I'm looking at getting one of these guns for a coyote run and gun rifle.
Any thoughts or opinions?
Any thoughts or opinions?
Benneli mr1!
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Why, in the wide world of 5.56/.223 semi-autos, would you really even consider one (or the bastardized Beretta equivalent) unless you are: a) that shot in the @$$ over all things Benelli shotgun in terms of their operation/ergos/looks/etc.; and/or b) you just do NOT want an AR (piston or DI) for any number of different reasons?
You are shooting yourself in the proverbial foot in terms of reliance on proprietary Benelli/Beretta parts/accessories, more or less a complete lack of aftermarket support/service/etc. opting for the MR-1. Furthermore, the pricing on these has always been...well...high especially when compared to other 5.56/.223 carbines on the market. Lastly, didn't Benelli d/c this model recently? If not, I stand corrected, but IIRC, the Beretta version is all that's left of this venture by them into the AR-esque, civy home defense carbine world.
Now, with all that said, the couple I have actually seen/used were extremely reliable and shot to approx. bargain-basement/budget AR-15 levels of accuracy (1.5-2MOA) with your average surplus/ball fodder and only slightly better with decent match fodder. They were also pretty smooth in terms of their operation. If you like the weird ergos (especially the stock setup and the position on the rifle it puts you in, along with the strange control layout, in particular the mag release which is about as counter-intuitive/out of position as can be), you don't plan on doing anything to it aside from perhaps mounting an optic, and it otherwise meets your personal requirements/budget...have at it. Not sure why in the hell anyone, other than perhaps folks in NY these days, would give these the time of day, but to each their own I suppose.
You are shooting yourself in the proverbial foot in terms of reliance on proprietary Benelli/Beretta parts/accessories, more or less a complete lack of aftermarket support/service/etc. opting for the MR-1. Furthermore, the pricing on these has always been...well...high especially when compared to other 5.56/.223 carbines on the market. Lastly, didn't Benelli d/c this model recently? If not, I stand corrected, but IIRC, the Beretta version is all that's left of this venture by them into the AR-esque, civy home defense carbine world.
Now, with all that said, the couple I have actually seen/used were extremely reliable and shot to approx. bargain-basement/budget AR-15 levels of accuracy (1.5-2MOA) with your average surplus/ball fodder and only slightly better with decent match fodder. They were also pretty smooth in terms of their operation. If you like the weird ergos (especially the stock setup and the position on the rifle it puts you in, along with the strange control layout, in particular the mag release which is about as counter-intuitive/out of position as can be), you don't plan on doing anything to it aside from perhaps mounting an optic, and it otherwise meets your personal requirements/budget...have at it. Not sure why in the hell anyone, other than perhaps folks in NY these days, would give these the time of day, but to each their own I suppose.
Wow! That was quite the response. Lol.
I should've added that I live and hunt in ontario Canada and AR rifles are restricted therefor I cannot hunt with it or I would own one. TRUST ME.
So having said that. Tho only other options are the BAR or the Remington semi's. neither catch my fancy. So this is the alternative.
Now do you think the mr1 is a good choice as I want a semi for quick shooting and medium ranges. 100-200 yards.
Thanks.
I should've added that I live and hunt in ontario Canada and AR rifles are restricted therefor I cannot hunt with it or I would own one. TRUST ME.
So having said that. Tho only other options are the BAR or the Remington semi's. neither catch my fancy. So this is the alternative.
Now do you think the mr1 is a good choice as I want a semi for quick shooting and medium ranges. 100-200 yards.
Thanks.
Gotcha...I figured it was due to your location and not being able to really get an AR or at least get one without massive headaches.
The Remington semi-autos, aside from their R-15 AR-based rifles which are rebranded DPMS rifles through and through, are pretty miserable in terms of both value for the money and accuracy. The Remington 750s are pretty miserable examples of semi-auto rifle workmanship in every respect.
The BARs can be truly excellent rifles in every respect, but like many things, how good depends on when (and where) it was made (i.e. - what generation rifle it is, whether Type 1, Type 2 or the newer...last 20yrs...Mark II), if used, how its been treated, etc., and if you are willing to "tweak" things to get the most out of it, including reloading (don't know if that's a legal option for you in Ontario or not), a trigger job to lighten/smooth up what, in some models, could be called a pretty poor trigger, etc., etc.
If those were my ONLY choices, I'd likely opt for the Browning in whatever caliber most suits your particular needs in terms of game you'll be hunting/ranges you'll need to reach/etc. as they are VASTLY better rifles than the overpriced MR-1. Again though...if the MR-1 strikes your fancy that much and your options are so limited that you don't want to consider the BAR, then I suppose you are stuck with the Benelli (not knowing what other semis might be legally available to you in your AO). I personally don't care for them, but in terms of recommending them based on the reliability and performance I have observed from them myself, I don't have any hesitation in telling you that they'll go bang when you pull the trigger and, if you are a reasonable shooter with a semi-auto centerfire rifle and use decent quality ammunition, you have a pretty reasonable opportunity to hit what you are aiming at within the 200yd MAX range you have established for the rifle.
