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Adams card that comes in the package says "to the Kernel within 10 seconds".
I have never in my life purchased something that has over performed like this thing has...
good lord. I did a comparison to my Lyman Gen 6 and the V3. The same weights thrown, I can throw 4 charges in the time it takes to throw one with the Gen6 and they are to the .01 grain of H4350.
Instructions tell you specifically which one to use I believe. Do not use the one that comes with the scale.Came with two power cords , what one y’all using. Outlet is 110/120 volt .
Michigan, south to Ohio where it sat for 3 days, then west to Illinois for 2 days and then finally arrived in Houston early yesterday morning where it has been sitting ever since. I think someone wrote on the box, please deliver as slowly as possible. 50 miles to go and the wait is killing me!*sigh* mines been sitting in Olive Branch MS since 8pm Friday......
Man that sucks, it’ll be worth it I’m sure. Mine did make it to Alaska yesterday, FedEx must of felt their ears burning. Supposed to be delivered by end of day today. Almost 10 weeks from order to delivery.Michigan, south to Ohio where it sat for 3 days, then west to Illinois for 2 days and then finally arrived in Houston early yesterday morning where it has been sitting ever since. I think someone wrote on the box, please deliver as slowly as possible. 50 miles to go and the wait is killing me!
Sigh, figured there was supposed to be an insert.There should be a brass bushing that threaded?
If they can't get you a replacement quickly I can send you the base I'm not using since I have the Area 419 base.Sigh, figured there was supposed to be an insert.
If they can't get you a replacement quickly I can send you the base I'm not using since I have the Area 419 base.
Yes, it was a bit of a PITA. Not horrible, but more of a pain than I expected. I also had to put thicker rubber feet on the bottom so I could use it with the standard powder pan. The Area 419 pan sits lower so it isn't a problem if you use their pan.Me too, did you find it a PIA to switch over? , the screws that hold the funnel were a 1/16 allen key, and hard to reach, alot different than the video I watched, but that was an earlier base I guess?
Anyone got a picture of their screw hole?
Yes, it was a bit of a PITA. Not horrible, but more of a pain than I expected. I also had to put thicker rubber feet on the bottom so I could use it with the standard powder pan. The Area 419 pan sits lower so it isn't a problem if you use their pan.
Oh and funnel logo facing scale although if I'd thought about it I probably would have faced it out.
Or one of these threaded inserts would probably work.Sigh, figured there was supposed to be an insert.
Ah yeah, opened that door with out thinkingSooooo many jokes....so....soo....many
For now, works pretty good actually haha.
Just a FYI in case someone is chasing their ass like I did for MONTHS. I had the area419 setup and my scale was so damn finicky. It would lose zero, wander all over hell, and if I weighed a powder charge in an hour if I weighed it again it was significantly different. I couldn't even get through a batch without it changing. Thought my scale was defective and I consider myself a decent troubleshooter. Well it was the tray from Area419. I went back to the OEM pan and it's been absolute bliss ever since. Area419 sent me a new one but still gave me problems. I know I'm a minority but my buddy read the solution somewhere and saved my sanity so I'm passing my experience on. I think AREA419 is a great company and don't mean any disrespect.
Thank you! I was considering getting the 419 tray and cup but I will stick with the OEM. Saved me some money that paid of my Area419 funnel kit (Which is amazing.)Just a FYI in case someone is chasing their ass like I did for MONTHS. I had the area419 setup and my scale was so damn finicky. It would lose zero, wander all over hell, and if I weighed a powder charge in an hour if I weighed it again it was significantly different. I couldn't even get through a batch without it changing. Thought my scale was defective and I consider myself a decent troubleshooter. Well it was the tray from Area419. I went back to the OEM pan and it's been absolute bliss ever since. Area419 sent me a new one but still gave me problems. I know I'm a minority but my buddy read the solution somewhere and saved my sanity so I'm passing my experience on. I think AREA419 is a great company and don't mean any disrespect.
The hopper and lid from Area419 make a great addition, a little more expensive than an old H4350 lid but worthwhile.When your scrounging for more prepped brass..... dam this thing could get expensive in more ways than one.
Didn’t like the idea of not covering the trickler. Lid from an empty can of H4350.
Modern solutions to modern problems. I like It! Plus I'm super cheap when it comes to certain thingsWhen your scrounging for more prepped brass..... dam this thing could get expensive in more ways than one.
Didn’t like the idea of not covering the trickler. Lid from an empty can of H4350.
This was last summer and fall. Other people have had the problem which is how my buddy came across the solution. It really was a miserable problem. Constantly chasing my ass and unsure of load consistency despite having paid a lot of money for the autotrickler so I could have confidence in my powder charges. Area419 said they had some reports and thought it may have to do with the part going into the hole of the scale. However the new one didn't fix the problem so I quickly put it in the drawer. Now I have 2 and I can't in good conscience sell them to someone and them end up with the frustrations I've had. Same with original powder holder that I no longer need after upgrading to V3.Interesting , how old is your unit? and was this happening recently? I wonder if anyone else had the same problem? Did Area 419 offer any ideas?
