Bergara Issue that Frank Mentioned
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Quite a few years back I figured out how to keep things attached solidly. I started using high shear strength golf club epoxy to attach the mounts (in addition to the screws). The mounts will not shift. The mounts can be removed with a heat gun (a real heat gun, not a hair dryer) which will soften the epoxy. I lap the rings too just in case the receiver, mounts or rings aren't perfectly true.
I haven’t read through all the posts in the thread but I hosted one of the class that we had issues with one of the guns. We did have problems with the scope base which I have no idea if if was factory or not. We also have issues with the action screws coming loose. I cleaned them off and torqued them down and we didn’t have any problem after that.
I'm not saying that it doesn't,,,,
So why is it acceptable with one, but not the other?
Hi,
Because in one situation you are tightening things down onto a thin aluminum tube with moving parts inside it and other you are tightening down steel to steel.
Sincerely,
Theis
Because in one situation you are tightening things down onto a thin aluminum tube with moving parts inside it and other you are tightening down steel to steel.
Sincerely,
Theis
So why doesn't this seem to happen to people with 2-piece bases? In the olden days everyone used 2-piece bases on their hunting rifles. My Tac-Ops rifle came with a 2-piece base and I think most Tac-Ops rifles are 2-piece in Mike's chosen configuration. But that may have changed over the last few years.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
I use the Near manufacturing base and the Alpha scope mount.Hey guys. Frank mentioned an issue on the podcast with the Bergara rails coming loose. Anyone know specifics? Is it Bergara factory rails?
I am about to attend a two day class with my Bergara B14 HMR in 6.5 Creedmoor. It has an Area 419 rail. Wondering if I need to keep a close eye on it or if I should be good. And yes, I torqued it to specs and used blue locktite.
Thanks for any help.
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Considering the number of machine operators on their site, that's probably a safe bet. George and his smiths used to be top notch. EGW built a few guns for me back in the day.
Update:
I attended the two day class with Long Range Shooters of Utah. No issues with the gun. I was shooting one of the most budget setups in the class. I really didn't feel it held me back much but if I had more experience it would have felt differently.
Setup: Bergara B14 HMR in 6.5 Creedmoor. Arkin scope. Seekin's rings. Area 419 Break.
Happy to say at the end of class I hit the 1,000 Milk Jug Challenge cold bore, one shot. I was lucky to step up first and the light wind completely died for a minute when I shot. That was a big deal for me since I probably never shot over 300 yards before the class.
I will note that there was one other Bergara in the class. Same rifle but in .308. He had all kinds of accuracy issues. Pretty sure it was the gun because once they put him on a class loaner gun he hit the 1,000 milk jug in 3 shots.
I attended the two day class with Long Range Shooters of Utah. No issues with the gun. I was shooting one of the most budget setups in the class. I really didn't feel it held me back much but if I had more experience it would have felt differently.
Setup: Bergara B14 HMR in 6.5 Creedmoor. Arkin scope. Seekin's rings. Area 419 Break.
Happy to say at the end of class I hit the 1,000 Milk Jug Challenge cold bore, one shot. I was lucky to step up first and the light wind completely died for a minute when I shot. That was a big deal for me since I probably never shot over 300 yards before the class.
I will note that there was one other Bergara in the class. Same rifle but in .308. He had all kinds of accuracy issues. Pretty sure it was the gun because once they put him on a class loaner gun he hit the 1,000 milk jug in 3 shots.
I just traded for a new Bergara HMR 308. No rail, so I’m researching what to get. The manual didn’t state which screws the action is threaded for, so I called Bergara. No answer, vmail full, sent an email. Someone earlier in the thread says it’s #6.
I’ve read that with 308, a lug isn’t needed, while others suggest it as a good idea. The scope going on it it will either be a Meopta Optika 6 3-18x50 (29oz), or a Steiner P4xi 4-16x56 (30oz).
With so many good quality rails available lugged or not lugged, between $75-$110, why wouldn’t I get one with a recoil lug and drive on? Seekins, A419, etc.
In light of this thread, I elected to not order the Bergara branded rail from their webshop, lol.
I’ve read that with 308, a lug isn’t needed, while others suggest it as a good idea. The scope going on it it will either be a Meopta Optika 6 3-18x50 (29oz), or a Steiner P4xi 4-16x56 (30oz).
With so many good quality rails available lugged or not lugged, between $75-$110, why wouldn’t I get one with a recoil lug and drive on? Seekins, A419, etc.
In light of this thread, I elected to not order the Bergara branded rail from their webshop, lol.
There's no reason to get one without a lug.
Fwiw, the Area 419 rail is nice, and is a lug design.
B14's have a #6 screw, Premier actions use a #8.
EGW does do good machine work. But they also produce their parts to a budget. For the money, their rails (the two I have) are both very well made. But obviously, if you want/need a lug, you'll have to pay a bit more for that design with another mfg.
I also had a 1911 milled for target sights by them. Very well done, and pretty painless experience.
EGW does do good machine work. But they also produce their parts to a budget. For the money, their rails (the two I have) are both very well made. But obviously, if you want/need a lug, you'll have to pay a bit more for that design with another mfg.
I also had a 1911 milled for target sights by them. Very well done, and pretty painless experience.
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