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"Assault" rifle prices since Newtown

Re: "Assault" rifle prices since Newtown

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: litehiker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

I'm personally OK with mandatory Federal gun safes. After all, you can't legally go boating without a US Coast Guard approved life jacket for each person aboard. The same should apply to firearms ownership, IMHO. No firearms ownership W/O a federally appeoved gun safe. This makes your home less likely to be burglarized for guns and prevents Columbine-type gun thefts.

I'm (barely) OK with registration of ALL firearms sales and transfers.

I say let a "transfer registration" requirement handle it over time.
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Is that you Barbra or maybe Nancy?

Fuck no!!!, What part of "Shall not be infringed" don't you get?

As Ben Franklin said "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
 
Re: "Assault" rifle prices since Newtown

Give a little here - give a little there and pretty soon you'll be giving your life blood. Hell no to all of this shit!People need to get this damned "BAN/ASSAULT" shit out of their vocabulary. Start passing out the "Second Amendment" and the "Dick Act of 1902". Read it, live it, and pass it along.
 
Re: "Assault" rifle prices since Newtown

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rainier42</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Agreed ... if that mom in CT had secured her firearms, that kid of hers would not have been able to cause the carnage he did;
</div></div>

If the mom had secured her son, she and all those kids would be alive and well today. The bane of our society isn't guns..... it's the mentally disturbed who are unidentified and untreated.
 
Re: "Assault" rifle prices since Newtown

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TriggerHappy44</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rainier42</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Agreed ... if that mom in CT had secured her firearms, that kid of hers would not have been able to cause the carnage he did;
</div></div>

If the mom had secured her son, she and all those kids would be alive and well today. The bane of our society isn't guns..... it's the mentally disturbed who are unidentified and untreated. </div></div>

You are right, but that should be a personal responsibility of the gun owner and never given to the Government. You give them the power to kick your door in and you may as well move to China or N Korea. Who would be ruling over us if it wasn’t for the farmers and common man that had weapons?
 
Re: "Assault" rifle prices since Newtown

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: coanan</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TriggerHappy44</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rainier42</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Agreed ... if that mom in CT had secured her firearms, that kid of hers would not have been able to cause the carnage he did;
</div></div>

If the mom had secured her son, she and all those kids would be alive and well today. The bane of our society isn't guns..... it's the mentally disturbed who are unidentified and untreated. </div></div>

You are right, but that should be a personal responsibility of the gun owner and never given to the Government. You give them the power to kick your door in and you may as well move to China or N Korea. Who would be ruling over us if it wasn’t for the farmers and common man that had weapons? </div></div>

Personal responsibility was implied. If we relied on the government to get involved with identification and diagnosis of the disturbed, we would live in a Fascist state. As hyper-aware our current society is about "assault weapons", they seem to be paying very little attention to the root of the problem. I don't have the answer and wouldn't even want to theorize what should be done, but family, friends and schools (if possible) have a responsibility to society to identify the stereotypical signs of dissasociate disorders and try to get that person some kind of help.

I can honestly say, I don't need or want the government to interfere in my life whatsoever.
 
Re: "Assault" rifle prices since Newtown

GUN SAFES:

We need 'em and they will likely be required. I have damned expensive firearms and keep all but one carry pistol in a 500 lb. gun safe bolted to a cement floor.

A mandatory gunsafe law will be enforced "in the breach". Get your firearms stolen W/O a gun safe and you would get fined, likely the cost of a closet safe.
LE guys find a stolen gun registered to you and find you have no safe you get fined.

Those who want no law for mandatory gun safes are asking for some other, nastier gun restriction, IMHO. A gun safe law would go a LONG way to pacify upset citizens AND keep more firearms out of the hands of criminals and mentally ill people with violent intents.
 
Re: "Assault" rifle prices since Newtown


Although they would like a buy back , I donot think they have the actual money to do it ( in the current climate ), cost would be very high .

As to closing down gun makers , that mean s nothing to them at all , they couls do that to makers of semis etc , and they would not lose any sleep ,and not cost them anything really .

You guys are lucky , to have few actual events in reguards to gun control that have already been done by others , and the facts of those are Known , ie the Canadian registion , the Aussie & British buy backs etc , none of those worked as the theorists said they would ( ie the anti-gun crowd ) .

Later Chris
 
Re: "Assault" rifle prices since Newtown

Wouldnt they be able to just go to the manufactures and collect all the warranty card information that people have sent them and they would have a good majority of gun owners information right there
 
Re: "Assault" rifle prices since Newtown

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: litehiker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">GUN SAFES:

We need 'em and they will likely be required. I have damned expensive firearms and keep all but one carry pistol in a 500 lb. gun safe bolted to a cement floor.

A mandatory gunsafe law will be enforced "in the breach". Get your firearms stolen W/O a gun safe and you would get fined, likely the cost of a closet safe.
LE guys find a stolen gun registered to you and find you have no safe you get fined.

Those who want no law for mandatory gun safes are asking for some other, nastier gun restriction, IMHO. A gun safe law would go a LONG way to pacify upset citizens AND keep more firearms out of the hands of criminals and mentally ill people with violent intents. </div></div>

That is the most retarded shit I have read all day. No need to enforce the current laws on theft of a firearms or possession of a stolen firearm? Just go about your merry way of fucking the rest of us with new legislation and more retarded gun laws because it makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside.
<span style="font-size: 17pt">I think you may be on the wrong web site. </span>

Read this and think on it real hard.
<span style="font-weight: bold">First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me--
and there was no one left to speak out for me.
~Martin Niemoller</span>

Keep enabling the government and you will soon find yourself its loyal servant without a means of defending yourself or your lost rights. You decided that giving up your rights " would go a LONG way to pacify upset citizens (ie. government politicians)"

I think you would be more at home in England or Australia.
 
