https://bt-usa.com/product-category/station6/ and their earlier VP9 "Veterinary pistol"