Badger M2008 vs Surgeon tough choice!!!!!

[skeetlee]

Of these two action what action would you chose for a custom tactical build? I am either going to do a 6.5mm of some sort or a 6mm dasher. I will be using an AICS chassis. I know the badger requires a bit more work to get it to fit in the AICS stock but they look very nice!!! I am really after what action is the superior product. Fit finish smoothness lockup those type of things, I know this is a tough choice, so i was hoping someone could help me with this decision. Thanks Lee

 

[lizzardking308]

Re: Badger M2008 vs Surgeon tough choice!!!!!

As far as which is superior, that's like the usual USO vs Premier vs S&B debate... mainly subjective. Go with whichever you like better as both are great actions.

Personally I like the M2008.

 

[Blackhawk95]

Re: Badger M2008 vs Surgeon tough choice!!!!!

Man, seems like you buy a new action every week!!

I havent personally seen the Badger, but I like alot of the features it offers for a repeater. But, I dont know how well a Dasher is going to feed in it, with that short case and steep shoulder.

It would be an interesting build.

Jerid

 

[AdamPini]

Re: Badger M2008 vs Surgeon tough choice!!!!!

Im a huge fan of the surgeon action. My friend chris just got one back from GAP and its smooth as hell and the quality is top notch.

 

[lizzardking308]

Re: Badger M2008 vs Surgeon tough choice!!!!!

My 6.5CM feeds just fine, haven't tried a Dasher...

 

[armada]

Re: Badger M2008 vs Surgeon tough choice!!!!!

Oh man, are you in for a world of hurt. I own both, 3 of each to be exact. I still don't know. But, the Badger has 1 advantage and that is, if you are using the short action for a build, most people are using the double stack magazine, AW. Disadvantage, less stock options. Other than that, good luck! You can't go wrong either way.

 

[JRose]

Re: Badger M2008 vs Surgeon tough choice!!!!!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: armada</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Oh man, are you in for a world of hurt. I own both, 3 of each to be exact. I still don't know. But, the Badger has 1 advantage and that is, if you are using the short action for a build, most people are using the double stack magazine, AW. Disadvantage, less stock options. Other than that, good luck! You can't go wrong either way. </div></div>

I love my BO, but I have never owned a Surgeon. I too feel you can't go wrong with either, but I just bought my second, and plan on getting a third in the future. While the Surgeon action might be a great action, I've found the BO to give me everything I need in an action. It's smooth as glass, short bolt throw, uses AW mags, and comes from a great company.

 

[ZLBubba]

Re: Badger M2008 vs Surgeon tough choice!!!!!

For me, the decision came down to the stock. I like the Badger in AICS better, and the Surgeon in more conventional stocks. Still, you really are getting a great action whichever one you choose.

 

[JCH]

Re: Badger M2008 vs Surgeon tough choice!!!!!

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...563#Post1322563

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...308#Post1322308

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...565#Post1322565

seems you have already made your mind up. So why do you keep asking?

 

[427Cobra]

Re: Badger M2008 vs Surgeon tough choice!!!!!

I own a Surgeon, its for a future build, but I do like the short throw of the Badger, either will serve you well.

 

[Bacarrat]

Re: Badger M2008 vs Surgeon tough choice!!!!!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JCH</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...563#Post1322563

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...308#Post1322308

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...565#Post1322565

seems you have already made your mind up. So why do you keep asking? </div></div>

You should already know that skeetlee doesn't use the search button let alone know what he posted hours apart.... lol

 

[skeetlee]

Re: Badger M2008 vs Surgeon tough choice!!!!!

NIce try. My rifle didnt make it home this weekend like i had hoped. I have been extreamly bored. So I have read on this subject for 2 days straight. I just couldnt find all the info i was wanting, so what else to do but ask! And ya I like to talk!! LOL Thanks guys! Lee

 

[sawhornsoff]

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pm sent

 

[Moof]

Re: Badger M2008 vs Surgeon tough choice!!!!!

I'm buildin off of a M2008 in a AICS stock and was told that you can switch barrels by yourself, no smith needed.

 

[Tangodown911]

Re: Badger M2008 vs Surgeon tough choice!!!!!

I own neither. But if I were to buy, my money would go to the Surgeon. I like to one piece design.

 

[rijndael]

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I wish the Badger didn't weigh 3.5 lbs, which puts it 50% heaver than the Surgeon. To some, it won't matter, but I prefer lighter rifles.

 

[Deisel]

Re: Badger M2008 vs Surgeon tough choice!!!!!

I have GAP rifles with both Surgeon and Badger actions. I don't think you can go wrong with either. If I was going with an AICS build I personally would go with the Badger. I just think the Badger looks great in an AICS.

 

[ToddM]

Re: Badger M2008 vs Surgeon tough choice!!!!!

Surgeon, because it's already had all the kinks worked out in a time proven design. You also won't have to worry what generation you have now that badger has changed action dimensions, or if they change them again down the road.

 

[Bacarrat]

Re: Badger M2008 vs Surgeon tough choice!!!!!

What kinks are there with the Badger action?

 

[JCH]

Re: Badger M2008 vs Surgeon tough choice!!!!!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bacarrat</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What kinks are there with the Badger action?</div></div>

I don't think he was saying there was, just that they have changed the design.

Surgeon is based on the rem 700 and can fit into stocks for a 700 after opening up the recoil lug area.

 

[seven mm]

Re: Badger M2008 vs Surgeon tough choice!!!!!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Moof</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm buildin off of a M2008 in a AICS stock and was told that you can switch barrels by yourself, no smith needed. </div></div>


Same as with the surgeon.

 

[trigger time]

Re: Badger M2008 vs Surgeon tough choice!!!!!

Got the same conundrum myself rightnow.

 

[lizzardking308]

Re: Badger M2008 vs Surgeon tough choice!!!!!

There aren't any "kinks" in the M2008 action and the changes in the short actions were not the result of problems.

 

[runngun]

Re: Badger M2008 vs Surgeon tough choice!!!!!

I went with a badger. Too bad it will be a few years untill I can complete the build. At least I have one GAP I can shoot right now.

For the record,the two changes for the short action were they changed the barrel threads to match the Magnum actions for uniformity and the bolt stop was changed to the same pattern as the Magnums.

 

[JRose]

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[BMG50CAL]

Re: Badger M2008 vs Surgeon tough choice!!!!!

I have 3 surgeon actions and love them. There both on the same level but i just like the surgeon better

The Surgeon XL is a tank. very nice but little heavy for hunting rifle but i still drag it around