Re: "Assault" rifle prices since Newtown

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Force_Multiplier</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: geevee35</div><div class="ubbcode-body">somewhat related question...does any one know how long records of current purchases are kept by the feds and by the state? Thanks</div></div>

records of specific purchases aren't kept by the federal government (at least not officially), states vary, but most states don't ever get any record.

the only record for a non NFA firearms purchase given to the federal government is the NICS check, it includes your name, DOB, place of birth, state of residence, and a physical description, along w/ the TYPE of firearm (IE: longgun, handgun, other firearm)...

yes the 4473 has you SSN, DL #, address, make, model, serial #, caliber of the firearm(s), but this info is never given to the government, unless a trace of a firearm is initiated. this info is retained by the dealer for a period of not less than 20yrs

so all that the federal government knows if that you bought a handgun (for example) on X date, and supposedly, that info is purged from NICS every 24hrs

but honestly, I don't buy it... </div></div>

ATF showed up at my door one day asking about two guns I purchased new. One was sold to a friend of a friend, a VA resident at the time that had moved to MD a year later and were questioning my selling it legally which I had a bill of sale for with his VA ID and they hadn't bothered checking to see if he ever resided in VA. The other was a M&P15-22 which eventually found it's way into the wrong hands.

The only way they could have traced them to me was the info on the forms. Whether it was submitted or they contacted the gun stores they were purchased at is beyond me. Either way they can find out who has what if you bought it new.
 
Re: "Assault" rifle prices since Newtown

As to requiring gun safes I absolutely support it. I don't think they should be allowed to peak inside but I would have no problem allowing LE to see my safe. No pictures, no writing down info, but you can look at it.

I know a lot of gun owners, even for living in the liberal are that I do. I only know a few people that have gun safes besides myself. A number of these friends have AR's, some of them own several, and most of them don't even try to hide them in the house. I think it's absolutely stupid to not at least have a basic RSC and make an attempt at not allowing your guns to be stolen. Even a cheap metal cabinet would prevent a fair amount of thefts.

The bubbas are some of the worst. I can't tell you how many peoples houses I've been in that have a wood gun cabinet with a glass door. Most of the time these cabinets are sitting in their living room right next to a window on the main floor that can be easily seen from the driveway or street at night when the lights are on. I personally know one dumbass with this exact setup that had his guns stolen. His cabinet could be seen from the street. Somebody broke in mid day and broke the glass on the cabinet with the same rock they broke the window to enter the house with.

I don't think requiring an adequate storage container is too much to ask especially considering the other options. In fact I support it. I don't think they should require everybody to have a TL rated safe but at minimum a well secured metal cabinet or even a job box designed for tools would do wonders.
 
Re: "Assault" rifle prices since Newtown

I think its a good idea for a responsible firearm owner to have a safe. However having said that I do not think that the government should have the right to demand that you have one. The government should however start vigorously prosecuting the people who violate gun laws (ie "fast and furius" and others), instead of making new laws. Period.

No NEW LAWS, how long have we been a country with laws. Why is it that after 200+ years of law making we need new gun laws every year?????? We have more gun laws in America than we do tax law or any other type of laws.
 
Re: "Assault" rifle prices since Newtown

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: redneckbmxer24</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As to requiring gun safes I absolutely support it. I don't think they should be allowed to peak inside but I would have no problem allowing LE to see my safe. No pictures, no writing down info, but you can look at it.

I know a lot of gun owners, even for living in the liberal are that I do. I only know a few people that have gun safes besides myself. A number of these friends have AR's, some of them own several, and most of them don't even try to hide them in the house. I think it's absolutely stupid to not at least have a basic RSC and make an attempt at not allowing your guns to be stolen. Even a cheap metal cabinet would prevent a fair amount of thefts.

The bubbas are some of the worst. I can't tell you how many peoples houses I've been in that have a wood gun cabinet with a glass door. Most of the time these cabinets are sitting in their living room right next to a window on the main floor that can be easily seen from the driveway or street at night when the lights are on. I personally know one dumbass with this exact setup that had his guns stolen. His cabinet could be seen from the street. Somebody broke in mid day and broke the glass on the cabinet with the same rock they broke the window to enter the house with.

I don't think requiring an adequate storage container is too much to ask especially considering the other options. In fact I support it. I don't think they should require everybody to have a TL rated safe but at minimum a well secured metal cabinet or even a job box designed for tools would do wonders.</div></div>

How arrogant & naive can you possibly be? You have no problem with more govt regulation & more burdens on law abiding gun owners, you may as well bow down to your master & lick their boots? When does it stop?
The gun grabbers surely aren't going to stop till we are completely disarmed, give an inch they will take a mile!
Wake the fuck up!
 
Re: "Assault" rifle prices since Newtown

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JGrelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: redneckbmxer24</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As to requiring gun safes I absolutely support it. I don't think they should be allowed to peak inside but I would have no problem allowing LE to see my safe. No pictures, no writing down info, but you can look at it.

I know a lot of gun owners, even for living in the liberal are that I do. I only know a few people that have gun safes besides myself. A number of these friends have AR's, some of them own several, and most of them don't even try to hide them in the house. I think it's absolutely stupid to not at least have a basic RSC and make an attempt at not allowing your guns to be stolen. Even a cheap metal cabinet would prevent a fair amount of thefts.

The bubbas are some of the worst. I can't tell you how many peoples houses I've been in that have a wood gun cabinet with a glass door. Most of the time these cabinets are sitting in their living room right next to a window on the main floor that can be easily seen from the driveway or street at night when the lights are on. I personally know one dumbass with this exact setup that had his guns stolen. His cabinet could be seen from the street. Somebody broke in mid day and broke the glass on the cabinet with the same rock they broke the window to enter the house with.

I don't think requiring an adequate storage container is too much to ask especially considering the other options. In fact I support it. I don't think they should require everybody to have a TL rated safe but at minimum a well secured metal cabinet or even a job box designed for tools would do wonders.</div></div>

How arrogant & naive can you possibly be? You have no problem with more govt regulation & more burdens on law abiding gun owners, you may as well bow down to your master & lick their boots? When does it stop?
The gun grabbers surely aren't going to stop till we are completely disarmed, give an inch they will take a mile!
Wake the fuck up! </div></div>

Did I hit a nerve?

