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I think the guy is legit, definitely no substitute for actual training and range time but a good resource nonetheless. He definitely has some preferences on equipment and techniques but there's no doubt he's put a lot of lead down range. He just posted a video of 3 rounds in the same hole https://youtu.be/r63NXuVO8ac
When I go to the range, I film about 2 hours of video each trip. That gets edited down to 5 minutes, maybe I make two 5 minute videos from a single day, that means I have about 1 hour and 50 minutes worth of video that you guys never see. If I used that unseen video and put a voice over track on it, I could make a new video every single day. Sure the video would be you watching me shoot at a target, or turning a knob, or writing something down, but at the end of day, it would just be a highlight video with me talking over it. Great for content but bad for showing you something more than me shooting and hitting shit.
I think the guy is legit, definitely no substitute for actual training and range time but a good resource nonetheless. He definitely has some preferences on equipment and techniques but there's no doubt he's put a lot of lead down range. He just posted a video of 3 rounds in the same hole https://youtu.be/r63NXuVO8ac
The series is called Sniper 101, 101 would indicate that it is just the basics and he even states this. I have never heard him say he is training SpecOp Hard target Interdiction classes, again just the basics. So people should not expect more than that from him, his goal is just to give out free training online. I would rather learn from someone that read the army handbook than those other gun channels on YouTube who's only sniping experience is shooting prairie dogs. Yes he has classes you can pay for which I have not gone through so I have no clue what type of information he gives there, but if people pay him then I can't blame him for charging that much, and who knows maybe there's good info there. He apparently has many guest speakers including professional long range shooters and former military guys.
Him never being in the military as a sniper does not bother me. I remember watching the SOFREP podcast on YouTube featuring Robert O'Neill the SEAL sniper who killed Osama, and he says he never even bothered learning coriolus. So if someone knows their stuff they know their stuff and they don't need any credentials to prove it. That being said there are some things that even me as a beginner that I see massive issues with. For example he has some weird fetish with low power optics. He recommends people 10x and 12x's at the MAX... He needs to understand for a beginner having that low of an optic can be frustrating and cause enough grief for people to completely quit the hobby. He discondes optics over 16x most of the time to people asking him for ELR scopes. There was the whole thing were he made a video response to low light, which was kind of childish and really did not warrant a video. But there's no reason to hate the guy for just that. Also he does not shoot far all things considered, the longest shot I recall seeing from him was 1700 yards and his average shooting seems to be done under 1200.
So he is a good channel for the basics, but for more advanced earning I would watch other channels like Lowlight, and MarkandSam. My synopsis is feel free to listen to his series but understand some things he is heavily bias on like low power optics. Then move on to more advanced lessons like Snipers Hide videos and compare, contrast, and get rid of some things you learned in Sniper 101 as the info is dated. I have only watched around 10 of the videos, but without them I would have bought some crappy SFP MOA BDC scope. So at least he seems like a genuine nice guy and is drawing people into this sport to progress it.
LOL
He never bothered to Learn Coriolis ... really
That is because it's a non issue, the USMC doesn't use it or Spin Drift, in fact they had it removed from the original software they used. Both Coriolis and Spin Drift are exaggerated for effect by almost everyone who talks about it. Take the 1000 yard number and cut it in 1/2 and you would be closer to correct.
Coriolis is equal to about 15fps of SD in your load, in other words, it's unnecessary to worry about it.
But there is some creative editing and wildly old information being put forward. It's not about "hating" the guy, we don't know each other. But it is about people embracing the series as something more than they are. Or paying real money to take a seminar from a person. Especially when you can hit a Litz seminar for less more, more information and course material given out to you. His guest speaker was James Yeager if I saw the article correctly, so what James Yeager know about Long Range Shooting ? The farther you run from a threat the longer the range is ...
At 1K, spin drift for 208 Amax from my windmag is 0.2 mil, for my 308 w/175 SMK, it is 0.3 mil.
Not a lot, but enough to dial for.
Check with the guy with the highest score at HR and ask him if he was allowing for spin drift. Since it was a .223 I am going to assume the wind wasn't a big factor that day. Those are 1 moa targets.
I'd be interested in getting a LH twist, who has them?Hell I have a left hand gain twist barrel and my data is the same, how is that even possible. If SD were so pronounced, we'd be shooting all left hand twist barrels again like we used too.
So...all the shooters you mention think it exists....but the scientists you mention don't....well, that clears things up nicely Frank.
I mean, what the hell would people like Litz or Tubb know about shooting? They're just a couple of rubes with the wool pulled over thier eyes. Hell, if they'd just listened to the enlightened marine then they really could have been somebody.
@ Mister Lowlight
So...I read the paper you referenced, the one from Mr. Boatwright and Mr. Ruiz. It is located here: https://www.snipershide.com/shootin...ing-yaw-of-repose-spin-drift-a-novel-approach
You wanna know what the difference between thiers and Litz's calculations was on a 175 grain SMK type bullet (which is the one I referenced in post #126) from a 308 win at 1000 yds was? It was 0.5 inches. Both methods calculate approximately 1 MOA (or 0.3 mil), give or take an inch, at 1000yds.
So that's what you've been busting balls about.... 0.5 fucking inches.
And to answer your assertion that I listen to the youtube guy....What I know about longrange shooting, rightly or wrongly in your "expert" opinion, was learned from doing it for the last 20 yrs, long before youtube existed.
What pisses you off about this guy isn't what he gets wrong, it's how much he gets right and puts out there for free. All you are doing is going to ridiculous extremes to protect your brand, and looking more and more foolish as it goes further on.
A few years ago, my PD partner and I went to an 'egg shoot' at a local range. Good training. Targets were 5 eggs at 200 yards.
In reality... a chip shot.
These guys had benchrest rifles, dialed in with hand-wheels and clamps and shot each round lovingly after, I think, caressing it with an ermine skin.
My partner and I shot off bipods, lying on the concrete pad. Using a sock bag under the rear stock. We each cleaned the eggs out in 5 shots in about 40 seconds total. Which was, in reality, slow fire. I mean... an egg at 200???
The 'bench guys' were just speechless. They were spending 2 minutes lining up one shot. And not all even hit the egg... at 200 yards, mind you.
Now if we changed to 1000 or some long distance, they'd have eaten our lunch, I am sure. Well, probably. But, seriously, some of these technicalities are just silly for precision rifle shooting.
Of course, you want to get into artillery... and, yes, when you are shooting between 20 and 60 miles... and your flight time is three minutes (see Paris Gun)... ok. There are some calculations that may come into play. I have some old artillery charts that probably apply. If you happen to be in a battleship-gun naval engagement off the Falklands in WW1 (there is a well-known example).
But Wreckedtibia or Stegosarusfeckless or whatever his name is really should stop trying to sound all mathematical.
Cheers,
Sirhr
If he is such a nothing burger, then why does it incite such fury to acknowledge someones interest and effort? This will be post #148 on this nothing topic. If I was him, I'd be laughing my ass off reading all this shit.
As I said in post #120, I wouldn't pay to learn anything from the guy, but neither do I feel it necessary to attack him.
Yes Tiborasaurusrex is legit. The proof is overwhelming on his Youtube channel, his sponsors & affiliates, not to mention the team of world class shooters he's assembled from around the world.
Believe your eyes & the math on this one
Yes Tiborasaurusrex is legit. The proof is overwhelming on his Youtube channel, his sponsors & affiliates, not to mention the team of world class shooters he's assembled from around the world.
Believe your eyes & the math on this one