Any FN SPR owners out there?

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Quarter Horse</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Daniel, is that one of the A2s from Mike at Tactical Coord.?</div></div>

Yep I got it from mike. It's the A2 with the DBM and a fluted barrel. I haven't shot it yet, but just from messing around with it, it's a top notch, and very well built rifle.
 
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Has anyone had a poor shooting SPR with the chrome lined barrel? I'm tempted to pick one up for F-T/R rather than build something. And the added life from the chrome lining who be a pretty sweet bonus.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Marksman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Has anyone had a poor shooting SPR with the chrome lined barrel? I'm tempted to pick one up for F-T/R rather than build something. And the added life from the chrome lining who be a pretty sweet bonus. </div></div>

I have a 308 and a 300wsm, both have been good. The 300 shoots tighter than can be believed with 190's bergers and the 308 will do 1/2 to 3/4 moa depending on my day and ammo used. I am sure it would shoot tighter if I made a load for it rather than using loads in it tuned for my other 308's, got too many. Where you at in Michigan? Shoot me a PM, I may be able to make you a deal...
 
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Are they still making these? That picture with the "Made in VA" stamp makes it appear so. They are getting hard to find and I assumed they were out of production. I would really like to see a LA model or an A-5 model with the non-saddle adj cheekpiece.
 
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FYI, my 2 FN SPRs. In front is an A1 in .308 and in the back is an A2 in 300 WSM. Both have 6.5 X 20 Mark 4 Scopes mounted.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Marksman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Has anyone had a poor shooting SPR with the chrome lined barrel? I'm tempted to pick one up for F-T/R rather than build something. And the added life from the chrome lining who be a pretty sweet bonus.</div></div>

I would get one if the price is right. (Im not a big fan of paying retail if I don't have to...) I got a killer deal on mine(FN a5) NIB off gb. The deals always show up if you can hang in there
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Most will say the triggers are a bit heavy, but that wasn't a big deal to me. Mine supposedly breaks around 4.5lbs, and so far it hasn't been an issue for accuracy so I won't bother fixing what ain't broke...

My a5 shoots consistent .5 and better groups at 100 yds, its easiest barrel I've ever cleaned and from the FN literature, they tested 10k rounds and still achieved the .5 moa accuracy from the a3g (same chrome lining as in all models)

All SPR rifles have the same barreled action (except some cosmetic differences and length...and the caliber of course). Some are fluted barrels, parkerized (a3g), and some are non fluted. The real difference is the stocks (a3 vs a5) and the glass bedding on the a3g. The a5m is skim bedded but that about sums up the differences in models.

This info (with regard to barreled actions) comes straight from a call I made to FN some time back.

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My experience is the exact opposite with the FN SPR rifles. I bought a new A3G with a .3" 3-shot group factory target. It wouldn't shoot less than 1.25" 5-shot groups no matter what. 3-shots in less than .5" all the time but the other 2 shots were always fliers. I changed scopes, lightened the trigger to 1.5lbs. I used Fed GM ammo, Blackhills Match, handloads. torqued all the screws, bolts, nuts to the proper settings. Other shooters tried it, nothing worked.

Sent it back and got a new replacement from FN and not much better. Same ammo and still no where close to .5moa. the smallest group I got today was just over .75moa. most of the 9 groups were hovering around 1moa for 5 shot groups. The frustrating part isn't the group size but the uncalled fliers. Some groups have 3 or 4 shots in less than .3moa but 1 or 2 shots always open it up.

As a sanity check, i shot my Savage 10FP in 223 and got 2x .4moa groups. I'm gonna lighten the A3G trigger and replace the scope (6.5-20x50 MK4 LR/T TMR) with a MK4 ERT TMR (8.5-25x50) and see what happens...
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Long Shot Mofo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My experience is the exact opposite with the FN SPR rifles. I bought a new A3G with a .3" 3-shot group factory target. It wouldn't shoot less than 1.25" 5-shot groups no matter what. 3-shots in less than .5" all the time but the other 2 shots were always fliers. I changed scopes, lightened the trigger to 1.5lbs. I used Fed GM ammo, Blackhills Match, handloads. torqued all the screws, bolts, nuts to the proper settings. Other shooters tried it, nothing worked.

Sent it back and got a new replacement from FN and not much better. Same ammo and still no where close to .5moa. the smallest group I got today was just over .75moa. most of the 9 groups were hovering around 1moa for 5 shot groups. The frustrating part isn't the group size but the uncalled fliers. Some groups have 3 or 4 shots in less than .3moa but 1 or 2 shots always open it up.