Requiring adequate gun storage is not too much to ask. It's a responsibility gun owners should take upon themselves but most don't. Look at how many stolen guns are used in crimes. It's a solution to the real problem unlike any sort of a ban. If somebody is too cheap to spend a few hundred bucks to keep their guns under reasonable control when they're not home then fuck em. In this day an age simply locking your door and setting an alarm is not a way to deny access to firearms, it should be buts it's not. You shouldn't have to deny access but that's the world we live in and I don't see it changing unless some serious shit goes down.

People who think keeping their guns locked up when not in use (shooting them or carrying them) is too much to ask are the only ones that are naive.
 
Re: "Assault" rifle prices since Newtown

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: redneckbmxer24</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JGrelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: redneckbmxer24</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As to requiring gun safes I absolutely support it. I don't think they should be allowed to peak inside but I would have no problem allowing LE to see my safe. No pictures, no writing down info, but you can look at it.

I know a lot of gun owners, even for living in the liberal are that I do. I only know a few people that have gun safes besides myself. A number of these friends have AR's, some of them own several, and most of them don't even try to hide them in the house. I think it's absolutely stupid to not at least have a basic RSC and make an attempt at not allowing your guns to be stolen. Even a cheap metal cabinet would prevent a fair amount of thefts.

The bubbas are some of the worst. I can't tell you how many peoples houses I've been in that have a wood gun cabinet with a glass door. Most of the time these cabinets are sitting in their living room right next to a window on the main floor that can be easily seen from the driveway or street at night when the lights are on. I personally know one dumbass with this exact setup that had his guns stolen. His cabinet could be seen from the street. Somebody broke in mid day and broke the glass on the cabinet with the same rock they broke the window to enter the house with.

I don't think requiring an adequate storage container is too much to ask especially considering the other options. In fact I support it. I don't think they should require everybody to have a TL rated safe but at minimum a well secured metal cabinet or even a job box designed for tools would do wonders.</div></div>

How arrogant & naive can you possibly be? You have no problem with more govt regulation & more burdens on law abiding gun owners, you may as well bow down to your master & lick their boots? When does it stop?
The gun grabbers surely aren't going to stop till we are completely disarmed, give an inch they will take a mile!
Wake the fuck up! </div></div>

Did I hit a nerve?

Requiring adequate gun storage is not too much to ask. It's a responsibility gun owners should take upon themselves but most don't. Look at how many stolen guns are used in crimes. It's a solution to the real problem unlike any sort of a ban. If somebody is too cheap to spend a few hundred bucks to keep their guns under reasonable control when they're not home then fuck em. In this day an age simply locking your door and setting an alarm is not a way to deny access to firearms, it should be buts it's not. You shouldn't have to deny access but that's the world we live in and I don't see it changing unless some serious shit goes down.

People who think keeping their guns locked up when not in use (shooting them or carrying them) is too much to ask are the only ones that are naive.</div></div>

It's way to much to ask because I'm not letting anyone in my house. We dont need more laws..we seem to be the most un-free free pepole ever.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Force_Multiplier</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: geevee35</div><div class="ubbcode-body">somewhat related question...does any one know how long records of current purchases are kept by the feds and by the state? Thanks</div></div>

records of specific purchases aren't kept by the federal government (at least not officially), states vary, but most states don't ever get any record.

the only record for a non NFA firearms purchase given to the federal government is the NICS check, it includes your name, DOB, place of birth, state of residence, and a physical description, along w/ the TYPE of firearm (IE: longgun, handgun, other firearm)...

yes the 4473 has you SSN, DL #, address, make, model, serial #, caliber of the firearm(s), but this info is never given to the government, unless a trace of a firearm is initiated. this info is retained by the dealer for a period of not less than 20yrs

so all that the federal government knows if that you bought a handgun (for example) on X date, and supposedly, that info is purged from NICS every 24hrs

but honestly, I don't buy it... </div></div>

I know a FFL holder that was going out of business had to turn in all records including the 4473's to the ATF back in the late 80's.
 
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Whether you or I like it or not, people have the right to be "irresponsible". You can't legislate responsibility anymore than you can morality or the evil intentions of criminals. If that were possible, every unattractive statistic of our country would cease to exist.

SHOULD people have gun safes if they own firearms? Yep.
SHOULD the government require people to buy them? Absolutely not. That is the epitome of a nanny state.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: smschulz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Umm, it's not an "assault rifle" unless it is full-auto.
We need, we must break the stigma of this.
Please for the sake of us all educate everyone you can. </div></div>

A better plan that cuts to the heart of the matter—every time <span style="font-style: italic">they</span> say, "gun control," <span style="font-style: italic">we</span> say:

<span style="font-weight: bold">In the 20th century, governments killed <span style="color: #FF0000">1/3 BILLION</span>, with a "B," of their <span style="text-decoration: underline">own</span> citizens, NOT including war. Mass murder by government dwarfs all private violence. We know how dangerous <span style="text-decoration: underline">you</span> are to us. We will keep our firepower, thank you very much.</span>
 
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To the OP-

If you have an extra rifle that you bought just cause, this would be a great time to sell it. I have a few extra parts that seem to be in short supply and the idea of getting back every penny I spent on them ( and then some ) including tax and shipping is tempting. I had a collection of hicaps for a couple of different guns I no longer own and decided it was a good time to liquidate. I did not gouge but did get back what I paid for them in Summer of 1994.

Here is how I'd decide. If the gun was stolen tomorrow and the insurance company cut you a check, would you buy another exactly like it or spend that money on something else ?


To the rest of the thread -

I have no idea how this whole thing is going to shake out. Living in CA though, I think the rest of the US is going to end up with a few of our laws that you do not already have. The requirement for a safe or lock for every gun is one of them. The requirement to transfer every single firearm using an FFL to include a background check is another. We also have a 10 rd limit on magazines that can be sold or transferred. It is a stupid law but one that I think will be pushed at the national level by our fine Senator Feinstein.

Will any of these make us and our children safer ? I don't know.
 
