Yes I agree with the threaded muzzle, fluting, the better bolt knob. The SPR is an amazing weapon. I like my A2/A4. 1/2 gun. The A5M XP is solid. Mine only shoots .75-1 MOA though. I’m disappointed. I’ve been spoiled by my A2/A4 and M24.
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Are the FN SPR enthusiasts extinct?
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I’ve never had an issue with an M40A1/A3 or M24 push feed. I actually don’t know one person who has. That’s not discounting your experience. I love the Mauser action (Pre 64 action) a lot though.
I think I've yet to meet someone with a 700 that is willing to admit they're unreliable. I once got into a fight with a guy over it. He video taped himself putting 10 rounds through his to prove it to me. There were 4 malfs. He said that's no big deal and completely normal. I agreed that it is normal.
Wasn't the M24 famous for feeding issues due to the long action and short action caliber? I've never shot one. I have shot a GAP M40A1 and that damned thing runs like a top.
Still want one of each.
I’ve not heard of anyone having issues with push feed. Many Thousands of rounds through M40’s and not seen any issues.
I’ve not heard that. It’s a very combat proven rifle. Can you post a reputable source? We don’t want any CNN fake news on here. M24 is as combat proven as anything. PSS as well. Again I like the Mauser action more but Remy action is smooth and reliable. My favorite is Winny after 64 push feed though
The M24 didn’t have feeding issues…it was the user who created feeding issues due to their complacency/incompetence when loading.
It's actually in the review of the m24 on Snipercentral. I am not "in the community" so I dont have any super secret squirrel info to share. Just repeating what I have read. I know I have heard it from other places as well. Mel at SC is speaking from personal experience tho.
I would say to use common sense here. The Remington push feed 700 action and all the copies are the most used action of all. It’s not even close. It’s a proven action for a reason. Don’t be a homer. I personally love the Mauser action (Win Pre 64) but to say the 700 action isn’t amazing is just bad. There is no need to justify a purchase by putting down another. Both are amazing. 700 is a simpler action that is the standard by which all others are judged. That’s just the way it is. I love them all.
Not putting down your or anyone's purchase. I believe I said I'd love to get a M24. I also own a remington and have owned several. The sendero I sold 10 years ago was amazingly accurate and well made. The VS has a barrel bent significantly but is the most accurate rifle I've ever owned. One day I will get a m24, a m40 A1, and I would like to get a old BDL Varmint in 22-250. All I said was I thought the M24 had feeding problems, and stated a source. Have a great day and enjoy your rifles.
FN was slow to change and left them alone too long in my opinion. They needed threaded barrels and 6.5 Creedmoor across the board.
I have been keeping a eye out for a used CDI to put in my A1. They could have even went 6.5x47 or 260 and probably sold a shit ton more.
FN didn’t really market them that hard either. At the time I bought mine, a new A5M was over $2,000. That was just a thousand short of a full blown custom at the time, and the new bottom metal wasn’t out yet so you were stuck with the factory DBM or had to send it off to CDI.
Aftermarket mods were pretty nonexistent then as well.
The SRP A1 was about 30% more than a PSS as well when I first started looking at them in 2005ish. PSS was around $900, SPR A1 was around $1200. But the SPR was in a Mcmillian, came with a excellent pic mount and had that chrome lined sub moa guarantee barrel.
The PSS was sub MOA. McMillan vs H&S. Toss up. I like SPR but let’s keep it real…. PSS is and was amazing. Sub-MOA all day.
I am doing the same thing. I can’t get this rifle to shoot with the stock McMillan. .75-1. I put the hogue on. It’s needs to be floated still. I love the look and feel. Please let us know how it shoots. Thanks
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My A5M XP shoots ok, .75moa consistently, sometimes better with Varget and 175smk’s. But IMR4895 seems to produce better groups without me trying near as hard to shoot well.
All my 308's (including my A5M XP) shoot really well with 168gr Tipped match kings and RL15 IMR4064
Consistently under 1/2 MOA.
Consistently under 1/2 MOA.
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I have posted on this on this thread. FGMM 168/175. Also, Federal AB39 (7.62 175gn Match). Shoot the same. The gun just doesn’t shoot as good as I would expect from an FN SPR. My A2/A4 is 1/2 MOA and M24 is 1/4 MOA pretty consistently.
Rebarrel??? That’s the easy way out. I want to get it to shoot. I am trying other things out. The hogue stock is next. I started sanding it to free float. Also, where am I going to get an FN barrel? I want to keep the chrome lined barrel.
How much better do you think it will shoot in the Hogue stock? I would think if all thinks where built properly the rifle should shoot better in your mcmillan stock. I know the a3g was bedded. Was the A5m xp?
I always thought the rubber texture on the hogue would make a great all weather rifle.
Did the A5M have a accuracy guarantee?
No idea where you could get a chrome lined barrel, but you can get a barrel melonited.
My rifle shoots like a house on fire, but I have contemplated getting it rebarreled to 25 creedmoor or 6.5x47. Wonder if a FN takeoff would index?
No idea where you could get a chrome lined barrel, but you can get a barrel melonited.
