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Any advice for me on dealing with Gang Bangers?

#52
The King said:
It is that too - in this case though theJeep had it right. Kid and I built this over the summer for overland expedition.

It was cheaper than a Jeep because god decided to hail on it one day at the dealer. Amazing what happens to the sticker price after a few hundred dents.

200 hours of body work and 2 gallons of CARC tan Later and the fun begins.
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That's awesome.

You need to get that dog a shotgun, though.
 

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hlee said:
Am I the only one having visions of the return of Gecko45?
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No, as there was no mention whatsoever about the "special toed socks so that he could climb walls" though if he starts asking about BEING cover for his significant other whilst she assembles the multi-piece 300 W/M, I'm outta here!

:D HAaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
 
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#56
Attack dog. Nope, Im not kidding. I had been thinking about one for years. Got broken into and they only took jewelry. I knew they were coming back. Got a dog and 1 week later they broke in again. Broken window and nothing taken

A well trained dog is not dangerous nor aggressive. Just training to react to bad situations.
 
#58
The King said:
This is MS13 territory now. They moved to CO with their grow operations when we legalized because the police don't harass them so much.

They brought pro-grade assembly line style theft, prostitution, and armed robbery with them. Gun story robberies have doubled every year since legalization, and they are PRO grade hits many of them. Winch equipped vehicles pulling burglary resistant doors off, stolen trucks waiting to be loaded up, sophisticated surveillance by counter-security pro's.

Its been great.
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It isn't worth the lives of your kids. They may not come after you...they have no limits or restraint. They may go after your kids to teach you a lesson. I have seen this happen before when we had Asian gangs move into Lynn, MA. No limits to what they will do.

GET OUT since you can. I wouldn't wait the 30 days
 
#59
There are very few places in Idaho and Montana where you will escape it entirely. The rural areas are sometimes affected more than urban areas...tweakers especially like the rural homes.

I feel for you, but be careful. Our society does not reward a vigilante.
 
#64
When I had troubles I put heavy green cotton thread attached to 130db personal alarms as trip wires, the reason to use cotton thread is because it blends in and does not reflect light like wire does so it is harder to see, other than that extreme action can be taken just make sure you clean up afterwards and record every thing.
 
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Pop has a similar problem and lives in rural CO but it centers around CO’s “Urban Relocation Program”? Low income housing over run and being farmed out to rural area from the city’s? Pop is a retired Alaska state trooper and far eneough on in years that he would shoot you mid sentence if he for a second thought you were a threat. Old retired LEO and military don’t play. Don’t have the brawn anymore and quick to the gun. I am extremely sorry this is happening to you amigo. If you already have a plan to move it’s not ground worth fighting for. If it is..... Binelli M2 with 3” OO, no escape. Hell, #6 in a hallway would be brutal!
 
#68
QuickNDirty said:
Yup, methamphetamine fucks people up about as bad as they could be fucked up.

I showed you the BEST of the tweakers.

The worst usually results in dead infants because the tweaking parents fell asleep for days.
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Like a tweaker wasn’t bad eneough, now mix in some heroin. Seems to be the latest along the boarder states.
 
#73
If you are thinking there might be a home invasion type thing either with or without you.
Look into a professional level Flash Fog system with a dedicated battery backup & the fastest fill rate you can, then install that on the first floor level (assuming you will either be gone or upstairs & the dog will be with you at all times).

Set the Flash fog system to be linked to your security system & armed while you are away & then have a remote activation switch a few places upstairs as well as along your escape route from the downstairs to the upstairs.

Then get a bunch of the highest output lasers in the 445nm wavelength you can from China, make sure to get some good protective glasses for yourself & your dog.
Get creative setting them up at eye level angles over the downstairs and have them setup to be automatically pulse once activated till deactivated. Keep one or two for handheld.

Hook up a couple speakers set to play alternating super loud low bass with high pitched wailing as loud and high as you can go.

Get some big buckets of small ball bearings and have them all around the house with remote tip activators.

For extra fun, if you have wood or tile stairs, coat them in play fire foam as well as randomly over the rest of the place, with a few remote igniters.

It will be a fair bit of planning & preparation, but if you do it right, none of the home invaders will make it to the stairwell to follow you.
 
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#75
Some of you guys have some creative minds and more money for legal fees than I do.

Things I did do:
-More cameras
-lethal force insurance
-Difficult obstacle on only approach at night, covered by a camera

I don’t think I’m in the “it’s personal” zone with these folks - I’m in the HVT for theft zone. I don’t think they would target my kids, but thankfully they are adults in their own right and well armed and trained. And they know about the threat and are taking it very seriously. I couldn’t ask for more.