Instructions come with for both the scale and the ATV3. It is already programmed. Just assemble and put it to work.Does it come with a copy of the instructions and assembly manual or do I need to print a copy from their web page?
Ordered mine 7/6. Am I looking at Sept for delivery??
What else do I need beside the clear lid. I ordered it for delivery with the ATV3.
Forgot, I think I read it is already programmed from CE products? Just assemble the parts? I downloaded the app already.
I see you are still playing with a full deck , did you get a resolution to not having threads? Mine is out for delivery!When your scrounging for more prepped brass..... dam this thing could get expensive in more ways than one.
Didn’t like the idea of not covering the trickler. Lid from an empty can of H4350.
Contacted Adam, he’s working on getting one shipped to replace the base. No drama, honest mistake.I see you are still playing with a full deck , did you get a resolution to not having threads? Mine is out for delivery!
What do you think Sixwhiskey? Worth the wait?View attachment 7403826What can Brown do for you! 12 weeks to the day.
I finally got to mess with it a little yesterday evening, loaded up a quick to 10 rounds to narrow down a velocity. Started at 39 and worked up to 43.5 in .5 increments. Took all of 10 minutes. Shot those, came back in and loaded 10 more from 41 to 42 to further narrow it down. So all total around 40 minutes with a new powder to find the velocity area I want to explore. I really didn't need to start as low as 39, but wanted to see how easy it was. To answer your question, yes it was worth the wait.What do you think Sixwhiskey? Worth the wait?
p.s. if you know what the whole package is, congrats on being as big a geek as I am !
@Sixwhiskey what can brown do for me?....see where that Fragile sticker is on your box?....usually mine has a nice size 11 boot print right across it...and then some dents in the side like the neighbor kids have been using it for soccer practice. The V3 came to me double boxed and heavily padded...thank god....not a scratch on the unit...but the box was rather....well...it had some character.
.02 under as in you are setting the load for 94 and consistently getting 93.98? That is fine it is rated as .02 accurate so it is doing it's job. Unless you are dropping a fine powder it will rarely get dead on. Consistency is what makes me happy, my standard deviations have dropped below four.So I am consistently .02 under. I am playing with some 4166 for a 308 load and I am guessing each kernel weighs around .03. So is it better to be over or under, or it doesn't matter as long as its consistent? Or it doesn't matter because 1 kernel isn't going to make a difference? It is just hard on my OCD.
That is excellent information!@bunny too Some powder charges fall on target easier than others almost like my desired powder charge falls on the half kernel sometimes.
However, there is a guy here on SH that sells reducers of 2 different sizes for the end of the trickler and you get both for $17 on ebay. Surprisingly they are freaking awesome. He says half the people swear by the bigger and 1/2 swear by the smaller. I realize I said game changer and I meant it. It makes it so the trickler has finer adjustment if that makes sense. It can be more horizontal and the slightest adjustment gets me on target. Plus I can adjust the drop 1/2 grain from target and the trickle hits the mark before the final slow motion that again grinds on my soul.
Before the reducer I was either 0.02 gr below OR way over. Drove my OCD batshit crazy.
If you followed set up procedures it should have had you put the scale sensitivity to fast. Which is basically instant from what I can tell. That wont help when two or three clump together, when the trickler isnt leveled right or if there is a slight draft.That is excellent information!how would I find the reducers?I was think of sending Adam an email asking that he modify the APP so it has a "magnum" setting, a setting that would set the stepping motor in the trickler to a second between each step when it gets within a tenth of the desired charge; as I typically weigh magnum powders my kernels weigh about .06 grains a piece, it would not be uncommon (though not typical) for it to go from 94 grains (my setting) to 94.04 or .06 (or .08 etc.) within the amount of time it took the scale to register the weight. Drives me crazy too , I just dump the load back in the hopper and sigh.I will search ebay for the reducers, if you want to send me a link that would be cool too. Found and purchased, thank you for the information and help
Thank you ifgator,
-b
I did but even on fast the trickler runs for a tenth to a fifth of a second after a grain drops and the weight registers, this occasionally allows a second or third grain to drop. I have the trickler level on a four inch granite surface plate with three breeze blocks installed, even on the fast sensitivity setting I think there is a fraction of a second lag. When the kernels are that large it can make a difference.If you followed set up procedures it should have had you put the scale sensitivity to fast. Which is basically instant from what I can tell. That wont help when two or three clump together, when the trickler isnt leveled right or if there is a slight draft.
I run mine with a negative 1 degree angle and it usually undercharges by 0.02 and sometimes right on the target weight - it rarely goes over. This is using H4350 and CFE223 powders. To me negative 1 degree means the autotrickler is tilted back away from the scale.Try to run the trickler with a plus one degree angle instead of level?
That's actually where I'm at. Either right on or 0.02 heavy which is so much faster and better.I run mine with a negative 1 degree angle and it usually undercharges by 0.02 and sometimes right on the target weight - it rarely goes over. This is using H4350 and CFE223 powders. To me negative 1 degree means the autotrickler is tilted back away from the scale.