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I am the first person to stomp my foot and refuse anymore government inference in my life but those of you beat your chest proud demanding no mandatory gun safes have your fucking heads in the sand. Get real. They want something. And I dont know if you have noticed in the last election Ohblahblah got most of the vote. All it takes to oppress 49% of us is the vote of 51%. Throw them a bone and tell them mandatory gun safes and insanity checks or some shit that wont prevent us from owning what we want. If you have 20 grand in ARs and dont own a 1000 dollar liberty youre a retard anyhow. I realize one this can of worms is opened it never ends. But if you think you are going to stand on your front porch and beat your chest against their laws, I am with you. But we are even less than 1% of americans who really give a shit, and even if laws are passed half of us will roll over anyhow.
Best hope is we can defeat it outright, second best is give them something stupid to ban, like... more than 2 sling swivels or something awful.
Its the old magicians trick, shake your left hand alot so they dont see what you are holding in your right.
 
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I like it how the state of Texas decided to do things a few years back when there was this big push for mandatory gun locks from liberals. Instead of mandating people buy things, they just handed out free gun locks like candy at every gun show & anyone could call in or write in for some.

If you really want everyone to have safes, how about take the $1 Billion we plan to give the crazy muslim brotherhood government in Egypt for their 2013 we love you gift & give it back to the usual suspects (lockheed/martin, boeing, rayethon) and tell them we need about 4 million basic metal locking sheet metal lockers / safes to hand out for free. No extra cost and everybody can be happy (Including the big corporate interest who run things).

Now if you want to continue making sure everyone has a safe, then the easiest thing to do is to simply make it that all houses sold must have a basic safe installed (something as simple as the heavy sheet metal gun locker type safes they sell at the hardware stores for $200 or less).
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: redneckbmxer24</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JGrelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: redneckbmxer24</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As to requiring gun safes I absolutely support it. I don't think they should be allowed to peak inside but I would have no problem allowing LE to see my safe. No pictures, no writing down info, but you can look at it.

I know a lot of gun owners, even for living in the liberal are that I do. I only know a few people that have gun safes besides myself. A number of these friends have AR's, some of them own several, and most of them don't even try to hide them in the house. I think it's absolutely stupid to not at least have a basic RSC and make an attempt at not allowing your guns to be stolen. Even a cheap metal cabinet would prevent a fair amount of thefts.

The bubbas are some of the worst. I can't tell you how many peoples houses I've been in that have a wood gun cabinet with a glass door. Most of the time these cabinets are sitting in their living room right next to a window on the main floor that can be easily seen from the driveway or street at night when the lights are on. I personally know one dumbass with this exact setup that had his guns stolen. His cabinet could be seen from the street. Somebody broke in mid day and broke the glass on the cabinet with the same rock they broke the window to enter the house with.

I don't think requiring an adequate storage container is too much to ask especially considering the other options. In fact I support it. I don't think they should require everybody to have a TL rated safe but at minimum a well secured metal cabinet or even a job box designed for tools would do wonders.</div></div>

How arrogant & naive can you possibly be? You have no problem with more govt regulation & more burdens on law abiding gun owners, you may as well bow down to your master & lick their boots? When does it stop?
The gun grabbers surely aren't going to stop till we are completely disarmed, give an inch they will take a mile!
Wake the fuck up! </div></div>

Did I hit a nerve?

Requiring adequate gun storage is not too much to ask. It's a responsibility gun owners should take upon themselves but most don't. Look at how many stolen guns are used in crimes. It's a solution to the real problem unlike any sort of a ban. If somebody is too cheap to spend a few hundred bucks to keep their guns under reasonable control when they're not home then fuck em. In this day an age simply locking your door and setting an alarm is not a way to deny access to firearms, it should be buts it's not. You shouldn't have to deny access but that's the world we live in and I don't see it changing unless some serious shit goes down.

People who think keeping their guns locked up when not in use (shooting them or carrying them) is too much to ask are the only ones that are naive. </div></div>


I'm glad you are such a wealthy individual and can afford a gun safe(s) The 2nd Amendment applies to poor people as well, who have a constitutional right to own firearms for personal defense, even if its a $200 handgun, which apparently, you would have them buy a safe to keep it in, that once the government gets involved will be a multi thousand dollar item.

You also apparently didn’t hear about the Heller decision rendered by the Supreme Court of the United States, which specifically addressed the requirement that the guns be "disassembled" or secured with a "gun lock" which the majority held, would render the gun useless for self defense and thus infringes on the individuals constitutional right.

So, one can presume since you don’t agree with the majority decision of the court, you must agree with the minority that held the 2nd Amendment only applies to a states’ rights to have a militia and that there is no individual right to own a firearm for any purpose. So, since you are not part of a state militia, you can kiss ALL of your guns goodbye.

Don’t you understand that the battle here is all or nothing.

Would a gun safe requirement have stopped Columbine, where the guns were acquired through a “straw purchaser”? NO. Would they have stopped the shooting a the movie theater in Aurora Colorado, where a mentally challenged person, who had no criminal record legally purchased all the weapons, NO, he would have just got them out of the safe. What about the Gabriel Gifford’s shooting in AZ, again, NO, because the gun was legally purchased and used by the mentally defective purchaser, or what about the Virginia Tech shooting, again, NO, because another mental case was able to legally purchase the guns. And what about Newtown? Maybe if his mom had them locked up and he didn’t know where the key was, or waited until she had them out of the safe…

I was just talking to a friend tonight that feels no one should own an “assault rifle” because they are not used for “hunting” so, should we ban them because he doesn’t feel the need. Registration, fingerprinting, photos, approval by local law enforcement, keep them locked up and disassembled and separate from the ammunition, which must be kept in a separate safe and limiting the number of rounds of ammunition one can have “who needs 1,000 rounds” all sound reasonable don’t they. Once you start infringing on a constitutional right with “reasonable sounding solutions” (to some anyway) where do you stop?

