You started this thread blaming ANTIFA out your ass and now he has to substantiate? Did I miss the / sarcasm or what?
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Antifa murder hit
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Definitely tough to tell, I was only leaning toward the VP9 since you see when he’s cycling it that it doesn’t seem like a pull back motion only, instead it’s a twist pull. Also, it seems like it’s muscle memory for him to rotate it counter clockwise to clear the casing like you would a VP9. Either way, it definitely seems like it’s someone who’s done this before.
My super reliable Gen 3 G19 with fresh factory recoil spring had FTF issues with my Obisidian 45. Had to change the spring to a Wolf, when shooting with it.
Got a Gen 4 and it was gtg with no changes except the same threaded barrel.
I don’t see a profession hit.
I see either a guy who took the hit very seriously.
Or a professional hit, specifically made to look like a non pro hit.
I see either a guy who took the hit very seriously.
Or a professional hit, specifically made to look like a non pro hit.
Maybe… this is the best photo I could find. the top doesn’t have the scallop…
Was he barehanded or light colored gloves? Can’t tell.
Vp9 sticks out a lot further out the back. But could be the angle. Just seems like a very traceable thing to use… pro or not!
A couple of buddies have said professional…. Or very, very well-trained. But I’d argue that also someone motivated, driven, focused and on a mission could be just as thorough.
Ya never know. It’s all speculation!
So did he pay for coffee with cash? Did they get his cup for dna… or the bill he paid with for trace DNA? Did he wash his brass? Leave sweat on his bike seat? NYC is almost 100 percent covered by cameras… can he E&E through that kind of coverage?
And is there a motive…so many possible. Anti capitalist. Denied claim. Insider trading. One of the thousands he just laid off? Someone whose wife he was banging. Someone who lost a relative through clot shot… there are a million possible motives and no one liked this guy…. No one!!
So we can guess all we want… and it’s fun. But we ain’t gonna solve it here!
Sirhr
Whichever... I bet the phones are ringing off the hook at Close-quarters protection agencies right about now. All those former Tier One guys wondering if they'd have to go to Syria or Ukraine are going to find themselves on private jets, yachts, and tropical islands... and in Boardrooms and Limos... Much nicer than eating bugs in Syria! Pays a lot better, too! Them big houses in Moyok don't pay for themselves ya know!
Just watch how fast these CEO's demand USSS-level protection! And bet they pay enough to get guys who can stand on a sloping roof and know how ot re-holster their pistols.
Just 'sayin!
Sirhr
It's pretty humorous reading so many posts about "cans are illegal in NY". Last I checked, so is murder...didn't seem to be much of a deterrent. 
As technology evolves and now we have a society where camera and AI powered facial recog surveillance is everywhere, one can only assume that crimes in the future will evolve as well. Pretty much gone are the days when a person can carry out anything from tagging a wall with an offensive logo to doing a mob hit without leaving a trail of electronic signatures behind them, a collage of pickup feeds from different cameras all along their entire trail synced to one database. Drones will probably become more and more used in various clandestine activity and the next lords of the criminal underworld would be those guys who are tech experts in the day and operating workshops at night building drones for various purposes and selling them to those who are willing to buy.
You'd have drones with jet torches built in that can fuck up lenses on security cameras and destroy sensitive electronic modules on control panels, motion detectors etc, before a bank burglary crew goes in for the heist. There are already small frog sized quadcopters that can start fires and do all sorts of mischief like spray painting house roofs and dropping paint bombs. And eventually you'd get small beyblade type things with circular saw blades that fly by a target and fatally slash their jugulars before anybody even noticed the little bugger zipping around. Governments will first become overwhelmed by this arms race, but then quickly come up with countermeasures such as glasses with software built in that can ID and pinpoint any small electronic gadgetry in the vicinity giving off EM signatures from their operation. In places where nuisance and killer drones are being used to high frequency, people would be walking around permanently looking through an electronic display in front of their eyes that scans all potential threats. The future is going to be VERY cyberpunk...
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Yup… though it’s not like you could leave cocaine in the White House (if it happened and was not a distraction) or blow up a data center in Nashville or leave a bomb near an inauguration without getting spotted…
Or Kak someone in a cell in a secure NYPD facility. Or leave pallets of bricks before an Antifa riot. Or be an Antifa rioter.
Yet amazingly, they were tracking Jan. 6. Rally attendees based on gas purchases and cell phone pings… and three years later kicking in their doors.
But no one had tape of a hammer wielding ass-pirate sneaking into the Pelosi home or a kid with an AR scaling a building all Ninja-like in Pennsylvania.
Should I go on?
The surveillance is only as good as the people controlling the cameras and the data afterwards…
And do any of us trust any of them?
Ah hahahahhaha….
Sirhr
Oh and has anyone heard from our recent Delta force Devgru CIA sniper tier one assassin lately? The one with the bong who works at Chipotle? He had his meeting with his recruiter Monday! And not a word since!
You don’t suppose that the recruiter took one look at his wicked good Shaolin Monk assassin skills and they just put him right to work that day!
I mean isn’t that how they do it in the movies??
“let’s get him!”
This movie cracks me up….
Sirhr
You don’t suppose that the recruiter took one look at his wicked good Shaolin Monk assassin skills and they just put him right to work that day!
I mean isn’t that how they do it in the movies??
“let’s get him!”
This movie cracks me up….