Plan A? Leave this place and get out of the local AO for these crooks.

I get the double benefit of moving somewhere that isnt completely disgustingly full of people that have replaced accomplishment in life with weed, and meaningful employment with robbery.
 
#76
OK, Perps have the advantage of suprise and timing. Best bet is to get out of Dodge. If you have to confront them it, there is no way it’s going to be a win for you. Court, Gang Retribution etc, just not a pretty picture. If you cant move, harden the house. Look into something like Ring (Video Surveillance Camera’s, Doorbell etc). So you can see live what’s going on and watch the car. Security doors, Smash Resistant Window film, Metal Door Frames etc. If you reload, you can always leave some rounds that you are going to dispose of in the car that are not quite to SAAMI spec. SSS is often given as advice, but I can’t condone it. Best advice is to move to a better local ASAP if you feel you are in danger.
 
#77
Sometimes I lay in bed and think about dark shit, like the type of shit I would do if someone ever came after my family...

There are compounds (liquids form) that are obtainable with little effort, that if a single drop were to come in contact with your skin, you wouldn't notice a thing...for a few months. Then you would slowly go into renal failure, and die a most miserable f'ing death. It happened not too many years ago, to a very nice female professor I knew. And the drop actually landed on her latex glove, went through the glove, and she died some months later. She knew she was f'd the minute it hit her glove, but there wassn't anything that could be done to stop it.

now go lay in bed...
 
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#78
Motion activated lights worked for me , but that was for standard
criminals not ms whatever beaner gangs . Hardened access points
as well , fake cameras everywhere with a couple of real ones , battery
backup and remote phone access .

Wouldn’t it be fun to hire some South African contractors to do neighbourhood
watch . Those guys are funny , and seem to have a historical dislike of hood rats .
 
#79
I feel badly that your situation is as dire as it sounds. The tweaker comment was spot on though. I live on a ranch on the OK/TX border, we find these idiots trying to set up camp on the creek frequently. They need the water to make the meth I was told, the 6 Great Pyrenees do a decent job at keeping the low lifes out, but now and then they are escorted off the land with a rifle pointed at them. Sad state of affairs we have become, enjoy life after the move and until then, be vigilant and safe!!
 
#80
Arlo Pro - battery operated wifi camera that can ping your phone when there is motion or sound (sound level is adjustable). It's a good early warning system as long as they don't cut your internet cable. And yes, GTFO.
 
#81
Or Turn the tables, gather data on them and hand it to the powers that be, Then let the Gov do the clean up where they have the power to do what they like, but get the intel first. that way your hands are clean and it all gets done by the book.
 
#82
You know, one of my friends Grandpa used to have a hot fence that plugged into 110 around his corn patch. Poor old raccoons never got the chance to learn how to defeat that one. Of course he was quiet adamant that none of the kids get around it after dark.
 
#84
BBGunny said:
Sometimes I lay in bed and think about dark shit, like the type of shit I would do if someone ever came after my family...

There are compounds (liquids form) that are obtainable with little effort, that if a single drop were to come in contact with your skin, you wouldn't notice a thing...for a few months. Then you would slowly go into renal failure, and die a most miserable f'ing death. It happened not too many years ago, to a very nice female professor I knew. And the drop actually landed on her latex glove, went through the glove, and she died some months later. She knew she was f'd the minute it hit her glove, but there wassn't anything that could be done to stop it.

now go lay in bed...
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Dimethylmecury isn't exactly easy to come by. That's scorched Earth policy

OP has a plan to move, not kill the next tennants and the ones after that.
 
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#85
My heart goes out to you, King. I've been down this road before and it looks like you've taken a realistic look at the end game. Get the fuck out.

In my situation I lived in an expensive re-gentrified neighborhood surrounded by the da hood. I went from an elaborate security system and calling the police to doing everything I could to not have any warning system for them (removed the motion activated lights, barking dogs stayed elsewhere...) and appearing as if I was not home (house dark, no car in driveway,...) so that I could have every encounter possible. I won every skirmish. It became an unquenchable obsession. Then I went out to find them in alley ways... I'll stop there. For a great deal of expended energy there was zero gain.

There is no good outcome if you are on your own. There are more of them than you and they don't have anything better to do. I'm guessing your neighbors are not the type to make a semi-organized stand. Unless your local LE are like minded you will wind up being their target and the gang-bangers will be the victims. If things get to the media we all know how they will play it (his friends recalling the aspiring artist, the reverend barking about how they were just turning their life around, wailing family members doting over the corpse of a loving father...). No matter what insurance you have and what laws are on your side the legal system will grind you down. Consider that some of these animals and their family may be in a future jury pool.