Here is a summary of the SCOTUS Majority Opinion:

The Supreme Court held:
(1) The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home. Pp. 2–53. (a) The Amendment’s prefatory clause announces a purpose, but does not limit or expand the scope of the second part, the operative clause. The operative clause’s text and history demonstrate that it connotes an individual right to keep and bear arms. Pp. 2–22. (b) The prefatory clause comports with the Court’s interpretation of the operative clause. The “militia” comprised all males physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense. The Antifederalists feared that the Federal Government would disarm the people in order to disable this citizens’ militia, enabling a politicized standing army or a select militia to rule. The response was to deny Congress power to abridge the ancient right of individuals to keep and bear arms, so that the ideal of a citizens’ militia would be preserved. Pp. 22–28. (c) The Court’s interpretation is confirmed by analogous arms-bearing rights in state constitutions that preceded and immediately followed the Second Amendment. Pp. 28–30. (d) The Second Amendment’s drafting history, while of dubious interpretive worth, reveals three state Second Amendment proposals that unequivocally referred to an individual right to bear arms. Pp. 30–32. (e) Interpretation of the Second Amendment by scholars, courts and legislators, from immediately after its ratification through the late 19th century also supports the Court’s conclusion. Pp. 32–47. (f) None of the Court’s precedents forecloses the Court’s interpretation. Neither United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U. S. 542 , nor Presser v. Illinois, 116 U. S. 252 , refutes the individual-rights interpretation. United States v. Miller, 307 U. S. 174 , does not limit the right to keep and bear arms to militia purposes, but rather limits the type of weapon to which the right applies to those used by the militia, i.e., those in common use for lawful purposes. Pp. 47–54. (2) Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons. Pp. 54–56. (3) The handgun ban and the trigger-lock requirement (as applied to self-defense) violate the Second Amendment. The District’s total ban on handgun possession in the home amounts to a prohibition on an entire class of “arms” that Americans overwhelmingly choose for the lawful purpose of self-defense. <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">Under any of the standards of scrutiny the Court has applied to enumerated constitutional rights, this prohibition – in the place where the importance of the lawful defense of self, family, and property is most acute – would fail constitutional muster. Similarly, the requirement that any lawful firearm in the home be disassembled or bound by a trigger lock makes it impossible for citizens to use arms for the core lawful purpose of self-defense and is hence unconstitutional.</span></span> Because Heller conceded at oral argument that the D. C. licensing law is permissible if it is not enforced arbitrarily and capriciously, the Court assumes that a license will satisfy his prayer for relief and does not address the licensing requirement. Assuming he is not disqualified from exercising Second Amendment rights, the District must permit Heller to register his handgun and must issue him a license to carry it in the home. Pp. 56–64.
The Opinion of the Court, delivered by Justice Scalia, was joined by Chief Justice John G. Roberts, Jr. and by Justices Anthony M. Kennedy, Clarence Thomas and Samuel A. Alito Jr.[
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RedCreek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Registration, fingerprinting, photos, approval by local law enforcement, keep them locked up and disassembled and separate for the ammunition, which must be kept in a separate safe and limiting the number of rounds of ammunition one can have “who needs 1,000 rounds” all sound reasonable don’t they. Once you start infringing on a constitutional right with “reasonable sounding solutions” (to some anyway) where do you stop?
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Agreed 100%. Where do you stop? Once the momentum begins to move we go the way of England and Australia.

It says "Shall not be infringed" for a reason- the founders understood political motion and wanted to ensure that their law was not weak to "reasonable infringement" upon "reasonable infringement", inevitably culminating in no right at all.
 
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Looks like gun control does not work.

When our veterans come back from 1-7 tours of duty defending our freedoms and being labeled mentally defective because they ask for help to deal with the death they have had to see, it makes me sick. These are also veterans/citizens that would have their rights stripped because of bullshit gun control.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RedCreek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

I was just talking to a friend tonight that feels no one should own an &#147;assault rifle&#148; because they are not used for &#147;hunting&#148; so, should we ban them because he doesn&#146;t feel the need. Registration, fingerprinting, photos, approval by local law enforcement, keep them locked up and disassembled and separate from the ammunition, which must be kept in a separate safe and limiting the number of rounds of ammunition one can have &#147;who needs 1,000 rounds&#148; all sound reasonable don&#146;t they. Once you start infringing on a constitutional right with &#147;reasonable sounding solutions&#148; (to some anyway) where do you stop?

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Yes and your friend is the majority of the US, you dont know how many times a day I try to explain its not about need. Just like with your first amendment rights you dont "NEED" to make stupid comments about gun control, but because of that amendment you are free to do so.

The rest of America thinks as your friend does. And you think that their indifference will somehow translate into us not losing our rights?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: litehiker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">GUN SAFES:

We need 'em and they will likely be required. I have damned expensive firearms and keep all but one carry pistol in a 500 lb. gun safe bolted to a cement floor.

A mandatory gunsafe law will be enforced "in the breach". Get your firearms stolen W/O a gun safe and you would get fined, likely the cost of a closet safe.
LE guys find a stolen gun registered to you and find you have no safe you get fined.

Those who want no law for mandatory gun safes are asking for some other, nastier gun restriction, IMHO. A gun safe law would go a LONG way to pacify upset citizens AND keep more firearms out of the hands of criminals and mentally ill people with violent intents.</div></div>

This how it begins when your liberal controlling laws become a 'compromise'.
THEN what is next?
Registration, inspections......confiscation.
The crime can't be that we were a victim of a crime.
Fuck that idea.
I don't trust the government or people like you one bit.
 
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I don't trust the right or the left they both want and will walk all over someones rights! Neither believe in freedom they both only believe in what they think is "right" and want the goverment to enforce what they believe.
 
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It also boils down to pure numbers. I read somewhere online when I was doing some research that there are over 250 million firearms legally owned in the U.S. Those firearms are owned by some 80 million Americans.

Should the actions of less than a half dozen nutbags per year be used to strip 80 million law abiding Americans of a constitutional RIGHT? They won't do it for alcohol because of alcohol-related traffic deaths or for tobacco products because of tobacco-related deaths. If they were LEGITIMATELY concerned about saving lives, they'd work from the top down. And let me tell you....firearms would be near the very bottom of the list because only about 9,000 people per year are murdered via firearms in this country....you know what the average number of death by "rifles"is per year?.....less than 405. You are 450% more likely to get stabbed than shot with a rifle.