As a sanity check, i shot my Savage 10FP in 223 and got 2x .4moa groups. I'm gonna lighten the A3G trigger and replace the scope (6.5-20x50 MK4 LR/T TMR) with a MK4 ERT TMR (8.5-25x50) and see what happens... </div></div>

yours sounds like a bedding issue. did you get a whole new rifle? or a new barrel on old rifle? have the bedding checked out to make sure there are no weird pressures any where. They might have stuck a new barreled action in the old stock without re-bedding?? I am curious to hear of your findings, please keep us informed.

Also, you may already know, but the a3g is supposed to be fully bedded with an inch or so of the barrel bedded in front of the receiver. all other spr's were spot bedded for the recoil lug & rear tang.
 
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looks like I got a 'different' rifle. It is properly bedded. the number imprinted on the bedding is the same as on the receiver. The barrel is beded for a good 2". No pillar though. One would think a $2500 rifle would have pillars...

It looks like a bad crown. I marked up the muzzle with permanent marker. slide a 45 degree crown cutter and pilot and did a soft 'wipe' and only a very small portion of the marked up area at the 12 o'clock position was touched. Same tool on my Remington pencil barrel & SAvage wiped 360 degress so it ain'the tool.

Bad crown job seems very common. It baffles me why the rifle makers don't pay more attention to the crown. I had to send back a Savage 10FP 223 twice to get it right. My Armalite AR10T, AR15T, SW 41, Winchster Stealth 2 all had bad crowns.

i'm gonna recrown it and see what happens after that. Not sure if I should worry about the hard chrome tho. This is absolutely frustrating... especially after factory replacement.

Anther thing, the A3G is guaranteed to shoot 1/2MOA 5-shot groups. Why does the factory show you a 3-shot group? the first rifle had a 4-shot group with the flier marked 'shooter error'. in reality it shot exactly the same group shape/size as the factory target, 1.25moa and never less!!

My search for 'the one' continues...
 
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I would also check were the bolt handle stops on a closed bolt, One of my smiths does a TON of work with FNs and he says that is the biggest problem with the bad shooters, the bolt handle will rub when closed doing just what you say, unexplained flyers.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jcwarrior87</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would also check were the bolt handle stops on a closed bolt, One of my smiths does a TON of work with FNs and he says that is the biggest problem with the bad shooters, the bolt handle will rub when closed doing just what you say, unexplained flyers. </div></div>

excellent point. I have 2 FN's and both had to be very slightly relieved to allow the bolt handle to go down 100% and have zero contact with stock.
 
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Been running an FN A5M in since 2007 in competition. (.308)
It has been very competitive and reliable.
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It is a .25 MOA gun.

As far as things that I don't like, my only gripe is the original magazine system.
The new A5M mag system is outstanding though.
(Can't wait till the retrofit package is available for mine.)

Here are some recommendations that I would have to anyone looking to purchase a new FN SPR.
- If at all possible, get one with the new magazine system.
- Make sure that you are getting one that was manufactured after they moved the plant from New Haven, CT to Columbia, SC.
- Have the rifle bedded. (My rifle went from .510 MOA to .252 MOA after being bedded.)
- If you plan on using this rifle in adverse conditions, get it coated.
I had mine Moly Resin coated and Dipped after a match that was held during a monsoon.
(Chasing rust is not fun…)
- If you plan on making your own ammo, plan on not being able to get close to the lands.

The head of the FN SPR program is a user here on "The Hide" and is very approachable if you have any questions.
(User Name: Action Guy, Actual Name: Ben Voss)

Hope this information helps you out.
 
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Thanks for the info on the bolt handle and Ben Voss as a contact. I'm going to check the bolt handle thing and do some more shooting with 2 more Leupold Mark4 scopes to make sure it's not me or the scope.

I'll report back when I have some more data.
 
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I picked an A2 up from Mike at www.taccord.com. He is a good guy and the first 8 groups I have fired, with 168GMM have been .51(best) to .78 (worst) moa at 100yd. This is off a bipod. I am a novice bolt gun shooter so I'm probably leaving some accuracy on the table.

Dr. Phil, what is your cleaning regimen for your rifle?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MEK</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dr. Phil, what is your cleaning regimen for your rifle? </div></div>
I wipe down the rifle, bolt, and chamber.
Then run a bore snake through it after I'm done for the day.
It seems to shoot better fouled.

The only time I scrub the bore is when accuracy falls off or I just feel that it has been too long.
Speaking of, it is about time...
(Haven't scrubbed the bore in almost 1K rounds.)

One other thing worth mentioning.
I did use the Tubb Final Finish & TMS bullets on the bore when it was new.
After doing so, the bore cleaned much easier and my loads were about 100 fps faster.
(The Tubb system is somewhat controversial around here, so take it for what its worth…)
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MEK</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What are you putting on your bore snake before you pull it through? </div></div>I hit the leading edge of the bore snake just before the bristles with Super Quick Clean Guns.
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http://www.superquickcleanguns.com/html/productinfo.html
I had picked some Super QCG up on a whim and have come to really like it for general purpose gun cleaning.
It doesn't have any odor and works better that any other CLP type product that I have used.