Move and live your life in a better place with better people.
 
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#86
alfack said:
Whatever you decide, do not rely on the police for help. One of the reasons I moved to Idaho is the degradation of the old hood and the low-life scum moving in.
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Plenty of time to fuck with people going to and from work. Pussies won't go after the criminals. Gotta keep the tax payers ininr.
Why do we need them? No duty to protect anyone but they will throw you in jail if you don't have a permission slip to go with your pistol.
 
#87
SethJ said:
I'd MOVE if my neighborhood ever got as bad as what you talking about.
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Moving is a short term solution to a long term problem. I understand the thinking an can relate if you have family. However at some point there will be no place to move to that is safer, then what? Until we an I mean "WE, the public" deal with it, nothing will change. We had 8 years of ass wipe leadership that empowered them. The present leadership is moving like 85/140 gear oil at -20*F. If those in charge will not do anything, an the cops will not do anything, then the time has come for retribution at the hands of those being fucked over by the system, as well as the gangs.
 
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#89
Colorado has gone to hell in a hand basket since the legalization of pot. Just not the Front Range being affected but most parts as well. Go to the San Juans in SW CO on a regular basis and Durango once a nice little mountain town is going down the tube. Problem is politicians won't due anything since they are addicted to the tax revenue.

Live in a rural area and experienced a string of burglaries around the farms when a junkie was paroled from the state pen. Sheriff knew who was doing it but said he was an informant so wouldn't arrest him. Local folks decided to take care of it by informing him if he didn't leave the area he would be floating down the Rio Grande face down. One of the farmers hooked his tractor to his mobile home and dragged it into a ditch totaling it. He got the message and left.

Daughter is an Asst DA i n ABQ and they have a serious problem related to drug gangs and meth. Illegals are behind most of it yet the fucking politicians declare the city a sanctuary city and then complain about the crime.

Get out as soon as you can. These people are animals and no good will come out of it in a confrontation. If you take one out you could possibly be subject to criminal and civil action depending on the political persuasion of the local DA and well as possible retribution from the bangers.
 
#90
Gunfighter14e2 said:
Moving is a short term solution to a long term problem. I understand the thinking an can relate if you have family. However at some point there will be no place to move to that is safer, then what? Until we an I mean "WE, the public" deal with it, nothing will change. We had 8 years of ass wipe leadership that empowered them. The present leadership is moving like 85/140 gear oil at -20*F. If those in charge will not do anything, an the cops will not do anything, then the time has come for retribution at the hands of those being fucked over by the system, as well as the gangs.
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Agree, but there is nothing wrong with living in a safer place until "the time has come". Even the military tries to maintain a buffer between their fixed bases and the known battle grounds.
 
#91
To be clear, I'm not running from the crime. I'm running from the liberal douchebagville that made this happen.

The people who will send trigger happy cops to arrest me or kill me in case I defend myself, and the people who will scream as loudly as possible for the death penalty if I dared shoot pants-dragger the face-tatoo billboard for raping the one kid over the dead body of the other.
 
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#93
W54/XM-388 said:
If you are thinking there might be a home invasion type thing either with or without you.
Look into a professional level Flash Fog system with a dedicated battery backup & the fastest fill rate you can, then install that on the first floor level (assuming you will either be gone or upstairs & the dog will be with you at all times).

Set the Flash fog system to be linked to your security system & armed while you are away & then have a remote activation switch a few places upstairs as well as along your escape route from the downstairs to the upstairs.

Then get a bunch of 10w lasers in the 445nm wavelength from China, make sure to get some good protective glasses for yourself & your dog.
Get creative setting them up at eye level angles over the downstairs and have them setup to be automatically pulse once activated till deactivated. Keep one or two for handheld.

Hook up a couple speakers set to play alternating super loud low bass with high pitched wailing as loud and high as you can go.

Get some big buckets of small ball bearings and have them all around the house with remote tip activators.

For extra fun, if you have wood or tile stairs, coat them in play fire foam as well as randomly over the rest of the place, with a few remote igniters.

It will be a fair bit of planning & preparation, but if you do it right, none of the home invaders will make it to the stairwell to follow you.
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also be sure to lay out some toy cars and light bulbs under your windows....

hang some paint cans from your rafters...

and dont forget to light some fire crackers in a pan to scare them away

:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
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#96
King
I am in the Denver burbs (Lakewood) What neighborhood are you in?
My GF lives in Congress Park and I feel that place is ripe for pickin. Mostly libs who couldnt fight back if they tried.

Best wishes and be safe brother.
 
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