I'm all for safety measures, but I'm sure there are MUCH better ways to handle the "crisis" our country faces than mandating freaking gun safes or banning AR-15s and Pmags.

If people would drown the lib-tards and media with FACTS (that happen to be provided by the FBI's own website), maybe we can open and honest and productive dialogue on firearm SAFETY instead of firearm CONTROL.
 
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It seems to me that it would be very difficult to mandate gun safes for all or certain firearms. In a perfect world I would like to see firearms properly stored to ensure that they cannot be accessed by someone that is not the owner. I've spent a considerable amount of time thinking about this and the conclusion I have come to is this: I DON'T KNOW... It would seem that the gun control advocates are going to get something. What, I don't know. I am a big believer in the bill of rights and I cringe when people are willing to take a "cafeteria style" approach to things. Just because someone isn't into guns and doesn't own them shouldn't be a reason to say that others shouldn't. I had a very good friend of mine recently tell me he didn't agree that I should be able to own firearms. This is coming from a guy who is 100% republican. I had to invest some time helping him understand why we have the bill of rights and why the infringement on these rights is a scary proposition. I'm not sure I was 100% successful, but he did at least see my point of view.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Matt Waage</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am the first person to stomp my foot and refuse anymore government inference in my life but those of you beat your chest proud demanding no mandatory gun safes have your fucking heads in the sand. Get real. They want something. And I dont know if you have noticed in the last election Ohblahblah got most of the vote. All it takes to oppress 49% of us is the vote of 51%. Throw them a bone and tell them mandatory gun safes and insanity checks or some shit that wont prevent us from owning what we want. If you have 20 grand in ARs and dont own a 1000 dollar liberty youre a retard anyhow. I realize one this can of worms is opened it never ends. But if you think you are going to stand on your front porch and beat your chest against their laws, I am with you. But we are even less than 1% of americans who really give a shit, and even if laws are passed half of us will roll over anyhow.
Best hope is we can defeat it outright, second best is give them something stupid to ban, like... more than 2 sling swivels or something awful.
Its the old magicians trick, shake your left hand alot so they dont see what you are holding in your right.
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First, if you think 'throwing them a bone' will work then you must be retarded.
It would never pass anyway, no way to enforce, no way to have any agreement on standards, doubtful it would be legal to mandate anyway and who is going to pay for it?
Second, they would never stop there and from there registration, inspections and confiscations.
Whenever we have a 'compromise' candidate we ALWAYS lose.
The 'throwing them a bone' method is nothing more than the next step to all of that 'sensible gun law' crap.
 
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We should troll the hell out of them. Write a bill that indefinitely bans the transfer of "high capacity clips over 20 rounds" in exchange for making unlawful to introduce bills that magazine capacity restrictions.

They know so little about firearms, it may actually work.
 
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Appeasement of the antigun crowd... Ha ha
it is like feeding the alligator a little at a time hoping he will eat U last.. (W. Churchill)
 
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Safe or not you are ultimately responsible for what you own! I feel comfortable knowing what I have that is not with me at all times is out of reach from joe blow stealing everything I own. I know a safe is not a 100% guarantee but I know I tried. I don not think the government should restrict what ones owns.. He'll if you can afford and Abraham's why the hell not! But I do feel we as firearms owners need to be responsible. Responsible people are ultimately paying for people's poor choices.
 
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GUN SAFES - AGAIN:

At least SOME here realize the importance of a gun safe, or at least a very difficult to defeat steel closet.

Those of you who think I will PERMIT the Feds. to "buy Back" any of my firearms haven't read my opinion in my initial post that says "people" (me included) would bury "illegal" (i.e "buy back) firearms deep and in a good PVC pipe setup. I do mean that and I WILL sit in jail if it comes to that when I can't (won't) produce them for the Feds.

CIVIL DISOBEDIANCE is a subject I taught in high school for 35 years and I am not, at age 69, a damn bit worried about sitting my ass in jail and letting tax money pay for my keep. Imagine if several million gun owners refused to give up our semi-auto firearms. Civil disobediance in this nation was begun with the American Revolution and the men at Concord and Lexington refusing to give up their firearms. It is a noble and honorable cause.

All I am saying is that a mandatory gun safe law is something that would go a long way to help our cause AND protect our firearms from criminals and the mentally unbalanced. You can also bury any you don't want to keep in a safe. Your option.

And I agree, the Feds never need to see inside the safe. They ONLY need to see that you have one.

To those of you who will not give one inch on any gun safety matter you will certainly be damn disappointed when many Republican lawmakers help vote them into law.

We gun owners are THE largest and most united group of citizens in this nation. We will affect how the laws are written IF we have the gumption to contact our Congressmen and Senators.

Ya gotta ask yourself - have you contacted your lawmakers DIRECTLY? I have.
 
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With this safe buying frenzy, most folks on Snipers hide has one rifle that cost more than 65% of American gun owners entire collection. What happens when Bob, who is struggling 2 minimum wage jobs to feed 3 kids and keep his wife's mom and dad up because SS and medicare wont completely cover the chronic illness of the inlaw, is told he has to buy a safe for his 37A, a Marlin 22 and his grandads old Model 10 Smith? These are the majority of gun owners in America and their vote counts exactly the same as someone with a collection that rivals Franks.Most owners own less than 5 guns and that's because it is all they can afford and part of those were family gifts.
They simply cant afford a safe and have never really needed one, You going to force it on them, or make them a criminal?
When someone drives a car through a marching band, you going to be OK with locking up your car keys in the safe? Oh yeah, why can we still buy box cutters,fertilizer and racing fuel?

Those who willing give up a freedom do not deserve freedom.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: litehiker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">GUN SAFES - AGAIN:

At least SOME here realize the importance of a gun safe, or at least a very difficult to defeat steel closet.