I was looking at the bar white gold medalion in 243 but can't find one. Other then that I don't care for the bar's that much. Therefor my only choice really is the mr1. Plus I like the tactical aspect of it. Price wise I guess, you get what you pay for. It would double as home defense along side my 870. Plus as a camp gun for intruders and vermin(coyotes, wolves, coons, etc).
I have a tikka model 595 in 22-250. But I want a semi for follow up shots and multiple targets quickly.
I have a tikka model 595 in 22-250. But I want a semi for follow up shots and multiple targets quickly.
ORD is correct about the BAR rifle it is a very accurate and reliable rifle. Many people don't like the looks but that said I almost bought one a couple of years ago, I have shot the BAR on a few occassions and it was a very good rifle and you can get 20 round magazines for it. Only reason I didn't buy one was because I wanted to buy the best so I got a JP LRP-07 and never looked back.
Thanks but I'm not looking for a bulpup gun and I can't use a calibre bigger than a .243/6mm. And AR platforms are restricted for hunting. That's y I'm asking for opinions about the MR1. It is legal and seems like a good yote gun.
So any comments about that gun would be appreciated.
Thanks Archer.
So any comments about that gun would be appreciated.
Thanks Archer.
FOR @#$% SAKE, ARCHER!!
You have obviously already made up your mind on the MR-1 despite being given a bunch of different info and asked multiple questions about "other" options that might otherwise be available to you which you have written off. Both Matt and I have said that the MR-1 is "ok" and will fill the void you have for it in terms of reliability and accuracy. What more, if anything, are you looking for? The interweb is filled with reviews of the MR-1 which are, by in large, pretty positive aside from the pitfalls I have already told you about above re: gawdawful ergos, a lack of aftermarket support, etc., etc. If you really want the rifle and you have already discounted all other options that may be available to you...just go buy the MR-1 and be done with it already. Every day you waste debating a decision you've already made is a day you don't get to shoot your new MR-1!!!
You have obviously already made up your mind on the MR-1 despite being given a bunch of different info and asked multiple questions about "other" options that might otherwise be available to you which you have written off. Both Matt and I have said that the MR-1 is "ok" and will fill the void you have for it in terms of reliability and accuracy. What more, if anything, are you looking for? The interweb is filled with reviews of the MR-1 which are, by in large, pretty positive aside from the pitfalls I have already told you about above re: gawdawful ergos, a lack of aftermarket support, etc., etc. If you really want the rifle and you have already discounted all other options that may be available to you...just go buy the MR-1 and be done with it already.
Every day you waste debating a decision you've already made is a day you don't get to shoot your new MR-1!!! Hahaha. You are too right ord! Lol. Well put and note taken. I guess I just wanted a gentle nudge in the right direction. Thanks for that nudge.
You may wanna think about cutting back on the caffeine tho. You sound a little wound up.
Cheers.
You may wanna think about cutting back on the caffeine tho. You sound a little wound up.
Cheers.
HA!! I never touch the stuff, but thanks for the friendly advice. Joking never comes across easily from keyboard to forum post, but I hope you didn't take anything I said above too harshly as that's certainly not how it was intended.
Seriously...I was more or less poking a little fun at you but the best advice I can give you is to get your hands on an MR-1 (if you haven't already) and if you like the way it feels when you've got it shouldered up, drop the coin on it and be done. They are decent enough rifles for what they are and they are certainly utterly reliable and accurate enough for what they were built to do (including your intended purposes of HD/PD and yotes within 200yd).
Hang in there, brother. Good luck and God speed with your MR-1.
It's all good ord. I'm a certified sarcastic smartass. Don't worry. But remeber that when it comes back in your direction. Lol. But I thank you for the nudge forward.
I have held the gun in my hands and that's where the notion started. I am working on a deal with the local gun shop as we speak.
Where are you from?
I have held the gun in my hands and that's where the notion started. I am working on a deal with the local gun shop as we speak.
Where are you from?
Good deal. Glad you are getting it all sorted out.
As for me...born and bred right here in West-by-God Virginia, but I've lived and worked all over the place in the last 20yrs. Haven't been up into Ontario (or into Canada anywhere for that matter) in about 10-11yrs now.
When I can steal away the time to do any. Been pretty slim pickings the last few years with work, but more importantly, with family commitments.
Plenty of good hunting to be had around these parts and within a very short drive too. Were it not for neighbors up the road...there would have been a number of deer "thinned out" from the back deck within the last 1.5mos, but alas...not in the cards.
I hear ya. I have 4 boys am its hard to find the time. I got two nice bucks this year. But that was really it. Only got out three times.