My rifle shoots like a house on fire, but I have contemplated getting it rebarreled to 25 creedmoor or 6.5x47. Wonder if a FN takeoff would index?
I seem to remember finding some literature once that showed the A5M being "guaranteed" to be sub-moa for at least 10,000 rounds with factory match ammo. The FBI A3 (with bedding done by GA Precision I believe) was basically the same barrelled action as the A5M, but it had a "guarantee" of being sub-moa for 30,000 rounds. I wonder if I saved that literature?
Regards,
Ross
I thought the A3G was guaranteed sub .5 moa? All the SPR rifles where guaranteed sub MOA for 10,000 rounds minimum.
I completely understand what you are saying and it makes sense. The A5M XP is spot bedded only. The Hogue has an aluminum bed. Someone else had mentioned FN guarantees. A3G had a 1/2 MOA and the rest of the SPR’s were 1 MOA.
I am just trying everything to get it to group. I like the feel of the hogue. I’d like to make it a hunting rifle. I have to finish opening up the barrel channel from barrel contact and torque her down and then shoot. If this doesn’t work then maybe a rebarrel would be the next option. Or maybe just be content with .75-1 MOA
The hogue stock I fitted on my A5M XP has a built-in full length aluminum chassis, CNC'd for the SPR/PBR action based on the spec provided by FN. Desite hogue is not a big name as Mcmillan, the rigidity/fit of the stock is on par, if not better, than a fiberglass stocks with bedding. Plus I'm not a big fan for the factory bedding on my A5M XP as FN only beded the recolil lug and tang. Before I'm sending it to a gun smith to fully bed the Mcmillan, I want to try out the hogue first to see if that is going to be a lower cost solution.
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I've got an A1 and A2 that are barely under the MOA guarantee as well. Both took a considerable amount of load development to get down to .75 MOA for five shots. I think the test target for the A1 is .95". I don't remember seeing one for the A2, but I bought it NIB from a retailer.
I also have a first gen SPR with the 26" barrel and HS stock. I got it pretty well used, but not abused. I skim bedded it when I brought it home. I know that I shot a single box of 168gr FGMM when I got it, and that it was under MOA...but I don't recall being super excited about the groups. Then I tried ONE hunting handload in it...damn thing shot .419" for five shots. Loaded some more up and it'll keep that accuracy up as far as my skill level will...which diminishes to about 1 MOA at about 400 yards. It was my go-to hunting rifle the last three seasons.
I also have an M24R that would only shoot in the .9" range with factory 7.62x51 and .308 175gr FGMM...pretty frustrating. After considerable load development for that rifle though I can usually squeeze out five shots into the .4 - .5 range. That barrel is finicky as hell...literally .3gr either way and you're back close to MOA.
I am beginning to think I have a .308 curse. Everything shoots well enough to keep, but I'm not able to jump on the interwebs and brag about a 1/4 MOA rifle. I also shoot 4x5 or 5x5 for an average, so maybe that hurts me a bit too
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I also have a first gen SPR with the 26" barrel and HS stock. I got it pretty well used, but not abused. I skim bedded it when I brought it home. I know that I shot a single box of 168gr FGMM when I got it, and that it was under MOA...but I don't recall being super excited about the groups. Then I tried ONE hunting handload in it...damn thing shot .419" for five shots. Loaded some more up and it'll keep that accuracy up as far as my skill level will...which diminishes to about 1 MOA at about 400 yards. It was my go-to hunting rifle the last three seasons.
I also have an M24R that would only shoot in the .9" range with factory 7.62x51 and .308 175gr FGMM...pretty frustrating. After considerable load development for that rifle though I can usually squeeze out five shots into the .4 - .5 range. That barrel is finicky as hell...literally .3gr either way and you're back close to MOA.
I am beginning to think I have a .308 curse. Everything shoots well enough to keep, but I'm not able to jump on the interwebs and brag about a 1/4 MOA rifle. I also shoot 4x5 or 5x5 for an average, so maybe that hurts me a bit too
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I have a spr action and my takeoff a3g barrel. I had mentioned previously in the thread of having those two put together and dropping it into a mcmillan stock I also have. Was advised that the relief cut in the barrel would not line up with the action. Plan is to eventually put the original action/barrel together and turn the other action into a hunting rifle.
One of these rifles is for sale on another forum, an FN SPR A2/A4 that has caught my eye...24” .308.
Comes with a few spare mags and a low round count. Looks great
Comes with a few spare mags and a low round count. Looks great
I sent the seller a message. We’ll see what happens
Ive got a ton of BR2s, 168gr SMKs and H4895 and Varget ready to go
I have an A2/A4. I love it. She’s a beast at 18.5 Lbs. 1/2 MOA gun regularly. Full bedded.
In the Corps a Master Gunnery Sergeant chevron has a bursting Bomb between the stripes. Some call it a Pineapple. My wife asked me when I got promoted to MGySgt why they put a pineapple in the rank. So it’s kind of a trademark or tribute to her remark to put a pineapple decal on my Bolt guns…lolLike the...hahah what's the significance or you just like