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Important > yes.
Any business of the government > NO.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jon Lester</div><div class="ubbcode-body">With this safe buying frenzy, most folks on Snipers hide has one rifle that cost more than 65% of American gun owners entire collection. What happens when Bob, who is struggling 2 minimum wage jobs to feed 3 kids and keep his wife's mom and dad up because SS and medicare wont completely cover the chronic illness of the inlaw, is told he has to buy a safe for his 37A, a Marlin 22 and his grandads old Model 10 Smith? These are the majority of gun owners in America and their vote counts exactly the same as someone with a collection that rivals Franks.Most owners own less than 5 guns and that's because it is all they can afford and part of those were family gifts.
They simply cant afford a safe and have never really needed one, You going to force it on them, or make them a criminal?
When someone drives a car through a marching band, you going to be OK with locking up your car keys in the safe? Oh yeah, why can we still buy box cutters,fertilizer and racing fuel?

Those who willing give up a freedom do not deserve freedom. </div></div>

Jon,

I thought about this, and the best way I could think of was a tax credit to the purchaser, for those who purchase a gun safe.

Color me simple sometimes.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RedCreek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

I'm glad you are such a wealthy individual and can afford a gun safe(s) The 2nd Amendment applies to poor people as well, who have a constitutional right to own firearms for personal defense, even if its a $200 handgun, which apparently, you would have them buy a safe to keep it in, that once the government gets involved will be a multi thousand dollar item.

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If somebody can't afford a $100 metal cabinet to store a few rifles or a $50 handgun vault to store a handgun when it isn't on there side or beside there bed then they need to find another hobby. Guns aren't cheap and shooting isn't cheap but basic storage is.

As I said I don't expect everybody to buy top of the line security but at least a half assed attempt would be a step in the right direction. I also don't support .gov coming into a home to check on firearm storage but I have nothing to hide so I wouldn't object if they requested. Laws with penalties if a gun was stolen that wasn't under reasonable control would be more than adequate. Checking storage methods of every gun owner in the US isn't cost effective or safe for officers.
 
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I live in a Very Restrictive state for Gun Ownership, and also Very close to Newtown Ct and have contact with people from that community threw my work.
A discussion about Gun Saftey should happen!!!!'
We have many.regulation in place for the storage and use of Hazarardous materials and items, to protect the public at large.
We as gun owners have been defenDing our Right to gun ownership with the old line
GUNS DO NOT KILL PEOPLE ..............PEOPLE DO!!!!!!!!!!
So what are our requirements to to help provent those PEOPLE from killing someone
I may be called a fool here by certain members, but my home defense weapon does have a trigger lock on it (combination not keyed)
And I have been trained that I need to take those few seconds on weapon pre before firing for the safety of my family and loved one!!!!
My good freind was just shot to death by his nephew coming in to his own home..... Very sad 47 year old talented man!!!!!!
So I am All for gun safety
With 300 MILLION GUNS IN THIS COUNTY I WOULD LIKE AS MAY SAFE AS POSSIBLE
 
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OK, I got to respond to this one

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jacklulu</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
"A discussion about Gun Saftey should happen!!!!"

"So what are our requirements to to help provent those PEOPLE from killing someone"

"So I am All for gun safety
With 300 MILLION GUNS IN THIS COUNTY I WOULD LIKE AS MAY SAFE AS POSSIBLE" </div></div>
What you may not understand is it will not be a "discussion" about firearms, it will be a mass ban where people like you and I will not have the option to protect our family, that's where this will go. Its not a law requiring gun locks, much more my friend.

How do you prevent people from killing? Maybe we should make it illegal, then it will never happen, right? Have you ever heard of the Kellogg–Briand Pact? It was a treaty signed by Germany, France and the US in 1928 to prohibit the use of war to resolve conflicts. This treaty effectively stated that war was illegal, we see how effective this pact was, we cant trust our own government to follow the very laws they write, and now they want to scrub part of the Constitution. Now we are faced with the possibility of loosing one of our most precious freedoms. The reality is people want to pass a law so they feel safer at night or when they send their kids to school, when in reality there is nothing anyone can do to stop someone who is bent on destroying someones life. If giving up your 2nd Amendment rights will make you feel safer, than continue to do nothing and see how much better you sleep at night when your rights to own a firearm are removed.

The reality is firearms are a easy target and anytime anything tragic happens firearms are blamed. Bad people have been doing bad things for many 10s of thousands of years, long before firearms were around, and will continue with or without the use of firearms. IEDs, vehicles, pointed weapons, all pretty effective if someone with bad intentions decides to do harm, how do you stop that? That is the discussion.


Kirk R
 
Re: "Assault" rifle prices since Newtown

Mandatory gun safes? Are you guys fucking kidding me?

Lets think about that for a second. You want it to be mandatory for all of my firearms to be stored in a safe which would have to meet yet another government specification. Plus be required to prove that all my firearms are in said safe, which would mean that it would have to be available for inspection by a LEO. Who in turn would report the location and contents of the safe up the chain. Now that would be the same as mandatory registration, and history shows us what happens after that.

Now ask yourself do you really want a government that claims returning Veterans, Right Wing Thinkers, and those who would question authority are among the greatest threats to our Nation knowing where you store your firearms?

Think its better for everyone's safety? Read my signature
 
Re: "Assault" rifle prices since Newtown

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jacklulu</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I live in a Very Restrictive state for Gun Ownership, and also Very close to Newtown Ct and have contact with people from that community threw my work.
A discussion about Gun Saftey should happen!!!!'
We have many.regulation in place for the storage and use of Hazarardous materials and items, to protect the public at large.
We as gun owners have been defenDing our Right to gun ownership with the old line
GUNS DO NOT KILL PEOPLE ..............PEOPLE DO!!!!!!!!!!
So what are our requirements to to help provent those PEOPLE from killing someone
I may be called a fool here by certain members, but my home defense weapon does have a trigger lock on it (combination not keyed)
And I have been trained that I need to take those few seconds on weapon pre before firing for the safety of my family and loved one!!!!
My good freind was just shot to death by his nephew coming in to his own home..... Very sad 47 year old talented man!!!!!!
So I am All for gun safety
With 300 MILLION GUNS IN THIS COUNTY I WOULD LIKE AS MAY SAFE AS POSSIBLE </div></div>



So, what you are saying is that all of the recent mass shootings were due to a "lack of proper gun safety" Seriously!!