Sirhr
You can't recognize a face in which not enough features are visible. Shades, facemasks, makeup, ballcaps, etc used in combination are cheap tools that defeat AI FR.
The clothing and MO are not ironclad evidence, but pretty close.
OTOH his "graph" could be made in 30 seconds with Excel by anyone, including himself.
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Well armed, very motivated individual who lost a family member due to non-coverage of treatment. And they will never find him.
Seeing some wearing a mask in a lib city isn’t uncommon since they are still scared of the vid
Professional…Not. But, his commitment is impressive.
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If he had been a pro, would he have put a couple in the head?
Chest shots aren’t definite.
Ask Don Corleone.
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Chest shots aren’t definite.
Ask Don Corleone.
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And if you’re going to use a Welrod, why drop three empties and three live rounds on the sidewalk at the scene ?
Sorry. Thought everyone could see the sarcasm
I've been seeing the msm pull down the actual video and just keeping the screen capture of the front end of the video. I think I posted up the video earlier and it's "no longer available"......
Not to say that it can't be found somewhere, but I'm seeing the msm pull their usual bullshit and pulling the complete video back.
LOL.."pussy for shooting him in the back"...Curious, what do you think of airstrikes and pilots?
Pretty sure that's the point.It's pretty humorous reading so many posts about "cans are illegal in NY". Last I checked, so is murder...didn't seem to be much of a deterrent.
What about the HeRoS who serve no knock warrants.
Irrelevant. (ETA: Not doing your job and taking shortcuts to avoid personal risk is not comparable to doing your job in the most efficient and risk mitigating manner.)
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I read somewhere that they tracked him to central park, he fled there on an e-bike. Assuming that large backpack had a change of clothes, I'm betting it's reasonable that he was able to leave the park by blending in with others, and then leaving the city. Also, assuming that this guy is a 'professional', i don't think it would be a stretch that he might have known thin areas of coverage, or vulnerabilities....but I might just be giving him more credit than he deserves.
There's not a clear picture of the weapon that i've seen, but i wonder if it was a bit like my beretta m9, with the suppressor on, the sights are worthless. If he was closer, it wouldn't have mattered, but the guy was just far enough away it did.
I heard that, interesting. Like Joe got him a 9mm and a silencer, Youtubed that silencers needed subsonic rounds to "work". Got some subsonic rounds but Youtubed that subs won't cycle with a standard recoil spring. Practiced manual cycling. Went and did the job, three rounds, manual cycle. Except this pistol did cycle. So, three empties and three rounds on the ground. And found out that killing someone isn't as smooth and easy as it looks in the movies so got in a hurry.
Unless the brass, rounds, coffee cup, phone and bike are plants.
I'll take things that make you go Hmmm for $20, Alex.
Didn't see the video. Scrubbed by the time I tried.
Thank you,
MrSmith
Yeah, I've been scratching my chin a little about the "plants" aspect. But, us plebes will never know the true facts.
I did see the complete video. He did manually cycle the slide on each of three shots to eject the spent brass. I wonder why, if someone is going to go to that effort, why wouldn't he police his brass ?
As far as the three live rounds that were found, I have no idea. That makes zero sense. I mean, like ZERO sense.
I'm guessing the pistol did cycle then his manual cycling ejected and then chambered live rounds. Only possible I see for that number of live on the ground.
Thank you,
MrSmith
Thank you,
MrSmith
Dead trigger that failed to reset isn't uncommon on P80 builds.
Oh that’s different
. As a pilot I can speak first hand on that. Death from above is widely accepted.Yeah....I always laughed when the media propaganda people called terrorists who planted IEDs "cowards" while we were calling in airstrikes. Also, learning to conduct demo ambushes in the 18C course is considered a good tactic, so I guess we are cowards too!Oh that’s different
The video is still here on telegram.
Not scrubbed.
But you would have to probably download the app.
Not scrubbed.
But you would have to probably download the app.
This would be my guess too. Insurance company screwed over a family member. If he was a pro he would have walked up to the body and put one in his head.
More mystery. The shells were left behind to convey a message, which was written on them.
www.dailymail.co.uk
Revealed: Link between bullets used to kill Brian Thompson and book
Brian Thompson, 50, was shot in the calf and chest early on Wednesday by a masked man who appeared to be waiting for him outside the Hilton hotel.
Combat or killing should be about as fair as clubbing baby seals. It’s not a Marquess of Queensbury rules boxing match or Hamilton v. Burr duel. Use every advantage. Deny your enemy any chance. Anything else gets you or your people killed. Period.
Sirhr
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And then you hesitate with the perfect opportunity.
The hooker gets shot and all hell breaks loose.
This thread is a Rorschach Ink Blot of a public killing.
“He was a pro!”
“He was a disgruntled employee!”
“He was Antifa! Look at his clothing!”
“He wore black, hooray, lots of people wear black!”
Some of y’all have never met a conspiracy theory that you didn’t enjoy.
My favorite part of this website is watching people who demand evidence in other forums through muzzle velocity, group size, timer results etc, absolutely not demand evidence in The Bear Pit.
-Stan
“He was a pro!”
“He was a disgruntled employee!”
“He was Antifa! Look at his clothing!”
“He wore black, hooray, lots of people wear black!”
Some of y’all have never met a conspiracy theory that you didn’t enjoy.
My favorite part of this website is watching people who demand evidence in other forums through muzzle velocity, group size, timer results etc, absolutely not demand evidence in The Bear Pit.
-Stan