I use a few other specialty product for other things though:
- Slip 2000 EWL or Mobile-1, 50 weight synthetic for the Bolt Carrier Group on all my AR platforms.
- CAT M4TOOL is a life saver when it come to cleaning the BCG of any DI AR platform.
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=31857/Product/AR-15-M16-CAT-M4TOOL
- Miltec-1 as a go to lube for most things.
- Miltec-1 grease for the locking lugs on my bolt guns.
- Boretech Eliminator is used when I intend on doing a thorough cleaning of any bore.
- Shooter's Choice Lead Remover for removing lead fouling from 12 gauge rifled slugs or cast bullets.
- Hornady One Shot Gun Cleaner-Degreaser and Dry Lubricant is an essential tool to keep a Ruger 10/22 running without having to clean it every 500 rounds or so.
Just spray some in through the magazine well and wipe dry every 800 - 1,000 rounds.
After that, you only need to do a regular cleaning after 5-10 thousand rounds.

That more information that you were looking for, but I figured I would share.
It took me quite a few years to find products that worked the way I needed them too.
More importantly, ones that didn't offend my wife with their odor.
(Hoppes #9 is near and dear to my heart, but unwelcome in my house.)
 
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I just picked up an FN SPR A5M and went with the SWFA SS HD 5-20.

What size rings do you recommend for that type of set up? And which brand?
 
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I own 3 and can't complain (A1, A2, A5M)...unless I come to the point where I know I'm outshooting the rifle's capabilities, I don't see why I'd need to go to a different brand or modify them any further.

Customer support is just awesome and I do like the option of adding a different bottom metal assembly to run AI mags for example. I have the CDI version on my A5M.

Thumbs up!
 
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I had this A2 worked on by Dana English. http://englishrifles.com/index.html

Dana cut the barrel to 24", threaded it and indexed an AAC suppressor adapter. He bedded the action and finally he installed the CDI bottom metal. It deserves a better scope than I have on it. It is a great stick. Dana made a safe queen into a favorite.

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I had this A2 worked on by Dana English. English Rifles - Precision Gunsmithing

Dana cut the barrel to 24", threaded it and indexed an AAC suppressor adapter. He bedded the action and finally he installed the CDI bottom metal. It deserves a better scope than I have on it. It is a great stick. Dana made a safe queen into a favorite.

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What optic is that?
 
Quick question for you guys shooting the FN rifles (A1, A5M, etc.)...

I'm a lefty. I intend to purchase a right-handed action, but I'm wondering what the deal is with the McMillan stocks on these. It appears as though they are cut such that they would feel the same with your left or right hand. Is that correct?

Also, what about the adjustable cheek piece on the A3G and A5M - can you just put the screw through the other way if you're shooting it left handed?

Many thanks.
 
I'm a lefty. I intend to purchase a right-handed action, but I'm wondering what the deal is with the McMillan stocks on these. It appears as though they are cut such that they would feel the same with your left or right hand. Is that correct?

Correct. I can't help you out with the cheekpiece question though, I bought an A1 model specifically because it didn't come with a cheekpiece. I'm planning on sending mine off to have KMW loggerhead adjustable hardware installed.
 
Correct. I can't help you out with the cheekpiece question though, I bought an A1 model specifically because it didn't come with a cheekpiece. I'm planning on sending mine off to have KMW loggerhead adjustable hardware installed.

Thanks for the quick response. Much appreciated.

Now that I've got my main question answered, anyone out there that can cover the cheek piece part?
 
Thanks for the quick response. Much appreciated.

Now that I've got my main question answered, anyone out there that can cover the cheek piece part?

Hey mate,

There is a gentleman here on the Hide by the name "Stockdoc", he ( Joe ) has just done the KMW Loggerhead install for me on my McMillan A3.
I only just received it back on Monday, the fit and finish is extremely professional and cannot be fault... It looks as if it had come from the factory that way.

His communication and service was precise with a quick turn around. If you have not noticed I reside in Sydney, Australia.

I highly recommend "Stockdoc" , you will be very pleased with his wizardry.

I will post some pics in the next day or so.
 
Hey mate,

There is a gentleman here on the Hide by the name "Stockdoc", he ( Joe ) has just done the KMW Loggerhead install for me on my McMillan A3.
I only just received it back on Monday, the fit and finish is extremely professional and cannot be fault... It looks as if it had come from the factory that way.

His communication and service was precise with a quick turn around. If you have not noticed I reside in Sydney, Australia.

I highly recommend "Stockdoc" , you will be very pleased with his wizardry.

I will post some pics in the next day or so.

Thanks for the info. I will be sure to look him up when I'm in the market for stock work!