And, so you CHOOSE to have a trigger lock on your primary home defense firearm and because that’s what you CHOOSE to do, EVERYONE in the country should be forced, by Federal law and threat of criminal prosecution to do the same?

Please explain to me how “improved gun safety” would have prevented any one of these mass shootings, or deter or prevent a single determined criminal from misusing a firearm.

I’m sure everyone on this site is for improved firearms safety, but do you want the likes of Dianne Feinstein determining what that is for you and for everyone else?

Do you also not realize that their end game is total confiscation of ALL firearms? I’m sure in the name of “keeping us safe” Dianne Feinstein said a few years ago “ the we will just tell them; Mr. and Mrs. America, TURN THEM ALL IN” Google it if you don’t believe me.

Self righteous, elitist pricks like you don’t deserve the freedoms you have.

So, when they march you off to the FEMA re-education camp and tell you you’ll need to take a mass shower before entering, just remember, it was all in the interest of public safety.


<span style="font-weight: bold">Feinstein Goes For Broke With New Gun-Ban Bill</span>
http://www.nraila.org/legislation/federa...n-ban-bill.aspx
 
Re: "Assault" rifle prices since Newtown

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: redneckbmxer24</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
If somebody can't afford a $100 metal cabinet to store a few rifles or a $50 handgun vault to store a handgun when it isn't on there side or beside there bed then they need to find another hobby. Guns aren't cheap and shooting isn't cheap but basic storage is.

As I said I don't expect everybody to buy top of the line security but at least a half assed attempt would be a step in the right direction. I also don't support .gov coming into a home to check on firearm storage but I have nothing to hide so I wouldn't object if they requested. Laws with penalties if a gun was stolen that wasn't under reasonable control would be more than adequate. Checking storage methods of every gun owner in the US isn't cost effective or safe for officers.</div></div>

So the thief is not responsible if he steals my guns, but I am???
We can't blame the criminal, might hurt his feelings, never mind if my home is locked up, I guess that's no longer reasonable.
what next mandatory inspections.
While were at it, how about breathalyzers in all automobiles, if you don't drink, they you should have no problem with that, especially since your do not have a "Right to drive", mandatory weight checks each month to make sure you don't over eat. Where do you draw the line?
How about we have you keep your firearms locked up at your gun club, like they do in the UK, then you can really feel safe & fuzzy. After all it's just a hobby to you.
You obviously don't understand the concept of the 2nd Amendment & seem to consider it more of a govt allowed privilege, rather than an Unalienable Right. From the sound of it, you don't value the 4th Amendment much either. Do you stand for, or believe in anything?
 
Re: "Assault" rifle prices since Newtown

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: redneckbmxer24</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RedCreek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

I'm glad you are such a wealthy individual and can afford a gun safe(s) The 2nd Amendment applies to poor people as well, who have a constitutional right to own firearms for personal defense, even if its a $200 handgun, which apparently, you would have them buy a safe to keep it in, that once the government gets involved will be a multi thousand dollar item.

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If somebody can't afford a $100 metal cabinet to store a few rifles or a $50 handgun vault to store a handgun when it isn't on there side or beside there bed then they need to find another hobby. Guns aren't cheap and shooting isn't cheap but basic storage is.

As I said I don't expect everybody to buy top of the line security but at least a half assed attempt would be a step in the right direction. I also don't support .gov coming into a home to check on firearm storage but I have nothing to hide so I wouldn't object if they requested. Laws with penalties if a gun was stolen that wasn't under reasonable control would be more than adequate. Checking storage methods of every gun owner in the US isn't cost effective or safe for officers. </div></div>

I own three gun safes, but I dont feel they should be MANDATED BY FEDERAL LAW for every gun owner. You also ASSUME that a $50 handgun vault would meet the Federal Requirments.

You also missed the point in my post the the Supreme Court of the United States alredy ruled in the Heller case that it is UN-CONSTITUTIONAL for a law to require MANDATORY trigger locks, which would also rule out laws (even Federal) requireing you to store your firearms in a gun safe.

So, WHAT PART OF UN-CONSTITIONAL DO YOU NOT GRASP!!!

Maybe you should go discuss this with the justices and get them to reverse the Heller decision.

Seriously, whith gun owners like you Dianne Fienstine has it made.
 
Re: "Assault" rifle prices since Newtown

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rainier42</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Matt Waage</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I hate the government in our lives but federally mandated gun safes is about the best outcome we can have as of now.
Im not batting for it but its not a bad idea to try to pitch it to divert their attention.
Stolen guns are a problem and the rightful, legal, sane owner of the weapons used in conn was murdered and they were stolen.
How bout federally mandated gun safes that can be taken as a tax deduction or a rebate. Safe companies win with business, firearm owners with with safes that can reduce their taxable income and provide security.
I also hate the government giving tax breaks and giving my money away but whats the best outcome we can expect at this point...?
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Agreed ... if that mom in CT had secured her firearms, that kid of hers would not have been able to cause the carnage he did; if the owner of the AR had secured his firearm out in Oregon, the mall shooter would not have been able to steal it. A poll was done not to long ago and roughly 47% of Americans who own firearms and have kids in the house have them unsecured. Having firearms properly secured makes far more sense than banning.
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Senator Fienstien stated on Fox News Sunday, when asked if her law was "a knee jerk reaction to the recent shootings" that, her new "Assult Weapons Ban Bill" has been "in the works for well over a year. Long before the last several mass shootings. She also stated in another forum that it may not go far enough and that what we really may need is confiscation via a buy back program.

So, do you really think they will be placated by a gun safe requirement? Especially since such a law would be clearly Un-Constititional under the recent Heller decision.

But have heart, they are discussing rasing the amount they would pay from $200 to $500.

Unfortunaly, for people like you no amount of buy-back money can't fix unbeleivably naive or epically stupid.